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Faygo Kid

(21,478 posts)
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 12:24 PM Oct 2015

Ben Carson Once Again Compares Something To Slavery, This Time Abortion

Source: Huffington Post

Dr. Ben Carson, the neurosurgeon-turned-insurgent presidential contender, compared abortion to slavery on Sunday, adding that he does not support exceptions for rape and incest when it comes to outlawing the practice.

"Think about this," he told "Meet the Press." "During slavery -- and I know that's one of those words you're not supposed to say, but I'm saying it -- during slavery, a lot of the slave owners thought that they had the right to do whatever they wanted to that slave. Anything that they chose to do. And, you know, what if the abolitionist had said, you know, 'I don't believe in slavery. I think it's wrong. But you guys do whatever you want to do'? Where would we be?"

Rising in the polls in Iowa -- with its deeply evangelical Republican caucus goers -- Carson called for overturning the Supreme Court’s Roe v. Wade decision and only conceded that "there's room to discuss" an exception if the health of the mother was at stake. Below is the relevant transcript, pasted in full because his answers were often hard to tease out. . .

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ben-carson-slavery-abortion_562cd4c6e4b0443bb564356b



He's nuts. I respect his accomplishments, but go back to surgery. If you didn't see this today, read it at the link.

He's nuts.
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Ben Carson Once Again Compares Something To Slavery, This Time Abortion (Original Post) Faygo Kid Oct 2015 OP
"You know what was like slavery? Slavery." shenmue Oct 2015 #1
Perhaps his religious beliefs have something to do with his opinion on this matter: olegramps Oct 2015 #35
Never forget — Ben Carson is a wacko! immoderate Oct 2015 #2
That statement by Carson makes absolutely no sense whatever. shraby Oct 2015 #3
Let me get this straight . . . Jack Rabbit Oct 2015 #4
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #11
Fetal rights over women's rights? uppityperson Oct 2015 #13
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #15
Please clarify what you mean mcar Oct 2015 #14
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #16
Aw,dang. I missed the reply. They'll be back though, looking through first posts, thanks mirt uppityperson Oct 2015 #18
And missed all the excitement Jack Rabbit Oct 2015 #24
you have that absolutely correct. yet, the woman-hating gestational slavers have absolutely no niyad Oct 2015 #36
I think he's not smart enough to come up with these all by himself … NurseJackie Oct 2015 #5
Sounds like a Planter forcing births. Downwinder Oct 2015 #6
"Think about this, "During slavery, a lot of the slave owners thought that they had the right to... BlueJazz Oct 2015 #7
it's easy, BlueJazz Skittles Oct 2015 #28
I don't understand it, when talking about Carson the talking heads say nice things hollysmom Oct 2015 #8
He is absolutely nuts, Blue_In_AK Oct 2015 #9
Carson is an idiot Gothmog Oct 2015 #10
I don't know what he is nxylas Oct 2015 #39
Yup, he's a brain surgeon, and apparently a good one NonMetro Oct 2015 #42
That's a good analogy nxylas Oct 2015 #43
I am waiting uawchild Oct 2015 #12
Ugh. moondust Oct 2015 #17
What the fuck happened to the Republican party since 2011? BlueStater Oct 2015 #19
the stupidity of repuke voters goes back WAY before 2011 Skittles Oct 2015 #29
"Rocks and Bricks and Baseball bats," and of course I went after someone with a knife once! Evergreen Emerald Oct 2015 #20
I respect President Obama's accomplishments, but I wouldn't trust him to operate on my brain. Why Attorney in Texas Oct 2015 #21
We have a family friend who is an anesthesiologist. He works with plenty of surgeons. CTyankee Oct 2015 #34
My husband used to work at University of MD hospital LibertyLover Oct 2015 #38
Carson is the "I can't say s%#t like that b'cause I'm white" candidate Freelancer Oct 2015 #22
Slavery was the ultimate form of controlling another's body daleo Oct 2015 #23
Let's interpret this jmowreader Oct 2015 #25
Forced pregnancy is far more comparable to slavery Betty Oct 2015 #26
Pretty sickening how these republican clowns elmac Oct 2015 #27
This is absolutely boilerplate anti-choice rhetoric MsJaneFuzzyWuzzy Oct 2015 #30
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #33
This nut will get the fundy vote but that is all... HeartlandDem Oct 2015 #31
Definitely nuts. Several macadamias short of a Deluxe Mix. Or as hubby said... Hekate Oct 2015 #32
apart from being a woman-hating asshole, he is a young earth creationist. that SHOULD have niyad Oct 2015 #37
Because aborted fetuses are being used as slaves = Ben Carson Reasoning. Dont call me Shirley Oct 2015 #40
You know who else was SDA, Benny? awoke_in_2003 Oct 2015 #41

