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Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:03 PM

Teen arrested for homemade clock seeking $15M in damages

Source: USA Today/ TV 11 Atlanta

IRVING, Texas -- Attorneys for the family of Ahmed Mohamed, the Irving High School student who made international headlines after being arrested earlier this year for bringing a homemade clock to school, have sent letters to both the city of Irving and the Irving School District demanding apologies and $15 million in damages.

Both letters claim that Mohamed's civil rights were violated, and he and his family have suffered physical and mental anguish because of the ordeal.

The letters claim Ahmed was singled out "because of his race, national origin, and religion."

"Ahmed never threatened anyone, never caused harm to anyone, and never intended to," read the letter to the city. "The only one who was hurt that day was Ahmed, and the damages he suffered were not because of oversight or incompetence. The school and city officials involved knew what they needed to do to protect Ahmed's rights. They just decided not to do it."

Read more: http://www.11alive.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/11/23/ahmed-mohamed-suing/76262308/



Worth $15 million?

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Reply Teen arrested for homemade clock seeking $15M in damages (Original post)
James48 Nov 2015 OP
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thereismore Nov 2015 #50
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Response to James48 (Original post)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:07 PM

1. Good. Not sure it's a $15 million offense, but it's definitely meritworthy,

 

and I hope he succeeds.

Certainly, apologies are free.

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:07 PM

2. Grifters.

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:08 PM

3. The kid got VIP treatment in the WH, then bolts to Quatar with family, now he's suing.


A bit excessive. The clock was just a disassembled and reassembled clock.

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Response to thereismore (Reply #3)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:30 PM

10. Your implication seems irrelevant... at best.

Did he receive that same VIP from the local PD and school authorities? No? Then it seems rather irrelevant, at best.

Odd though that you imply that the student's response was excessive, but not those who originally cuffed and interrogated him.

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #10)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 07:54 PM

50. You are right. He should sue them. nt

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:09 PM

4. He also never built a clock.

 

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Response to 840high (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 06:30 PM

26. Hell, for that crime maybe he should be arrested for impersonating a clock.

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Response to randys1 (Reply #26)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 07:36 PM

42. IMO - asking for $15 million is cheeky.

 

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Response to 840high (Reply #42)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 07:37 PM

43. Of course it is cheeky to you. Not surprised one bit.

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Response to randys1 (Reply #43)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 08:20 PM

60. Hate surprises - good for u.

 

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Response to 840high (Reply #42)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 07:54 PM

51. Agreed. nt

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Response to 840high (Reply #42)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 10:40 PM

73. You always sue for more than you think you can get.

Then when you negotiate you have room to go down.

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Response to randys1 (Reply #26)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 12:27 PM

103. The point is...

... it's really hard to imagine any reason that he took a clock apart and put it in a case unless he was trying to simulate a bomb, and he's certainly old enough to realize what it looked like. I do think the school over-reacted to what appears to be a prank by having him arrested, and that might well be because of prejudice, but I'm not buying the "innocent misunderstanding" line.

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Response to William Seger (Reply #103)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 12:38 PM

105. Ridiculous, so you think the kid was trying to make it look like a bomb

Well, your type of attitude and thinking is why this is a story.

The officials agreed with you, they saw a BROWN kid with something that didnt look right...

you bet

Keep up this horrible attitude (cant call it what it actually is in white America without being silenced) and you will get a real shit storm

Like Trump who now says Black people should be beaten, possibly killed, if they speak.

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Response to randys1 (Reply #105)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:10 PM

109. What I said was...

... I can't think of any other reason he would take a clock apart and put it in a case and then take it to school, and that has nothing whatsoever to do with his ethnicity. I couldn't care very much less how "ridiculous" you find that "horrible attitude" since you can't seem to think of any reason, either.

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Response to William Seger (Reply #109)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:12 PM

110. Jesus, the reason is he was doing a project. had nothing to do with a bomb until some

scared white asshole said it looked like one

Race war could come to America if certain folks dont cut this shit out


not calling poster here asshole, so the hiders go away please

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Response to randys1 (Reply #110)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:37 PM

117. Let me say this again

My opinion -- which is only my opinion -- has nothing whatsoever to do with his ethnicity. You, on the other hand, seem to be quite comfortable with your prejudices.

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Response to randys1 (Reply #110)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 02:12 PM

122. A project for what?

Did any of his teachers assign him a project to do? Did he enter it into some science fair?

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Response to The2ndWheel (Reply #122)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 02:14 PM

123. It was all a plan to scare white people into overreacting so he could sue, America

is a RABIDLY racist country which means MANY Americans are rabidly racist

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Response to randys1 (Reply #123)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 02:27 PM

125. So whatever it was, it wasn't a project

He had no official reason to bring it to school.

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Response to The2ndWheel (Reply #125)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 02:48 PM

126. EAsy to scare some white folks, I guess

ugh, i feel like i need a shower

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Response to randys1 (Reply #123)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 03:07 PM

127. What was the project?

 

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Response to 840high (Reply #127)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 03:08 PM

128. To scare white people. IT comes down to either he meant it to look like a bomb or he

didnt.

I know what you believe

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Response to randys1 (Reply #128)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 03:15 PM

131. I don't care if he's brown, white, green - he lost me.

 

I'll ask you again - what project?

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Response to 840high (Reply #131)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 03:18 PM

132. Uh huh. You betcha LOL I told you the project,

either it was to look like a bomb or it wasnt.

You believe it was

You DESPERATELY and you are not alone want this kid to be guilty of something and hate the idea that he might get this money

i know that

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Response to randys1 (Reply #132)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 04:35 PM

136. I had a LOT of sympathy for him...

... when I thought he "invented" or "made" a clock and just wanted to show it off. My opinion changed when I found out he just stuffed a clock in a case. If you believe it was just a "project" then what was the purpose of this invention? Was the clock just too small in its original case? Did he perceive a need for keeping the time secret in a closed case?

