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Sun Oct 25, 2015, 12:24 PM

Ben Carson Once Again Compares Something To Slavery, This Time Abortion

Source: Huffington Post

Dr. Ben Carson, the neurosurgeon-turned-insurgent presidential contender, compared abortion to slavery on Sunday, adding that he does not support exceptions for rape and incest when it comes to outlawing the practice.

"Think about this," he told "Meet the Press." "During slavery -- and I know that's one of those words you're not supposed to say, but I'm saying it -- during slavery, a lot of the slave owners thought that they had the right to do whatever they wanted to that slave. Anything that they chose to do. And, you know, what if the abolitionist had said, you know, 'I don't believe in slavery. I think it's wrong. But you guys do whatever you want to do'? Where would we be?"

Rising in the polls in Iowa -- with its deeply evangelical Republican caucus goers -- Carson called for overturning the Supreme Court’s Roe v. Wade decision and only conceded that "there's room to discuss" an exception if the health of the mother was at stake. Below is the relevant transcript, pasted in full because his answers were often hard to tease out. . .

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ben-carson-slavery-abortion_562cd4c6e4b0443bb564356b



He's nuts. I respect his accomplishments, but go back to surgery. If you didn't see this today, read it at the link.

He's nuts.

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Reply Ben Carson Once Again Compares Something To Slavery, This Time Abortion (Original post)
Faygo Kid Oct 2015 OP
shenmue Oct 2015 #1
olegramps Oct 2015 #35
immoderate Oct 2015 #2
shraby Oct 2015 #3
Jack Rabbit Oct 2015 #4
Name removed Oct 2015 #11
uppityperson Oct 2015 #13
Name removed Oct 2015 #15
mcar Oct 2015 #14
Name removed Oct 2015 #16
uppityperson Oct 2015 #18
Jack Rabbit Oct 2015 #24
niyad Oct 2015 #36
NurseJackie Oct 2015 #5
Downwinder Oct 2015 #6
BlueJazz Oct 2015 #7
Skittles Oct 2015 #28
hollysmom Oct 2015 #8
Blue_In_AK Oct 2015 #9
Gothmog Oct 2015 #10
nxylas Oct 2015 #39
NonMetro Oct 2015 #42
nxylas Oct 2015 #43
uawchild Oct 2015 #12
moondust Oct 2015 #17
BlueStater Oct 2015 #19
Skittles Oct 2015 #29
Evergreen Emerald Oct 2015 #20
Attorney in Texas Oct 2015 #21
CTyankee Oct 2015 #34
LibertyLover Oct 2015 #38
Freelancer Oct 2015 #22
daleo Oct 2015 #23
jmowreader Oct 2015 #25
Betty Oct 2015 #26
elmac Oct 2015 #27
MsJaneFuzzyWuzzy Oct 2015 #30
Name removed Oct 2015 #33
HeartlandDem Oct 2015 #31
Hekate Oct 2015 #32
niyad Oct 2015 #37
Dont call me Shirley Oct 2015 #40
awoke_in_2003 Oct 2015 #41

Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)

Sun Oct 25, 2015, 12:27 PM

1. "You know what was like slavery? Slavery."

- Stephanie Miller

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Response to shenmue (Reply #1)

Mon Oct 26, 2015, 11:15 AM

35. Perhaps his religious beliefs have something to do with his opinion on this matter:

A basic tenant of the Seven Day Adventists church is that women must be subservient to their husbands. Therefore Carson when he can condone refusing a women the choice to choose to have an abortion it can be seen as consistent with his religious principles. However, I would also like to point out that this is actually not in agreement with the church's teachings which allow for exceptions if the women's life are threatened, rape, incest and fetal malformation.

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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)

Sun Oct 25, 2015, 12:29 PM

2. Never forget — Ben Carson is a wacko!

 



--imm

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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)

Sun Oct 25, 2015, 12:34 PM

3. That statement by Carson makes absolutely no sense whatever.

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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)

Sun Oct 25, 2015, 12:35 PM

4. Let me get this straight . . .

A male is telling females what they can and can't do with themselves, and seeks the power to sign federal legislation into law that will codify such restrictions. Then he compares a woman's freedom to decide such matters for herself to slavery.

What was the motto of the state in 1984?

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Response to Name removed (Reply #11)

Sun Oct 25, 2015, 02:26 PM

13. Fetal rights over women's rights?

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Response to Name removed (Reply #11)

Sun Oct 25, 2015, 02:26 PM

14. Please clarify what you mean

Thanks.

