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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 02:28 PM Oct 2015

Biden Nears Decision Time (By Wednesday)

Source: NBC News

Vice President Joe Biden is nearing a decision on if he will enter the presidential race, which could come within 48 hours, two sources tell NBC News.

Biden has been contemplating a presidential run for months and has delayed an announcement beyond supposed timeframes multiple times before. Missing this deadline, of course, could happen again.

In addition to when, the big unknown is what Biden's decision will be: Is he in our is he out?

Biden's public schedule gives little indication of his decision. He traveled from his home in Delaware to Washington Monday morning where he will address a climate change summit this afternoon.

Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/biden-nears-decision-time-n447051

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Biden Nears Decision Time (By Wednesday) (Original Post) onehandle Oct 2015 OP
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #1
Most likely because they are the ones who will benefit the most from his candidacy. Those still_one Oct 2015 #5
Here's hoping he gets in. Plucketeer Oct 2015 #2
I hope you have a better reason than that. Just as Biden is not going to get any Bernie supporters still_one Oct 2015 #8
I think Joe's entry Plucketeer Oct 2015 #13
So it is strategic. Thanks for explaining. I don't agree with your assessment, but that's cool still_one Oct 2015 #14
I have to agree Hepburn Oct 2015 #16
I do too. The lies about Hilary are vicious, but they cannot be defended against. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #17
The Pres. Libraries usually start out being run by the govt, NARA, the National Archives and appalachiablue Oct 2015 #25
This is my recurring nightmare - that Rubio will take it <shiver> n/t moonscape Oct 2015 #21
Only possible explanation mainstreetonce Oct 2015 #3
most probably still_one Oct 2015 #4
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #7
Because it is the only thing our stupid media wants to talk about still_one Oct 2015 #9
I don't think he has a prayer but our personality-challenged field could use him BeyondGeography Oct 2015 #6
Boy do I disagree with your personality assessment. I do agree though he probably doesn't still_one Oct 2015 #10
Bernie sure is charming the under-thirty group. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #19
he actually has a decent resume 6chars Oct 2015 #26
So he announces he is not running the day before she testifies before the idiots in Congress??? winstars Oct 2015 #11
From what I have read the media is camping out by his house in Delaware LynneSin Oct 2015 #12
Geez, I remember that Lynne! PatSeg Oct 2015 #22
Is that 48 business hours or...? randome Oct 2015 #15
maybe it's 48 hours in "football time" LiberalElite Oct 2015 #23
For his own sake, I hope that he doesn't decide to run. Beacool Oct 2015 #18
Hillary, very unfortunately, will be the nominee. Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2015 #20
Right, you care about him for "his own sake." Lychee2 Oct 2015 #28
Listen, newbie, don't pressume to know my mind. Beacool Oct 2015 #30
I feel like the longer he strings this along the less appeal he will have to voters. YOHABLO Oct 2015 #24
My gut feeling is Biden is the 3rd way plan B. Kalidurga Oct 2015 #27
Of course. But you are in the wrong place to "talk about the issues." Lychee2 Oct 2015 #29
Yes I have seen it over and over Kalidurga Oct 2015 #32
you've been here a little more than 5 weeks and you know so much about us? CreekDog Oct 2015 #33
That's all it takes. Lychee2 Oct 2015 #35
Responding to you is not stalking CreekDog Oct 2015 #38
I guess he feels a sense of responsibility Babel_17 Oct 2015 #31
Joe Biden in the race is like having two Hillarys and I am referring to the conservative Todays_Illusion Oct 2015 #34
only difference I have heard he has with Hillary is he is more willing to work with Republicans yurbud Oct 2015 #36
as the corporate trolls would say, >YAWN!< yurbud Oct 2015 #37

Response to onehandle (Original post)

still_one

(92,176 posts)
5. Most likely because they are the ones who will benefit the most from his candidacy. Those
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 02:58 PM
Oct 2015

who will be paid employees on his campaign staff.

If he runs, he won't make it either. Bernie supporters will not change, and 95% or greater of the Hillary supporters are not going to change their support to him either.

As I said the only thing his candidacy will to is keep his key people on the payroll a little longer.





still_one

(92,176 posts)
8. I hope you have a better reason than that. Just as Biden is not going to get any Bernie supporters
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 03:02 PM
Oct 2015

to vote for him in the primaries, Biden will also not get any Hillary supporters to change either.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
13. I think Joe's entry
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 03:46 PM
Oct 2015

would be all about saving the election from a Hillary disaster. There'd be mayhem between them while Bernie's crew would be left alone - to win.

Hepburn

(21,054 posts)
16. I have to agree
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 04:08 PM
Oct 2015

People literally hate Hillary. I do believe if she is the nominee, we will lose the WH.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
17. I do too. The lies about Hilary are vicious, but they cannot be defended against.
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 04:17 PM
Oct 2015

And she has a real problem about the arms sales approvals and the correlating donations from the countries that received the arms and donations to the Clinton Foundation and the Clinton Library.

http://www.salon.com/2015/05/31/the_cash_donations_hillary_simply_has_no_answer_for_partner/

And while we are on the topic of presidential libraries, why aren't they mostly funded by the taxpayers? They are for our benefit, for the benefit of our country and they are for our children. Why don't we fund them -- all of them -- for all presidents?

