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Judi Lynn

(160,408 posts)
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 06:00 PM Oct 2015

Feds: 3 arrested for selling fake American Indian jewelry

Source: Associated Press

October 29, 2015

Feds: 3 arrested for selling fake American Indian jewelry

By RUSSELL CONTRERAS
Associated Press

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. —

Federal authorities have announced three New Mexico residents have been indicted in a scam to sell Filipino-made jewelry as American Indian made.

U.S. Attorney Damon Martinez said Thursday the three individuals were recently arrested following a long investigation and a raid of jewelry stores in Albuquerque, Gallup, New Mexico, and Calistoga, California.

According to the indictment unsealed Thursday, 51-year-old Nael Ali, 53-year-old Mohammad Abed Manasra, and 41-year-old Christina Bowen are facing charges of violating the federal Indian Arts and Crafts Act. Court documents say Ali owned two jewelry stores in Albuquerque's Old Town.

. . .

Martinez says Filipino authorities also conducted interviews at two factories in the Philippines.

Read more: http://www.modbee.com/news/state/article41796039.html#storylink=cpy

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Feds: 3 arrested for selling fake American Indian jewelry (Original Post) Judi Lynn Oct 2015 OP
I never knew there was an Indian Arts and Crafts Act.... IcyPeas Oct 2015 #1
There is and it's a good idea. Warpy Oct 2015 #3
Yes, and premium price =quality and authenticity leftofcool Oct 2015 #10
Best to buy at the pueblos. Dont call me Shirley Oct 2015 #2
I bought some jewelry from some Indians who had spread out a blanket of jewelry Art_from_Ark Oct 2015 #4
Thank you for supporting the good cause. Dont call me Shirley Oct 2015 #24
I had a nice chat with them Art_from_Ark Nov 2015 #29
I agree Skittles Nov 2015 #30
Best to buy at www.wingssilverworks.com Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #26
Beautiful work! Thanks for the link, Erich! Dont call me Shirley Nov 2015 #32
Thank you! Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2015 #33
We might have committed a genocide of over 50 million indigenous people, but by golly, jtuck004 Oct 2015 #5
Actually no. leftofcool Oct 2015 #9
White folks murder tens of millions of people and then suddenly are all about their welfare. Uh-huh. jtuck004 Oct 2015 #12
I am very comfortable with Native Americans leftofcool Oct 2015 #16
Many people are more comfortable than those living on the POW camps we call "reservations" n/t jtuck004 Oct 2015 #17
Wow, POW camps? So they can't leave and are surrounded by fences and guards? EX500rider Oct 2015 #19
"White folks murder tens of millions of people" EX500rider Oct 2015 #18
suddenly? you mean like, over the course of 100 years or so? mopinko Nov 2015 #34
So they leave them in prisoner of war camps, but pass a bill that makes sure the stuff jtuck004 Nov 2015 #35
that is a ridiculous statement. pow camps? mopinko Nov 2015 #36
Your just wrong. denbot Oct 2015 #20
There are always people who think it is more important to save the Master's house than jtuck004 Oct 2015 #21
You correct in that it doesn't change a thing, which is you're still wrong. denbot Oct 2015 #22
Lol. See as little as you want. It's simpler that way, I'll give you that. n/t jtuck004 Oct 2015 #23
You've devolved into the position that anyone disagreeing with your allegation are... LanternWaste Nov 2015 #38
Beautiful artwork, denbot! Dont call me Shirley Oct 2015 #25
Your work is positively gorgeous! leftofcool Oct 2015 #27
Gorgeous works. On a trip to the Grand Canyon a few years back, closeupready Oct 2015 #28
Bravo to your post romanic Nov 2015 #31
Your allegation strikes me as a most accurate example of the fallacy LanternWaste Nov 2015 #37
Good! 2naSalit Oct 2015 #6
Got a hunch this just the tip Wellstone ruled Oct 2015 #7
As long as they are not selling it as NA made, it is legal leftofcool Oct 2015 #8
There are so many Flea Markets out there. Wellstone ruled Oct 2015 #13
Good for you. leftofcool Oct 2015 #15
well, this is the first bust I have ever heard of Kali Oct 2015 #11
Just came back from visiting, and shopping, in Albuquerque's Old Town. Not the shops, directly from FailureToCommunicate Oct 2015 #14

IcyPeas

(21,829 posts)
1. I never knew there was an Indian Arts and Crafts Act....
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 06:44 PM
Oct 2015
The Indian Arts and Crafts Act of 1990

The Indian Arts and Crafts Act of 1990 (P.L. 101-644) is a truth-in-advertising law that prohibits misrepresentation in marketing of Indian arts and crafts products within the United States. It is illegal to offer or display for sale, or sell any art or craft product in a manner that falsely suggests it is Indian produced, an Indian product, or the product of a particular Indian or Indian Tribe or Indian arts and crafts organization, resident within the United States. For a first time violation of the Act, an individual can face civil or criminal penalties up to a $250,000 fine or a 5-year prison term, or both. If a business violates the Act, it can face civil penalties or can be prosecuted and fined up to $1,000,000.

