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still_one

(92,061 posts)
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 11:51 AM Oct 2015

Iranian Poets To Be Whipped And Jailed For Shaking Hands With Members Of Opposite Sex

Source: Associated Press

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Two Iranian poets jailed for their work and sentenced to 99 lashes apiece for shaking hands with members of the opposite sex are the latest targets in a crackdown that analysts say pits hard-liners against those offering new glimpses of life in the Islamic Republic.

The sentences follow a pattern of arrests and convictions targeting activists, journalists and artists that has served as a grim backdrop to President Hassan Rouhani's efforts to soften the country's image and improve relations with the West, including through the landmark nuclear agreement reached last summer.

Hard-liners in the police, judiciary and military view any rapprochement with the West as a threat to the Islamic Republic and a sign of moral decay. Rights groups and analysts say those targeted in the ongoing crackdown on expression in Iran also serve as pawns in the hard-liners' struggle with moderates ahead of February's parliamentary elections.

"I think people thought with the nuclear deal, there would be sort of a bit of a thaw as well or a bit of an opening up," said Karin Deutsch Karlekar, the director of Free Expression Programs at PEN America, an organization promoting literature and freedom of speech. "I think the judiciary is sort of pushing back and trying to make clear that there isn't going to be that opening people were hoping for."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/iranian-poets-to-be-whipped-for-shaking-hands-with-members-of-opposite-sex_5630c74de4b00aa54a4bf004


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Iranian Poets To Be Whipped And Jailed For Shaking Hands With Members Of Opposite Sex (Original Post) still_one Oct 2015 OP
These are the people we think are going to be honest. 7962 Oct 2015 #1
No. If we thought they'd be honest, there wouldnt be any need for inspections geek tragedy Oct 2015 #3
You dont understand, Obama might get some credit for this, WE CANT HAVE THAT randys1 Oct 2015 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author randys1 Oct 2015 #5
Obama doesnt care if they are honest, right? He secretely wants Iran to fucking NUKE randys1 Oct 2015 #6
LOL, yup that must be it, because we all know that if it wasn't because of the Iranian deal, which still_one Oct 2015 #10
All or nothing plus this fact: Teaparty has visceral, actual physical reaction, negatively randys1 Oct 2015 #11
you are correct still_one Oct 2015 #12
hey, I hope you're right. Like I said, we'll see. 7962 Oct 2015 #16
And what was the alternative? still_one Oct 2015 #20
Keep sanctions in place until it can be verified that the nuke program has been stopped. 7962 Oct 2015 #22
You accidentally misplaced a homonym. In your title line you wrote "no" instead of "know." StevieM Oct 2015 #17
Thanks. still_one Oct 2015 #19
Boy, you certainly arent any good at reading minds, thats for sure. 7962 Oct 2015 #15
More magic boss based lunacy MowCowWhoHow III Oct 2015 #2
The Younger Generation Needs To Get Rid OF These Mullahs Somehow. TheMastersNemesis Oct 2015 #4
Religion poisons everything. MynameisBlarney Oct 2015 #8
Thank you! SoapBox Oct 2015 #9
You are most welcome! MynameisBlarney Oct 2015 #13
The religion of peace really keeps on giving patsimp Oct 2015 #14
Islamic theocracy strikes again! romanic Oct 2015 #18
The silver lining is no American Apparel billboards there. closeupready Oct 2015 #21
Or personal injury lawyers! 7962 Oct 2015 #23
Of course!! See? A place RICH with hidden upsides! closeupready Oct 2015 #24
This is as bad as our ally Saudi Arabia daleo Oct 2015 #25
 

7962

(11,841 posts)
1. These are the people we think are going to be honest.
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 11:54 AM
Oct 2015

We'll see in short order how true it is or isnt.

Response to 7962 (Reply #1)

randys1

(16,286 posts)
6. Obama doesnt care if they are honest, right? He secretely wants Iran to fucking NUKE
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 11:59 AM
Oct 2015

Israel and parts of the US

The thousands of EXPERTS who helped him and the many countries that signed on ALL Want that

they must, right?

I mean they must all be stupid when it comes to trusting Iran, right

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still_one

(92,061 posts)
10. LOL, yup that must be it, because we all know that if it wasn't because of the Iranian deal, which
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 12:22 PM
Oct 2015

Last edited Wed Oct 28, 2015, 04:55 PM - Edit history (1)

require international inspections for the next decade plus, Iran would have immediately stopped their military nuKlear development immediately. Darn that agreement. (oh by the way, I am being sarcastic)

This is the same nonsense that those against the deal argued about. It doesn't address all the middle east problems, therefore the deal is no good. Except the flaw with that logic is that the Iran deal was to address ONE SPECIFIC ISSUE, and that is stopping nuclear weapon proliferation by Iran, and that by itself is not a bad thing.

This ALL OR NOTHING PRINCIPLE, that so many extreme right wingers seem to express, has historically been shown to be a failure. It got us into Viet Nam to stop the "spread of communism", was a large part for our disastrous policy in South America in the 60's, 70's and 80's, prompted our invasion of Iraq, based on a lie, and quite a few other misadventures throughout history.

You have to start someone where. Gunboat diplomacy usually doesn't work

randys1

(16,286 posts)
11. All or nothing plus this fact: Teaparty has visceral, actual physical reaction, negatively
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 12:24 PM
Oct 2015

when they just hear Obama's name.

They hate him as if he was the devil times 300.

That he was reelected, well that simply sent them permanently into total insanity and it will continue if Hillary is the nominee

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
16. hey, I hope you're right. Like I said, we'll see.
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 03:40 PM
Oct 2015

Its as simple as that.
They've never kept any other deal they signed, so I'm just going on history. Of course they may be different this time. We'll see in a couple years.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
22. Keep sanctions in place until it can be verified that the nuke program has been stopped.
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 05:35 PM
Oct 2015

And allow inspections at all facilities where nuclear work had been going on. with NO notice. They've been lying the whole time; saying they had no nuclear weapons program. Saying it was for electricity. But refusing Russia's offer to supply nuclear fuel and remove nuclear waste. I see no reason to immediately reward them before they actually DO anything. Certainly if they really stop their program, by all means lift the sanctions. But we'll soon see what the first things they buy will be now that sanctions arent a problem. I'm betting its not going to be airliner parts.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
17. You accidentally misplaced a homonym. In your title line you wrote "no" instead of "know."
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 04:08 PM
Oct 2015

Last edited Wed Oct 28, 2015, 05:06 PM - Edit history (1)

Just giving you a heads up in case you wanted to edit your post for clarity sake.

 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
4. The Younger Generation Needs To Get Rid OF These Mullahs Somehow.
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 11:56 AM
Oct 2015

These radical Moslems do not deserve to remain on this planet.

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