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Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:29 PM

Donald Trump Says Paris Attacks Would Have Been ‘Much Different’ If People Had Guns

Source: ABC News

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump said that the devastating attacks in France that killed at least 129 people would have turned out differently if people were armed.

"You can say what you want, but if they had guns -- if our people had guns, if they were allowed to carry -- it would have been a much, much different situation," he said to thunderous applause from the audience in Beaumont, Texas.

"When you look at Paris, you know, the toughest gun laws in the world, nobody had guns except for the bad guys, nobody," he said. "Nobody had guns, and they were just shooting them one by one."

Trump had a similar response to the January attack on the French satiric newspaper Charlie Hebdo, tweeting that the shooting took place in one of the toughest gun control countries.

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-paris-attacks-people-guns/story?id=35207857

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Reply Donald Trump Says Paris Attacks Would Have Been ‘Much Different’ If People Had Guns (Original post)
IDemo Nov 2015 OP
katmondoo Nov 2015 #1
yuiyoshida Nov 2015 #46
Helen Borg Nov 2015 #47
Ken Burch Nov 2015 #2
Skittles Nov 2015 #3
LuckyTheDog Nov 2015 #4
msongs Nov 2015 #5
allan01 Nov 2015 #6
Scarsdale Nov 2015 #42
sarge43 Nov 2015 #7
LiberalElite Nov 2015 #15
gvstn Nov 2015 #20
sarge43 Nov 2015 #23
gvstn Nov 2015 #36
underpants Nov 2015 #8
Quixote1818 Nov 2015 #9
elleng Nov 2015 #10
Marthe48 Nov 2015 #11
MisterP Nov 2015 #12
Grassy Knoll Nov 2015 #13
Native Nov 2015 #14
AngryOldDem Nov 2015 #58
pnwmom Nov 2015 #16
uppityperson Nov 2015 #17
NutmegYankee Nov 2015 #18
PersonNumber503602 Nov 2015 #22
PersonNumber503602 Nov 2015 #19
Gregorian Nov 2015 #21
tclambert Nov 2015 #31
BlueJazz Nov 2015 #34
kentauros Nov 2015 #37
BlueJazz Nov 2015 #48
kentauros Nov 2015 #61
humbled_opinion Nov 2015 #24
Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #25
Person 2713 Nov 2015 #26
sdfernando Nov 2015 #27
onehandle Nov 2015 #28
Glimmer of Hope Nov 2015 #29
tclambert Nov 2015 #30
houston16revival Nov 2015 #32
ustilago Nov 2015 #40
rockfordfile Nov 2015 #33
IrishEyes Nov 2015 #49
rpannier Nov 2015 #35
Judi Lynn Nov 2015 #38
Helen Borg Nov 2015 #39
davidthegnome Nov 2015 #41
SmittynMo Nov 2015 #43
heaven05 Nov 2015 #44
DinahMoeHum Nov 2015 #45
tabasco Nov 2015 #50
packman Nov 2015 #51
Skittles Nov 2015 #63
NonMetro Nov 2015 #52
tabasco Nov 2015 #53
NonMetro Nov 2015 #54
chelsea0011 Nov 2015 #55
Moral Compass Nov 2015 #56
MisterP Nov 2015 #60
AngryOldDem Nov 2015 #57
Kennah Nov 2015 #59
Martin Eden Nov 2015 #62
BeyondGeography Nov 2015 #64
restorefreedom Nov 2015 #65

Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:30 PM

1. I am so sick of hearing this crap

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Response to katmondoo (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 15, 2015, 10:47 AM

46. boy, I am with you there...

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Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #46)

Sun Nov 15, 2015, 10:59 AM

47. Damn

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:31 PM

2. Can somebody just remove that malignant growth from his head already?

 

And let's do something about his hair, too.

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:32 PM

3. gun humpers are unbelievably stupid

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:33 PM

4. Fuck you very much, Donald Trump.

Seriously. Fuck you.