Why do our presidents have to go begging to rich people all over the world for money for their presidential libraries?

appalachiablue

(41,131 posts)
25. The Pres. Libraries usually start out being run by the govt, NARA, the National Archives and
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 09:59 PM
Oct 2015

Records Admin. mainly because that federal agency collects presidential materials from the WH and elsewhere to be taken into US govt. possession when there is an outgoing president and/or change of administrations. In time the records and materials are turned over to private foundations and other entities. It varies with presidents and the era. I don't know the current policy.
When there in the 90s I saw some cool stuff at the Nixon Annex in Alex., VA. like the Watergate tapes and foreign gifts to the Nixons. Otherwise I had little direct contact with that division. Although one day I had to provide an unexpected two-hour tour and visit to an officer of the new Reagan Library who just arrived from CA and wanted to learn everything about the vast institution.
The director in charge of that function was no where in sight so I did it. The Reagan Library officer was a pleasant and curious man most interested in the DC main bldg. operations, especially Public Programs. Things went well.

Response to mainstreetonce (Reply #3)

BeyondGeography

(39,370 posts)
6. I don't think he has a prayer but our personality-challenged field could use him
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 02:58 PM
Oct 2015

It's hard to come up with two less charming people than Hillary and Bernie. Between the two of them they can barely warm a seat.

still_one

(92,176 posts)
10. Boy do I disagree with your personality assessment. I do agree though he probably doesn't
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 03:06 PM
Oct 2015

stand a chance

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
19. Bernie sure is charming the under-thirty group.
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 04:37 PM
Oct 2015

Bernie's personality is winning because he is so honest.

Biden???? Not much personality there at all.

Hillary -- harsh and arrogant.

But then look at the Republican field. They are far worse.

Carly Fiorina? Trump? Jeb Bush?

What a bunch of losers.

Bernie is the best. He is honest and bold.

6chars

(3,967 posts)
26. he actually has a decent resume
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 10:18 PM
Oct 2015

6 terms in senate, two terms as vp, name recognition, positives. i wouldn't bet on him, but i've learned crazy things can happen - and there are a lot crazier things than someone with this background pulling one out. or if not, he would probably still be good for the other candidates to raise their game as long as he doesn't go negative (which i think he wouldn't).

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
12. From what I have read the media is camping out by his house in Delaware
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 03:35 PM
Oct 2015

and there seems to be Helicopters flying overhead in Wilmington all the time (I live like 3-4 miles from his Wilmington house).

It was like that right before he was picked as Obama's VP. So something is up.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
15. Is that 48 business hours or...?
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 04:00 PM
Oct 2015


I hope he doesn't run. We don't need to compete with the GOP in the drama department.
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Beacool

(30,247 posts)
18. For his own sake, I hope that he doesn't decide to run.
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 04:26 PM
Oct 2015

The good will that people feel for him now over the loss of his son will evaporate the minute he declares his candidacy. He'll be just one more candidate to be torn to shreds by the media and the Republicans. Biden will be 74 years old by election day, he's been in public office since he was 28. He had a good run and should retire on a high note.

As for his chances at the nomination, I don't see that happening. Hillary will still be the most likely person to win the nomination, if not her then it'll be Sanders. Biden's last two attempts at the presidency ended up poorly.

 

Lychee2

(405 posts)
28. Right, you care about him for "his own sake."
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 02:27 PM
Oct 2015

BS. You want him out of the race for Hillary's sake, and, residually, you hope, your own sake.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
30. Listen, newbie, don't pressume to know my mind.
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 03:15 PM
Oct 2015

You don't know me. I think that Biden is a decent man, but if he runs, he will lose once again. Most likely to Hillary, if not to her, then to Bernie.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
27. My gut feeling is Biden is the 3rd way plan B.
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 10:48 PM
Oct 2015

Something is up. I don't know what. I have been blindsided by too many things that were never on my radar to begin with. I don't keep up with the latest scandals at all, that kind of thing usually has my eyes glazing over. I want to know about the issues and that is about all I want to know.

 

Lychee2

(405 posts)
29. Of course. But you are in the wrong place to "talk about the issues."
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 02:31 PM
Oct 2015

That doesn't get done here. DU posters do three things only: (1) cheer their candidates, (2) jeer at anyone who opposes them, and (3) suppress any information or opinion that they dislike or disagree with.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
32. Yes I have seen it over and over
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 05:54 PM
Oct 2015

I hope when the dust settles people can start talking about issues again instead of being cheerleaders. And I should have said it before. I hope Biden is not plan B. I don't like what that implies.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
33. you've been here a little more than 5 weeks and you know so much about us?
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 11:14 PM
Oct 2015

wow. you learn fast or something.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
38. Responding to you is not stalking
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 09:51 PM
Oct 2015

In fact you've responded to me and I didn't call those responses stalking.

Also, after one month here, you said this about me:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1232544

Even though I hadn't posted much between then and the time you joined. What's the deal?

Are you holding me to a standard you don't personally follow?

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
31. I guess he feels a sense of responsibility
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 04:44 PM
Oct 2015

I think he'll speak in broad terms of what our party stands for, and what the Obama administration has accomplished.

That might bear repeating. The other candidates are perhaps cautious in fully embracing all of the legacy of the Obama administration. But what would Biden have to lose by doing so? In fact, he has something to gain by touting President Obama's record. His friend, President Obama, sure won't mind, and it could help our party as a whole to have Vice President Biden frame the accomplishments of the last two terms in a sunny manner.

And of course there are large strongholds of voters that will welcome such a message.

I see Biden as running confidently, and with a measured pace, on the outside. Should the front runners stumble ...

Todays_Illusion

(1,209 posts)
34. Joe Biden in the race is like having two Hillarys and I am referring to the conservative
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 01:37 AM
Oct 2015

attack machine as well as his political ideas, history.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
36. only difference I have heard he has with Hillary is he is more willing to work with Republicans
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 11:23 AM
Oct 2015

Which means if true and it came down to him and Hillary, I'd pick Hillary.

However, I don't know that that difference in style will result in any substantive differences in policy.

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