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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 02:06 PM Oct 2015

US Officials: Troops To Only Fight ISIS, Russia Risks Fueling Syrian Quagmire

Source: Guardian UK

Secretary of State John Kerry said on Saturday American special operations troops being sent to Syria would only fight Islamic State militants and would not become involved in the country’s long-running civil war. As he did so, US-backed rebels attacked Isis in the north-east of the country.

Deputy secretary of state Antony Blinken, meanwhile, told a policy conference in Bahrain Moscow’s intervention in the Syrian conflict would have the unintended consequences of drawing Russia into a quagmire and alienating Sunni Muslims across the region.

Russia began airstrikes a month ago, changing the balance of forces in the war in favour of President Bashar al-Assad and against rebel groups that include both jihadists and non-militants backed by the West, Turkey and Gulf countries.

In Syria, a newly formed US-backed rebel alliance launched an offensive against Isis in the north-eastern province of Hasaka. It was the first declared operation by the Democratic Forces of Syria, which joins a US-backed Kurdish militia and several Syrian Arab rebel groups, since it announced its formation earlier this month.

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/31/john-kerry-us-troops-fight-isis-not-civil-war

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US Officials: Troops To Only Fight ISIS, Russia Risks Fueling Syrian Quagmire (Original Post) Purveyor Oct 2015 OP
Cluster enlightenment Oct 2015 #1
And they haven't even passed around the 'lube' yet. eom Purveyor Oct 2015 #2
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #4
Quagmire, meet quicksand. n/t dixiegrrrrl Oct 2015 #12
There will be some kind of confrontation with Russia doc03 Oct 2015 #3
Well, the US and NATO feel we have overwhelming conventional forces compared to Russia... uawchild Oct 2015 #6
I see, so only Russia will be in a "quagmire"? louis-t Oct 2015 #5
Here we go again. hobbit709 Oct 2015 #7
Rep. Gabbard says 'Stop CIA war against Syrian government' ! cprise Oct 2015 #8
Tulsi's position on this is exactly right. Francois9 Oct 2015 #9
Yes, and she seems to be calling out State Dept. as liars... cprise Oct 2015 #10
You can't defeat your enemy if you arming and helping him daleo Oct 2015 #13
...! KoKo Oct 2015 #17
Thank god there are some members sulphurdunn Oct 2015 #11
She knows exactly what's going on. polly7 Oct 2015 #14
Damn what an attractive and intelligent lady. Our answer to doc03 Oct 2015 #16
ISIS now claiming responsibility for OldHippieChick Oct 2015 #15
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #18
Clearly, the headline writer has no sense of irony. nt bemildred Nov 2015 #19

Response to enlightenment (Reply #1)

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
6. Well, the US and NATO feel we have overwhelming conventional forces compared to Russia...
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 02:50 PM
Oct 2015

As does Russia, apparently. Russia's "plan B" if it starts losing a conventional fight that they deem an existential threat is to use tactical nuclear weapons.

"Insight - Russia's nuclear strategy raises concerns in NATO
Concern is growing in NATO over Russia's nuclear strategy and indications that Russian military planners may be lowering the threshold for using nuclear weapons in any conflict, alliance diplomats say."
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/02/04/uk-ukraine-crisis-russia-nuclear-insight-idUKKBN0L825A20150204

Russia has more deployed tactical nuclear weapons than the US and NATO and see them as their ultimate deterrent against NATO's conventional weapons superiority.
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https://books.google.com/books?id=zd8cAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA158&lpg=PA158&dq=number+of+Russian+tactical+nuclear+weapons&source=bl&ots=moXKSmrLXy&sig=F__SkHgHcmspkAUh4gzCZnBZOoc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCgQ6AEwAzgeahUKEwjdl9D7r-3IAhXLox4KHfCUBbc#v=onepage&q=number%20of%20Russian%20tactical%20nuclear%20weapons&f=false

 

Francois9

(54 posts)
9. Tulsi's position on this is exactly right.
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 03:14 PM
Oct 2015

She expressed it with great clarity. And she handled Blitzer's tough question about Assad's alleged atrocities perfectly, by comparing them to Saddam's and Kadhafi's alleged atrocities, which were (a) probably exaggerated, and (b) not as bad as what happens when the US moves in with overwhelming firepower.

cprise

(8,445 posts)
10. Yes, and she seems to be calling out State Dept. as liars...
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 03:27 PM
Oct 2015

re: "not attacking Syrian government"

doc03

(35,325 posts)
16. Damn what an attractive and intelligent lady. Our answer to
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 06:55 PM
Oct 2015

Sara Palin. We don't have to worry we can trust old Puty Put.

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
15. ISIS now claiming responsibility for
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 04:27 PM
Oct 2015

downing the Russian jetliner. They have poked the bear. This could ensure the Russians go after ISIS better than anything we might do. Very stupid on the part of ISIS.

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