Under the Act, an Indian is defined as a member of any federally or officially State recognized Indian Tribe, or an individual certified as an Indian artisan by an Indian Tribe.

The law covers all Indian and Indian-style traditional and contemporary arts and crafts produced after 1935. The Act broadly applies to the marketing of arts and crafts by any person in the United States. Some traditional items frequently copied by non-Indians include Indian-style jewelry, pottery, baskets, carved stone fetishes, woven rugs, kachina dolls, and clothing.

All products must be marketed truthfully regarding the Indian heritage and tribal affiliation of the producers, so as not to mislead the consumer. It is illegal to market an art or craft item using the name of a tribe if a member, or certified Indian artisan, of that tribe did not actually create the art or craft item.


https://iacb.doi.gov/act.html

Warpy

(111,106 posts)
3. There is and it's a good idea.
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 06:57 PM
Oct 2015

Truth in labeling slowed the flow of cheap knockoffs from Asia. While there is nothing wrong with cheap knockoffs from Asia, the Act just makes sure they're labeled so you know what you're getting and don't overpay.

One of a kind items from local tribal craftspeople command a premium price. These shopkeepers were ripping people off.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
4. I bought some jewelry from some Indians who had spread out a blanket of jewelry
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 07:21 PM
Oct 2015

in front of the Palace of the Governors. That was back in 1985.



Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
29. I had a nice chat with them
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 02:21 AM
Nov 2015

It was fascinating to talk to them. I hope to go back to the Santa Fe/Taos area again some day, it was a wonderful experience.

Skittles

(153,100 posts)
30. I agree
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 05:35 AM
Nov 2015

when I was in New Mexico I was more fascinated by the native Americans than I was by the tourist sites......LOVED talking to them.....heh, they said they noticed me too, because I did not have a camera

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
26. Best to buy at www.wingssilverworks.com
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 11:35 AM
Oct 2015

But then I'm biased, because I think Ajijaakwe and Wings are wonderful people in addition to being strong Native American advocates and talented artists.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
33. Thank you!
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 05:04 PM
Nov 2015

Hope you find something or somethings you like enough to buy

They're overly kind to a fault, and are constantly taking up damaged strays to heal, which takes money they don't have to spend. They've got a horse that just came to them a few days ago, that was injured and is going to need a lot of work, and they're not sure if she'll even make it or not, while at the same time they're trying to crowdsource building themselves a house (they lost their last one to a bank 5 years ago) when the tourist trade declined precipitously down by the pueblos.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
5. We might have committed a genocide of over 50 million indigenous people, but by golly,
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 07:21 PM
Oct 2015

we will then bring the power of the government established on top of those bones to bear and prevent anyone from selling fake turquoise.

It strikes me that this was more to prevent white folks from losing money than to protect any crafter. But that's just me.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
9. Actually no.
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 08:18 PM
Oct 2015

The Act is to prevent people from claiming something is Native American made when it isn't thereby taking resources away from legitimate NA products.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
12. White folks murder tens of millions of people and then suddenly are all about their welfare. Uh-huh.
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 09:07 PM
Oct 2015

Hey, if you are comfortable with that one, go for it. My standards are different, I suspect.

EX500rider

(10,782 posts)
19. Wow, POW camps? So they can't leave and are surrounded by fences and guards?
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 12:17 AM
Oct 2015

That's horrible if it was true which it isn't.

EX500rider

(10,782 posts)
18. "White folks murder tens of millions of people"
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 12:15 AM
Oct 2015

OMG, who did that , we should put them in jail!!! Or do you mean people long dead did something bad?

The people who did that (and the vast majority of Native Americans died of European diseases they had no immunity to)
aren't "suddenly" doing anything but pushing up posies.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
35. So they leave them in prisoner of war camps, but pass a bill that makes sure the stuff
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 11:55 PM
Nov 2015

they buy from the craftsperson is genuine. so it doesn't screw up the tourist trade.

The compassion just oozes, you're right. Ought erect a fucking statue to those magnanimous genocidal ass clowns or something.tr

This argument sounds very much like one made by the "very passionate" people one of our presidential candidates thinks so much of.