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:33 PM

5. umm people did have guns. that's how they did the killing... gun owners nt

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:34 PM

6. i am so fucking sick of hearing this bull shit . UGH.

please tell me how this rational or the lack of it would work . you cant can you ?

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Response to allan01 (Reply #6)

Sun Nov 15, 2015, 09:17 AM

42. Audience

How many people in THAT audience had their guns with them? Want to bet they were told not to bring them into the venue? The Donald is bankrupt in many ways, other than financially on a regular basis. Bankrupt of any normal feelings.

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:35 PM

7. So says the combat veteran who has been in dozens of fire fights.

Asshole.

just in case.

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Response to sarge43 (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:54 PM

15. Yeah, lead us into battle O Great Brave One -

how's that bone spur doing?

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Response to sarge43 (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 14, 2015, 09:04 PM

20. I think the asshole comment should come after the sarcasm tag.

Relating that he is an asshole is not really sarcasm.

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Response to gvstn (Reply #20)

Sat Nov 14, 2015, 09:11 PM

23. Your wish is my command



Gaping asshole

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Response to sarge43 (Reply #23)

Sun Nov 15, 2015, 12:54 AM

36. Much better. Thank you!

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:36 PM

8. What "our people" were there?

He can barely form a sentence.

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:37 PM

9. Nah, the terrorists would just use more bombs instead of guns. nt

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:39 PM

10. Right, idiot, 300+ would have died!

OMG, I need a drink, and I rarely drink!

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:44 PM

11. More guns wouldn't help

even if the normal sane people who were there for the concert had guns, they were there for the concert. Not alert, not watching for crazy murderers with guns. That's why more guns are no solution. Normal people are trying to live normal lives. Even if a normal person had a gun <oxymoron>, he/she would be focused on doing a normal thing, not on guard. We can't live our lives on guard every second of every freaking day. Although that might be why we are all so screwed up all the time.

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:46 PM

12. man, even the gun nuts can't play that card any more after their own simulations

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:51 PM

13. Just Repeating Another Stupid Repubic Hair

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Imagine a theater with 10 or 15 citizens with concealed carry permits. We live in an age when evil men have to be killed by good people



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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:53 PM

14. The terrorists had AK47s at the concert...

that's not exactly something you'd carry with you to a concert in your purse.

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Response to Native (Reply #14)

Sun Nov 15, 2015, 04:30 PM

58. Well, hell, make those available, too!

Everybody should be packing a Kalishnikov!



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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:56 PM

16. Yeah, guns are so helpful against suicide bombers. n/t

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:58 PM

17. They would have exploded themselves sooner, before some people got out.

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sat Nov 14, 2015, 09:00 PM

18. I spent all day arguing on Facebook against this fuckwittery.

As if international terrorism has anything to do with civil laws on gun ownership...

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Response to NutmegYankee (Reply #18)

Sat Nov 14, 2015, 09:07 PM

22. That must be really hard to deal with that.

I used to do that with my family on facebook, but I realized it never really did any good. Even if I got them to admit they may not be logical, a few days later they'd be back to the same BS. Either that or they'll say I'm constantly trying to start fights them because of their opinion. Which is really odd to me. Why post a political statement if you don't want to discuss it? Anyway, good luck with your continuing efforts.

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sat Nov 14, 2015, 09:02 PM

19. Dear republicans, please STFU for a bit.

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sat Nov 14, 2015, 09:06 PM

21. But wait, if they had explosives, then everyone should have explosives, by that argument.

What a safe world that would be. Everyone would be so fucking scared they'd look like they were smiling all the time.

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Response to Gregorian (Reply #21)

Sat Nov 14, 2015, 10:47 PM

31. Clearly, for safety's sake, everyone should be required to carry nuclear weapons all the time.

What a peaceful world that would make, what with death being so peaceful and all.