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
35. Perhaps his religious beliefs have something to do with his opinion on this matter:
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 11:15 AM
Oct 2015

A basic tenant of the Seven Day Adventists church is that women must be subservient to their husbands. Therefore Carson when he can condone refusing a women the choice to choose to have an abortion it can be seen as consistent with his religious principles. However, I would also like to point out that this is actually not in agreement with the church's teachings which allow for exceptions if the women's life are threatened, rape, incest and fetal malformation.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
4. Let me get this straight . . .
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 12:35 PM
Oct 2015

A male is telling females what they can and can't do with themselves, and seeks the power to sign federal legislation into law that will codify such restrictions. Then he compares a woman's freedom to decide such matters for herself to slavery.

What was the motto of the state in 1984?

Response to Jack Rabbit (Reply #4)

Response to uppityperson (Reply #13)

Response to mcar (Reply #14)

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
24. And missed all the excitement
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 05:14 PM
Oct 2015

Did some misogynist take a wrong turn on his way to a right wing website?

niyad

(113,081 posts)
36. you have that absolutely correct. yet, the woman-hating gestational slavers have absolutely no
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 12:01 PM
Oct 2015

problem with this. women, after all, are not human beings, merely vessels.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
5. I think he's not smart enough to come up with these all by himself …
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 01:04 PM
Oct 2015

… instead, I believe he's got a dedicated team of writers whose job it is to come up with off-the-wall, absurd, and offensive things to say. These things are intended to generate interest and headlines.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
7. "Think about this, "During slavery, a lot of the slave owners thought that they had the right to...
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 01:20 PM
Oct 2015

do whatever they wanted to that slave. Anything that they chose to do."

STOP RIGHT THERE BRANIAC

Question: What-the-Hell-are-You-Talking-about??

You come up with these disjointed so-call "Cool comparisons" and Nobody knows what/who or when you're spouting off about.

Christ man..get a clue about life and ideas...PLEASE!

Skittles

(153,122 posts)
28. it's easy, BlueJazz
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:51 PM
Oct 2015

men telling slaves what to do is the same as men telling women what to do...........oops, er........oh wait

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
8. I don't understand it, when talking about Carson the talking heads say nice things
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 01:34 PM
Oct 2015

about him as if he were a reasonable choice and then say that Trump is nuts. Yes he is, and I don't want either of them to get anywhere in politics, but of the two - Carson is by far the nuttiest. And dangerous with his religious zeal and complete lack of knowledge of the constitution or how the government works - did I hear him say his book was on the constitution? the constitution as told to god, maybe?

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
9. He is absolutely nuts,
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 01:47 PM
Oct 2015

and I am at a loss to explain why my great niece and my husband's cousin - who are otherwise wonderful people - think he's the answer to everything. I won't block them off my FB feed, but I can't believe all the pro-Carson stuff they post. It's inexplicable.

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
39. I don't know what he is
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 02:11 PM
Oct 2015

I know people make jokes about him being a brain surgeon, but...he's a brain surgeon! He clearly has intelligence, but there's something sort of "off" about him. I wonder if he has some sort of autistic spectrum disorder, though I hasten to add that I have no standing to make such a diagnosis, and I don't wish to cause offence to people with autism, or to those who know them.

NonMetro

(631 posts)
42. Yup, he's a brain surgeon, and apparently a good one
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 07:34 PM
Oct 2015

But his personality and political views have nothing to do with that. He's like a concert pianist who gets naked and runs down the street warning everyone about aliens from outer space. Still a great piano player, just kind of odd.

moondust

(19,963 posts)
17. Ugh.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 02:48 PM
Oct 2015

Somebody needs to educate Ben that what he's advocating is slavery for women: dictatorial MEN like himself denying women the freedom to control their own lives and futures.