You can discuss it with yourself now.

mopinko

(69,965 posts)
36. that is a ridiculous statement. pow camps?
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 12:58 PM
Nov 2015

i dont like what goes on on many reservations, but people are free to leave them. they arent prisons.

denbot

(9,897 posts)
20. Your just wrong.
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 01:23 AM
Oct 2015

Last edited Fri Oct 30, 2015, 01:58 AM - Edit history (1)

I've made and sold Native American silver and turquoise jewelry in California, and New Mexico. The Federal Indian Arts and Crafts Act is a vital tool in protecting Indigenous Artists from unscrupulous dealers preying on both NA jewelry consumers, and the Artists who struggle to represent their Nations, preserve their cultures, and feed their families.

In Gallup one of the sleaziest shops used to be the Ortega's chain. Some, but not all were owned by some middle eastern dude who's name escaped me, but he would salt his collection with mostly Philippine made crap. He would often send NA made pieces from his shop to the Philippines to be copied, mass produced, then sent back to be sold as NA made.

After being repeatedly caught, he would then have components made over seas (again mostly the Philippines, but also Thailand), then sent back to Gallup, where he put together "jobber" shops, which hired some NA for sub minimum wages to assemble enough pieces to "hide" fully foreign made pieces of the same design. I don't know if he is still doing it, but he was pretty active 10 years ago.


Here is some of my work from about ten years ago.

A ring made with turquoise from the Sleeping Beauty Mine (Kingman AZ)

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These two bracelets are made with turquoise from the Royston Mine (Tonapha NV)

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This bracelet was made with turquoise from the Morince Mine (Morince AZ)

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This one is made with Bisbee Blue Turquoise, from the Bisbee Mine (Bisbee AZ)

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You could not be more wrong about the law being there to mainly protect "White" customers!

denbot,
Chiricahua Apache Nation.

On Edit, I misidentified the turquoise as Kingman in my OP, then corrected it to Morince.


 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
21. There are always people who think it is more important to save the Master's house than
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 03:12 AM
Oct 2015

their own, or their neighbors. Their excuses never end, and the harm they enable is never their fault. They are sure.

NIce pics, nice work. Doesn't change a damn thing.

You take care.





denbot

(9,897 posts)
22. You correct in that it doesn't change a thing, which is you're still wrong.
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 04:30 AM
Oct 2015

The act is to protect Native Artists.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
38. You've devolved into the position that anyone disagreeing with your allegation are...
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 02:06 PM
Nov 2015

You've devolved into the position that anyone disagreeing with your allegation are simply enabling and condoning slavery.

And while I certainly empathize with both the ethical and rational short-cuts it may allow you, it hardly seems a reason to hold your positions in any valid format beyond bemused entertainment, regardless of the irrelevancy of whether someone is taking care or not...

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
27. Your work is positively gorgeous!
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 11:47 AM
Oct 2015

I hope you are still making lovelies! Some people will never understand how the NA arts and crafts act has helped so many to preserve their cultures.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
28. Gorgeous works. On a trip to the Grand Canyon a few years back,
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 11:58 AM
Oct 2015

I purchased a silver/turquoise keychain fob - for whatever reason, I just love it and I remember that trip every time I look at it - no kidding.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
37. Your allegation strikes me as a most accurate example of the fallacy
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 02:02 PM
Nov 2015

Your allegation strikes me as a most accurate example of the fallacy, post hoc ergo prompter hoc.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
7. Got a hunch this just the tip
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 07:32 PM
Oct 2015

of the Berg. Go to any so called Flea Market and you will find all kinds of knockoffs. Mexican and Phillppines as well China made crap complete will fake info as to source.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
8. As long as they are not selling it as NA made, it is legal
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 08:16 PM
Oct 2015

If they put a Native American tag on it, it better darn sure have a tribal ID and a number with it.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
13. There are so many Flea Markets out there.
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 10:07 PM
Oct 2015

Never really realize how much and how many counterfeits go through these things. The few we attended as a rule,did not have Native I.D.s. We do not waste our time anymore on these.

Kali

(54,999 posts)
11. well, this is the first bust I have ever heard of
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 08:35 PM
Oct 2015

Asians and Middle Easterners took over the trade a couple decades ago. about time somebody took a few of them to task.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,005 posts)
14. Just came back from visiting, and shopping, in Albuquerque's Old Town. Not the shops, directly from
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 10:09 PM
Oct 2015

the artists.

Gallery 8 and Gallery Azul were mentioned in the indictment.

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