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Response to tclambert (Reply #31)

Sun Nov 15, 2015, 12:08 AM

34. That cracked me up. I know it's not truly funny but the idea of carrying a hydrogen bomb around.

 

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Response to BlueJazz (Reply #34)

Sun Nov 15, 2015, 01:00 AM

37. Oh, you don't carry it.

You just ride it:





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Response to kentauros (Reply #37)

Sun Nov 15, 2015, 11:06 AM

48. Wonderful movie. Whole cast was great... especially Peter Sellers: Heil Hitler !!

 

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Response to BlueJazz (Reply #48)

Sun Nov 15, 2015, 05:56 PM

61. And the only movie where I'll sing along to the end of the world.

"We'll meet again, don't know where, don't know when..."

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sat Nov 14, 2015, 09:15 PM

24. I hope people understand just

how crazy a president he would make.... stand united against the Trump..

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sat Nov 14, 2015, 09:20 PM

25. So you hear a gunshot, see a guy standing there with a gun and pull yours....

 

Turns out that was a "good guy with a gun" responding to the sound just like you,...along with ten other "good guys with guns".

(Perfect place to pop a paper bag.)

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sat Nov 14, 2015, 09:43 PM

26. Didn't help NYC on 9/11. More guns is not the answer to terrorism & bombs beat bullets

Should everyone walk around with hand grenades too?

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sat Nov 14, 2015, 09:46 PM

27. Sure it would have been different.

...a lot more people would have been killed...How stupid can this guy be??? I'm sick of this fucking asshole...please just go away!

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sat Nov 14, 2015, 10:00 PM

28. Donald Trump Stands With Gunfuckery. nt

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sat Nov 14, 2015, 10:02 PM

29. He is a national disgrace. How embarrasing.

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sat Nov 14, 2015, 10:44 PM

30. The scenario Donald Trump wants:

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sat Nov 14, 2015, 11:25 PM

32. When you're dealing with suicide bombers

any advantage will be momentary

Citizens with guns would be out-gunned with the
assault rifles, and the terrorists don't have any barriers
as to how many accomplices they need to carry out their mission

Guns are useless against suicide bombers

Trump's thinking is being seriously flummoxed by the static in his hair

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Response to houston16revival (Reply #32)

Sun Nov 15, 2015, 08:10 AM

40. "Guns are useless against suicide bombers."

But wait...

What if EVERYBODY walked around with high explosives strapped to their bodies? Imagine how safe the world would be THEN!!! /s

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sat Nov 14, 2015, 11:43 PM

33. Trump a republican idiot

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Response to rockfordfile (Reply #33)

Sun Nov 15, 2015, 11:07 AM

49. I agree.

Republican = idiot. Republican is another word for idiot.

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sun Nov 15, 2015, 12:22 AM

35. Korea and Japan have tougher laws

Pretty sure China and Vietnam do too

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sun Nov 15, 2015, 02:05 AM

38. Idiot. Pervert. Disgusting pile of skin. n/t

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sun Nov 15, 2015, 06:01 AM

39. Stupid clown.

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sun Nov 15, 2015, 09:02 AM

41. Right...

What good did guns do us on 9/11? There are instances where it's possible someone with a gun might make a difference, if they know how to use one, if they know who to shoot at, if things don't get so out of control that it becomes a random bloodbath. If we aren't dealing with bombs strapped to peoples bodies - people who are all too ready and all too eager to die for their cause.

It might have been different, it might not have been. Our citizens being well armed hasn't really done much to reduce the murder rate in our own Country, not with millions of unregistered weapons, school shootings - and so very many murders over the years. From muggings gone wrong, to drive-by shootings, to trigger-happy cops.

Let's be honest now, if Mr. Trump had been there, armed or not, he would have found the best hiding spot he could, wet his pants, and cried.

What we need isn't more guns. What we need is more common sense, more generosity, more good will among humanity. What the world really needs now is more love, not more bullets.

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sun Nov 15, 2015, 09:29 AM

43. The "STUPID" is really strong in this one n/t

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sun Nov 15, 2015, 09:53 AM

44. oh yeah, right Donald

 

and the sad thing to think, for me, is many agree with this clown from the "short bus".