He's definitely nuts.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
19. What the fuck happened to the Republican party since 2011?
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 03:17 PM
Oct 2015

How can Trump and Carson get away with saying all these moronic, batshit crazy things? These two bozos should be the fringe candidates with no prayer of winning, not the frontrunners. Republican voters must have all underwent lobotomies in the last four years. That's the only explanation I can come up with for whatever the hell is happening right now.

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
21. I respect President Obama's accomplishments, but I wouldn't trust him to operate on my brain. Why
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 03:32 PM
Oct 2015

would anyone trust a brain surgeon to run the country?

Hell, I wouldn't even trust a brain surgeon to fix my broken laptop because excellence in one field does not imply excellence in all fields. Why does ANYONE think Carson could or should run the county?

CTyankee

(63,893 posts)
34. We have a family friend who is an anesthesiologist. He works with plenty of surgeons.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 10:18 AM
Oct 2015

I would like to ask him what he thinks of Carson and if brain surgeons tend to be a little on the weird side. I know him well enough that he would give me his honest opinion.

LibertyLover

(4,788 posts)
38. My husband used to work at University of MD hospital
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 01:30 PM
Oct 2015

and knew Carson. My husband doesn't care for Carson at all and says he has an ego the size of a McMansion and was pretty nasty to staff.

Freelancer

(2,107 posts)
22. Carson is the "I can't say s%#t like that b'cause I'm white" candidate
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 04:36 PM
Oct 2015

All I hear Carson saying is the same kind of lame crap that my uncle won't say in public because he's white and knows it won't fly. That explains the right wing's infatuation with him, I suppose. Carson's lack of cogent ideas is shielded by his black exterior. In a strange way, I guess this is racial progress. Carson proves that anyone can be a right wing ignoramus now.

daleo

(21,317 posts)
23. Slavery was the ultimate form of controlling another's body
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 05:11 PM
Oct 2015

Forcing women to bear children against their will has some similarities with that.

jmowreader

(50,530 posts)
25. Let's interpret this
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 05:22 PM
Oct 2015

Because abortion is so bad we can get away with comparing it to chattel slavery, we should enslave millions of pregnant women who either don't want to be pregnant, had pregnancy forced upon them, or shouldn't be pregnant in the first place.

Ben Carson has three sons. If he had three daughters and one of them got pregnant through a rape, what would he do?

 

MsJaneFuzzyWuzzy

(58 posts)
30. This is absolutely boilerplate anti-choice rhetoric
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 11:00 PM
Oct 2015

and I am quite surprised at the number of people who seem unfamiliar with it!

Of course, it's usually spouted by people whose ancestors were never enslaved. To get a descendant of enslaved persons to put it out there - they must be beside themselves with the thrill.

It is part of the litany that includes the assertion that the only difference between a fetus and a human being is "location location location".

That difference is then, of course, dismissed as inconsequential. Inside a woman's body, inside a Toyota Corolla, it's all the same thing.

And, of course, the next thing we can expect from him (if it hasn't come already; I haven't kept careful track) is the tale about how Planned Parenthood is in the business of genocide, targetting African-Americans for extinction by abortion ...

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HeartlandDem

(80 posts)
31. This nut will get the fundy vote but that is all...
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 11:13 PM
Oct 2015

when he hits the national scene he will be seen for the nut job he is... epic fail. Just unnerves me that there are actually people who think he could handle the presidency. It would be flip side of the Taliban coin.

Hekate

(90,564 posts)
32. Definitely nuts. Several macadamias short of a Deluxe Mix. Or as hubby said...
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 05:26 AM
Oct 2015

....after he got his jaw off the floor from listening to this: "He's dangerous."

niyad

(113,081 posts)
37. apart from being a woman-hating asshole, he is a young earth creationist. that SHOULD have
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 12:05 PM
Oct 2015

automatically disqualified him from ever opening his mouth about anything. but then, we still have the tundra grifter spewing on the national stage, and she is also a young earth creationist.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
40. Because aborted fetuses are being used as slaves = Ben Carson Reasoning.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 03:15 PM
Oct 2015

I see plenty of cars who sport both fundie-mega-church stickers and Carson stickers.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
41. You know who else was SDA, Benny?
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 10:11 AM
Oct 2015

David Koresh. That makes more sense than the babble you're spouting.

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