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Response to mcar (Reply #14)

Sun Oct 25, 2015, 03:14 PM

18. Aw,dang. I missed the reply. They'll be back though, looking through first posts, thanks mirt

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #18)

Sun Oct 25, 2015, 05:14 PM

24. And missed all the excitement

Did some misogynist take a wrong turn on his way to a right wing website?

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Response to Jack Rabbit (Reply #4)

Mon Oct 26, 2015, 12:01 PM

36. you have that absolutely correct. yet, the woman-hating gestational slavers have absolutely no

problem with this. women, after all, are not human beings, merely vessels.

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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)

Sun Oct 25, 2015, 01:04 PM

5. I think he's not smart enough to come up with these all by himself …

… instead, I believe he's got a dedicated team of writers whose job it is to come up with off-the-wall, absurd, and offensive things to say. These things are intended to generate interest and headlines.

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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)

Sun Oct 25, 2015, 01:06 PM

6. Sounds like a Planter forcing births.

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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)

Sun Oct 25, 2015, 01:20 PM

7. "Think about this, "During slavery, a lot of the slave owners thought that they had the right to...

 

do whatever they wanted to that slave. Anything that they chose to do."

STOP RIGHT THERE BRANIAC

Question: What-the-Hell-are-You-Talking-about??

You come up with these disjointed so-call "Cool comparisons" and Nobody knows what/who or when you're spouting off about.

Christ man..get a clue about life and ideas...PLEASE!

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Response to BlueJazz (Reply #7)

Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:51 PM

28. it's easy, BlueJazz

men telling slaves what to do is the same as men telling women what to do...........oops, er........oh wait

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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)

Sun Oct 25, 2015, 01:34 PM

8. I don't understand it, when talking about Carson the talking heads say nice things

about him as if he were a reasonable choice and then say that Trump is nuts. Yes he is, and I don't want either of them to get anywhere in politics, but of the two - Carson is by far the nuttiest. And dangerous with his religious zeal and complete lack of knowledge of the constitution or how the government works - did I hear him say his book was on the constitution? the constitution as told to god, maybe?

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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)

Sun Oct 25, 2015, 01:47 PM

9. He is absolutely nuts,

and I am at a loss to explain why my great niece and my husband's cousin - who are otherwise wonderful people - think he's the answer to everything. I won't block them off my FB feed, but I can't believe all the pro-Carson stuff they post. It's inexplicable.

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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)

Sun Oct 25, 2015, 02:15 PM

10. Carson is an idiot

The man is truly stupid

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #10)

Mon Oct 26, 2015, 02:11 PM

39. I don't know what he is

I know people make jokes about him being a brain surgeon, but...he's a brain surgeon! He clearly has intelligence, but there's something sort of "off" about him. I wonder if he has some sort of autistic spectrum disorder, though I hasten to add that I have no standing to make such a diagnosis, and I don't wish to cause offence to people with autism, or to those who know them.

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Response to nxylas (Reply #39)

Tue Oct 27, 2015, 07:34 PM

42. Yup, he's a brain surgeon, and apparently a good one

But his personality and political views have nothing to do with that. He's like a concert pianist who gets naked and runs down the street warning everyone about aliens from outer space. Still a great piano player, just kind of odd.

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Response to NonMetro (Reply #42)

Wed Oct 28, 2015, 06:36 AM

43. That's a good analogy

The David Helfgott (sp?) of the Republican Party.

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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)

Sun Oct 25, 2015, 02:17 PM

12. I am waiting

for Carson to get all meta on us and actually compare Slavery to Slavery.

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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)

Sun Oct 25, 2015, 02:48 PM

17. Ugh.

Somebody needs to educate Ben that what he's advocating is slavery for women: dictatorial MEN like himself denying women the freedom to control their own lives and futures.

He's definitely nuts.

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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)

Sun Oct 25, 2015, 03:17 PM

19. What the fuck happened to the Republican party since 2011?

How can Trump and Carson get away with saying all these moronic, batshit crazy things? These two bozos should be the fringe candidates with no prayer of winning, not the frontrunners. Republican voters must have all underwent lobotomies in the last four years. That's the only explanation I can come up with for whatever the hell is happening right now.

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Response to BlueStater (Reply #19)

Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:52 PM

29. the stupidity of repuke voters goes back WAY before 2011

remember Dubya?

