Bill Clinton Rallies Superdelegates as Hillary's Campaign Hints at Growing Roster

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Source: Bloomberg.com




Bill Clinton Rallies Superdelegates as Hillary's Campaign Hints at Growing Roster
The Democratic front-runner's campaign says it has now secured the commitment of over 500 superdelegates.

October 28, 2015 — 3:12 PM CDT


Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton has extended her already sizable superdelegate lead by several dozen since August, and is deploying former President Bill Clinton to bring more of the powerful endorsers on board.

Based on a memo from campaign manager Robby Mook and delegate figures provided by the Democratic National Committee, Bloomberg Politics estimates Hillary Clinton has well over 500 superdelegate commitments, putting her even closer to securing the minimum number needed to win the party's nomination before ordinary voters cast a single ballot in a caucus or primary.

“Today, Hillary has more support from superdelegates than all the pledged delegates awarded in Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, South Carolina, and a third of delegates awarded on Super Tuesday combined,” Mook said in the memo, which was sent to supporters on Tuesday and obtained by Bloomberg. (Politico reported on the memo earlier Wednesday.)

In late August, Democratic sources told Bloomberg Politics that she had won private and public commitments from more than 440 super delegates....................

Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-10-28/bill-clinton-rallies-superdelegates-as-hillary-s-campaign-hints-at-growing-roster

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‘I’m tu Hillary’: Clinton at the Latinos for Hillary grassroots event in San Antonio, Texas. Photograph: Erich Schlegel/Getty Images

[Gothmog]

1. Hillary will do very well among the super delegates

Hillary will have a decent lead before Iowa and New Hampshire

[postulater]

2. Why should I vote then?

[murielm99]

17. Is this the new way of saying that

if Bernie is not the nominee, I will not vote?

This is childish. It is also why I am sure that many of the people who have come here recently are not Democrats. They are here only to disrupt and cast doubt. Not voting is the same as voting for a Republican.

[postulater]

29. No.

Superdelegates are part of the party's nomination process. They are not involved in the general election. My issue is that our primary process seems broken. Superdelegate's votes seem to count more than mine since my state is very late in the nations primary process.

Regardless of who I vote for in the primary, it may make no difference in the nomination process. That seems wrong. It doesn't seem like democracy.

[Codeine]

36. Now this I agree with.

It burns me that my state - which is a state that actually fucking matters - is an afterthought in the primary process.

[joshcryer]

35. Delegates vote on the platform.

Their views literally shape the platform at the Democratic National Convention. You should always vote for your preferred candidate so that their delegates are at the Convention and can shape the platform.

[blackspade]

3. Superdelegates are a symptom of our party's broken primary system.

That a candidate could secure the nomination based on them alone is a travesty.

[frylock]

8. All those Superdelegates will amount to jack shit in the GE..

She may win the primary with them, but at the risk of disenfranchising an entire generation of new voters.

[Renew Deal]

14. I agree that they don't matter

Because no one cares about that. The only way it's an issue is if one candidate wins the elected delegates and another wins the super delegates. But I don't expect that to happen. In 2008, many flipped to support Obama.

[Gman]

18. They don't vote anyway

Fortunately. So who cares?

[frylock]

21. Like they didn't vote in 2008?

We know you don't care.

[Beacool]

27. No, she will win the nomination because she will have garnered more votes,

and therefore, more pledged delegates. It won't be like 2008 when neither Obama nor Hillary had enough pledged delegates to win the nomination outright and the votes of the super delegates mattered.

[Renew Deal]

13. It is not possible to secure the nomination based on them alone.

They are around 15% of the delegates. But dominating with them helps.

4007 Delegates
713 Super Delegates
4720 Total

*2361 needed to win

[blackspade]

30. Thanks for the info!

Last edited Wed Oct 28, 2015, 08:37 PM - Edit history (1)

The article makes it sound like you can win only with them.

Specifically this:

Hillary Clinton has well over 500 superdelegate commitments, putting her even closer to securing the minimum number needed to win the party's nomination before ordinary voters cast a single ballot in a caucus or primary.

[ToxMarz]

32. Yes re-read and I it must be deliberately misleading

With those numbers there is no reason to word it that way, unless you want to cause some discord with that whole 'coronation' suggestion.

[Freddie Stubbs]

41. Superdelegates only make up about 1/5 of the delegates

So a candidate cannot secure the nomination based on them alone.

[blackspade]

42. I was already corrected, thanks.

[bkkyosemite]

4. I really think Bill getting upset in 2008 that she did not win

he has made sure this time she will win no matter what. Some have said the fix is in. I tend to think so. If the Superdelegates make the choice and not the people then this system is corrupt. The popular vote also is a must but that is ignored. People should always win by voters not a rigged system.