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sun Nov 15, 2015, 10:00 AM

45. Hey DT: Shaddup, ya fuckin' moron.

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sun Nov 15, 2015, 11:35 AM

50. Sickening.

 

These victim-blaming gun humping imbeciles are beneath contempt.

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sun Nov 15, 2015, 11:53 AM

51. Am I mistaken - I thought they were wearing suicide bomb vests

Is that asshat going to suggest that everyone should be armed with suicide bomb vests? And the audience clapped, Jesus on a pogo stick please save America.

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Response to packman (Reply #51)

Sun Nov 15, 2015, 10:36 PM

63. gun humpers and logic do not mix

no, not at all

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sun Nov 15, 2015, 12:08 PM

52. Donald Trump needs to strap on his six shooter and head for Paris - Right Now!

I'll chip in for his plane ticket. You?

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Response to NonMetro (Reply #52)

Sun Nov 15, 2015, 12:14 PM

53. And George AWOL Bush to "keep 'em safe!" n/t

 

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Response to tabasco (Reply #53)

Sun Nov 15, 2015, 12:18 PM

54. One way tickets for both?

Of course!

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sun Nov 15, 2015, 01:33 PM

55. Does he mean more deaths at theater

Because once evreyone starts pulling out weapons and firing no one will know who is who, especially the police when they arrive.

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sun Nov 15, 2015, 04:08 PM

56. Anyone that says this is a fool

Trump proves yet again that he is an idiot. This is just the latest in a long series of spouting idiocies. Obama is a Muslim born in Kenya! Build a wall between the U.S and Mexico! Deport the 11 million illegal aliens with a deportation force!
And now this. The death toll in Paris would have been much lower if all of the French were armed.
Let’s look at some recent history.

After the Charlie Hebdo massacre a gun rights organization staged a simulation of the attack to prove their contention that the attack could have been foiled if the writers and editors of Charlie Hebdo had been armed. The January 15th edition of Texas Monthly published a story (by Dan Hoffman) entitled: A Gun Rights Organization Staged a Re-Enactment of the “Charlie Hebdo” Shooting (link: http://www.texasmonthly.com/the-daily-post/a-gun-rights-organization-staged-a-re-enactment-of-the-charlie-hebdo-shooting/)

The organization is called The Truth About Guns. The article points out that the simulation was done a dozen times and a key variable was missing—the element of surprise. The participants were not only armed by knew the attack was coming.

The simulation proved one thing and one thing only.

That being armed had little impact on the ultimate outcome. In the absolute best result one attacker (out of two) was killed, but all of the “writers” and “editors” except one died (and that one ran).

This was a simulation put on by an organization that wanted to prove that being armed when attacked by armed attackers would prevent a massacre. They eliminated the element of surprise. Yet they still couldn’t prove the point they set out to prove.

Wrap your head around that one. It was a rigged test created by a group that had a dog in the hunt and they couldn’t make it work.

Trump and everyone that advances this argument every time there is a massacre is simply wrong. There is no objective evidence that turning the world into an armed camp will result in anything than more violence. More weapons mean only one thing--more gun deaths from accident, confrontations that escalate, deliberate shootings, and, yes, criminal acts.

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Response to Moral Compass (Reply #56)

Sun Nov 15, 2015, 05:55 PM

60. man, they laid into *Malala Yousafzai*: they're just pandering for votes

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sun Nov 15, 2015, 04:27 PM

57. How would guns have defended against suicide bombers?

How well would guns have defended the restaurant?

Jesus Christ. Guns are not the fucking answer to every-fucking-thing.

But it plays to the insane base, and Donald knows it.

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sun Nov 15, 2015, 05:43 PM

59. Only thing different would have been dead people on the ground with guns in holsters n/t

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Sun Nov 15, 2015, 07:43 PM

62. In a crowded cahotic melee, an armed audience would have been shooting each other.

Those who applauded Trump are idiots.

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 09:33 AM

64. We have 3X as many guns per capita and about 4X the murder rate

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 10:48 AM

65. yes, because a small handgun

would soooo effective against ak47s and suicide vests


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