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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)

Sun Oct 25, 2015, 03:21 PM

20. "Rocks and Bricks and Baseball bats," and of course I went after someone with a knife once!

Yikes!

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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)

Sun Oct 25, 2015, 03:32 PM

21. I respect President Obama's accomplishments, but I wouldn't trust him to operate on my brain. Why

would anyone trust a brain surgeon to run the country?

Hell, I wouldn't even trust a brain surgeon to fix my broken laptop because excellence in one field does not imply excellence in all fields. Why does ANYONE think Carson could or should run the county?

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Response to Attorney in Texas (Reply #21)

Mon Oct 26, 2015, 10:18 AM

34. We have a family friend who is an anesthesiologist. He works with plenty of surgeons.

I would like to ask him what he thinks of Carson and if brain surgeons tend to be a little on the weird side. I know him well enough that he would give me his honest opinion.

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #34)

Mon Oct 26, 2015, 01:30 PM

38. My husband used to work at University of MD hospital

and knew Carson. My husband doesn't care for Carson at all and says he has an ego the size of a McMansion and was pretty nasty to staff.

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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)

Sun Oct 25, 2015, 04:36 PM

22. Carson is the "I can't say s%#t like that b'cause I'm white" candidate

All I hear Carson saying is the same kind of lame crap that my uncle won't say in public because he's white and knows it won't fly. That explains the right wing's infatuation with him, I suppose. Carson's lack of cogent ideas is shielded by his black exterior. In a strange way, I guess this is racial progress. Carson proves that anyone can be a right wing ignoramus now.

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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)

Sun Oct 25, 2015, 05:11 PM

23. Slavery was the ultimate form of controlling another's body

Forcing women to bear children against their will has some similarities with that.

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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)

Sun Oct 25, 2015, 05:22 PM

25. Let's interpret this

Because abortion is so bad we can get away with comparing it to chattel slavery, we should enslave millions of pregnant women who either don't want to be pregnant, had pregnancy forced upon them, or shouldn't be pregnant in the first place.

Ben Carson has three sons. If he had three daughters and one of them got pregnant through a rape, what would he do?

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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)

Sun Oct 25, 2015, 05:29 PM

26. Forced pregnancy is far more comparable to slavery

If you'd think about it for one second, Carson.

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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)

Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:24 PM

27. Pretty sickening how these republican clowns

 

suck up to the whackjob Christian Taliban.

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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)

Sun Oct 25, 2015, 11:00 PM

30. This is absolutely boilerplate anti-choice rhetoric

 

and I am quite surprised at the number of people who seem unfamiliar with it!

Of course, it's usually spouted by people whose ancestors were never enslaved. To get a descendant of enslaved persons to put it out there - they must be beside themselves with the thrill.

It is part of the litany that includes the assertion that the only difference between a fetus and a human being is "location location location".

That difference is then, of course, dismissed as inconsequential. Inside a woman's body, inside a Toyota Corolla, it's all the same thing.

And, of course, the next thing we can expect from him (if it hasn't come already; I haven't kept careful track) is the tale about how Planned Parenthood is in the business of genocide, targetting African-Americans for extinction by abortion ...

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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)

Sun Oct 25, 2015, 11:13 PM

31. This nut will get the fundy vote but that is all...

when he hits the national scene he will be seen for the nut job he is... epic fail. Just unnerves me that there are actually people who think he could handle the presidency. It would be flip side of the Taliban coin.

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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)

Mon Oct 26, 2015, 05:26 AM

32. Definitely nuts. Several macadamias short of a Deluxe Mix. Or as hubby said...

....after he got his jaw off the floor from listening to this: "He's dangerous."

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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)

Mon Oct 26, 2015, 12:05 PM

37. apart from being a woman-hating asshole, he is a young earth creationist. that SHOULD have

automatically disqualified him from ever opening his mouth about anything. but then, we still have the tundra grifter spewing on the national stage, and she is also a young earth creationist.

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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)

Mon Oct 26, 2015, 03:15 PM

40. Because aborted fetuses are being used as slaves = Ben Carson Reasoning.

I see plenty of cars who sport both fundie-mega-church stickers and Carson stickers.

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Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)

Tue Oct 27, 2015, 10:11 AM

41. You know who else was SDA, Benny?

 

David Koresh. That makes more sense than the babble you're spouting.

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