[frylock]

6. Superdelegates making the choice will show an entire generation of new voters..

that the system is fucked. Look for the lowest voter turnout in Presidential election history.

[bkkyosemite]

9. I can agree with that. No Bernie then no voting. Fed up they will be.

[restorefreedom]

26. plus a freakin buttload. nt

[Tarheel_Dem]

5. K&R

[Mark Grable]

23. Who is your fourth choice?

Jeb, or Bernie?

BTW, that's a badass mule!

[Tarheel_Dem]

28. Welcome Back!

[marble falls]

34. I think you're on to something. Oh mirt ........

[Tarheel_Dem]

39. I think so too.

[redwitch]

7. So why should anyone bother to vote? nt

[frylock]

11. Why indeed?

[Gman]

19. A vote for Sanders is in vain anyway.

You should stay home.

[redwitch]

20. Yeah, not gonna happen.

I always vote.

[LanternWaste]

38. I like to pretend that voting one's convictions is in vain, too...

I like to pretend that voting one's convictions is in vain, too... as it allows a much more convenient justification when we slowly embrace the cowardice of inaction and suggesting others staying home.

[Renew Deal]

10. Does that mean that the election is pretty much already over?

As far as I can tell there are 4720 total delegates. If Hillary has 500+ locked up, she already has 10% of the vote locked up. Sanders would need to win the rest of the superdelegates and win every state with a 10 point margin. Neither of those things are going to happen.

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/D-Alloc.phtml

[oberliner]

15. Superdelegates can change their mind

If Bernie starts winning primary after primary, they can switch over to him if they want to.

[Renew Deal]

16. I agree

That happened with Obama in 2008. But Hillary didn't have nearly as many pledged in 2008.

[bkkyosemite]

12. She used her husband to get what she wanted...a team effort.

I believe if she already won you will see a firestorm of voters for Bernie letting the establishment know that this system is pathetic and unfair. Voters should decide both the primary and the GE.

[Mark Grable]

22. Typical

Hillary vs. Jeb.

May be.

Maybe not. SD's could change their vote. In the next 3 months, Bernie could convince a majority of Democratic Primary Voters to vote for his policies.

Bernie vs. Jeb?

Bernie vs. the Donald?

Might be something to think about, because while lots of reasonable Vermont Republicans have voted repeatedly for Bernie, for 20 years, no Republicans anywhere will vote for Hillary anyhow.

Young peoples votes count, and since they will be dealing with the results of this, they are willing to listen to someone new. Check his record, check his funding, and don't be discouraged by schlock. Not all politics is slimy, just most of it.

[OakCliffDem]

24. So our nominee is going to be selected by a few insider elites?

Why do we even have primaries?

It looks like the Democratic National Committee is simply telling us who we are going to vote for.

[restorefreedom]

25. the superdelegates are no more important than anyone else

no matter what the campaign says about having them in the pocket or in the bag or whatever term they want to use. If the supers even dream of stealing the nomination and giving it to Hillary if Bernie ends up with the votes, you'll basically see a third-party born right there at the convention.it's hype designed to discourage people from voting against the "inevitable."

don't fall for it.

[AzDar]

31. Give uuuup. Goooo home. Hillary has already woooon.

Sorry, no.

[CountAllVotes]

33. Good for you Bill Clinton

You had my vote!

[DCBob]

37. This is a bit misleading.. she can't win with just superdelegates.

I dont think it matters anyway... she will win enough with just the popular vote easily.

[William769]

40. Go Bill Go!

[kjackson227]

43. Not so fast, don't believe the hype...

She and her camp also "CLAIMED" that she had the delegates just about wrapped up in 2008, and we know how that turned out. #feelthebern!

[restorefreedom]

44. supers are virtually meaningless

this is another mind trick to discourage people from voting by trying to convince them that candidate inevitable has the nomination all wrapped up. Don't fall for it. If the supers even attempt a coup and try to take the nomination away from Bernie if he ends up with the regular delegate votes, you will watch the party implode in real time during the convention.

Clinton will not get the votes of regular voters, the numbers are against her, the trends are against her, and the millennial's are going for Bernie in huge numbers, as well as people who have never voted before. Hillary will not be the nominee unless she tries to steal the nomination through the superdelegates, and that will not be allowed to happen. It's also just another symptom of our perverted, corrupt, and broken political system. more slimy Clintonian tactics to discourage real people from voting and choosing their leaders because if people come out and vote, she is toast just like in 08. it's a discouragement tactic. Don't fall for it.