!4-year-olds are immature enough to sometimes do stupid things, but that doesn't mean they're stupid. I'm just having a hard time believing he didn't know it looked like a bomb.

As I said, I think the school overreacted by having him arrested so he may well have a case, but I'm not buying the "innocent misunderstanding" bit.

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Response to William Seger (Reply #136)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 05:18 PM

137. THe kid wasnt trying to make them think he had a bomb. But I can see why

white people would think that.

Most Brown people in America know better.

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Response to randys1 (Reply #137)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 06:20 PM

142. He wasn't trying to make them think he had a bomb

He also had no other reason to bring it in either. If he was trying to impress his teacher, he did, and that same teacher told him not to show it to anyone else. Then he did anyway.

What happens if he doesn't go out of his way to bring the clock into school? Nothing. What happens if he leaves it with the first teacher and takes it home at the end of the day? Nothing. What happens if he just tinkers with things in the garage? Nothing. Nobody stopped him from doing it. Nobody was watching him. They weren't tracking his clock purchases because he's a young Muslim male.

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:10 PM

5. The way the police

and the school district handled the situation was wrong, but it feels like the boy and his family have been taking advantage of the whole thing. $15 million is over-the-top.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 06:31 PM

27. NOt at all. They wont get anywhere near that amount, but a successful suit is the ONLY

way to stop racist assholes from acting like they did.

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Response to randys1 (Reply #27)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 07:43 AM

93. What's his race?

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 07:28 PM

37. It'll be settled before it goes to court for an undisclosed amount which will be a lot less

We all know how that works. You sue for a lot more than you expect to get.

I say go for it. The school district is certainly at fault in how they treated the boy, maybe not 15M at fault but he should get something.

They certainly won't treat anyone like that again after shelling out a substantial amount.

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Response to brush (Reply #37)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 07:34 PM

39. Except the community will pay this hurting many others nt

 

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Response to riderinthestorm (Reply #39)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 07:39 PM

45. They have a reserve insurance fund for law suits

Surely you don't think they should be able to get away scott free for their racist behavior?

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Response to brush (Reply #45)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 07:43 PM

49. No they shouldn't get away scot free

 

But asking for $15 million really paints the family in a terrible light.

And the insurance company may pay but the rate increase will certainly hit the community (if the ins co doesn't completely drop them)

Sorry I guess I think the family erases a big chunk of support with this lawsuit

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Response to riderinthestorm (Reply #49)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 07:55 PM

52. You know how it works. They ask for a lot and settle for an undisclosed amount much less . . .

but still enough to make racist a holes in authority think twice before they treat someone like that again.

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Response to brush (Reply #52)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 08:11 PM

55. $15 million looks bad and will turn off a lot of supporters

 

and I'd say the racist assholes aren't going to think about this lawsuit, not one bit since this episode won't ever personally "cost" them.

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Response to riderinthestorm (Reply #39)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 08:09 PM

54. The community that voted in a racist Teabagger mayor who squawks about

how the Muslims are coming to impose Sharia law on their good Christian community.

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #54)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 08:13 PM

57. Ok

 

not everyone in that community is a racist Teabagger.



I just think asking for $15 million in compensation taints the whole episode. It's turning off supporters and I hate to see that.

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Response to brush (Reply #37)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 08:47 PM

64. Good point

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #5)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 06:31 AM

90. you always put a pie in the sky number

so as to make sure you don't price yourself out of what the verdict is.

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:15 PM

6. Ridiculous.

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Response to Owl (Reply #6)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 06:31 PM

28. It sure was, treating that kid that way because he isnt white, very ridiculous

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Response to randys1 (Reply #28)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 07:38 PM

44. If he had showed up at the

 

White House with his clock - would have been treated same way. No matter what color.

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:17 PM

7. the $15 million is to make the squeel.

he won't get that much but it's enough for everyone to sit up and take notice.

you did, didn't you?

that's the point.

if we are going to hit back at these racist pricks, we have to make it hurt.

that way they will think twice next time before they act like total racist assholes.

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Response to Javaman (Reply #7)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:51 PM

19. The cops wont be paying that money

 

It'll be the taxpayers. So no, there is nothing keeping them from being racist assholes. The family are grifters.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #19)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:55 PM

21. and perhaps after this, the moron people of that area will vote out

these asshole racist board members.

that's how it works.

yes, there will be financial pain, however, if they had a school board with an ounce of brains, this wouldn't be an issue.



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Response to Javaman (Reply #21)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 06:27 PM

25. I'm with you Javaman

 


LeftyNYC has taken offense to my previous defense of a Palestinian nation.. Palestinians.. meaning Muslims, who are in conflict with Israel.

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Response to vkkv (Reply #25)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 06:12 AM

85. Wow - haven't been called

 

an Islamophobe in at least a week by someone here for merely having the nerve to disagree. Yawn.

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Response to Javaman (Reply #21)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 06:27 AM

89. Yup, hit em in the pocket book.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #19)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 06:32 PM

29. Oh my god what a ridiculous and slanderous thing to say.

No, it wont keep any invididual from being a racist, it WILL keep school boards and police departments from employing them, however


Grifters, god damn that pisses me off

REALLY pisses me off

Grifters, FUCK THAT


and libel, since you wrote it here....

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Response to randys1 (Reply #29)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 06:08 AM

83. I don't care that you're pissed

 

$15 million dollars? From the taxpayers? How about they sue the police PERSONALLY? Nah - payout wont be big enough.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #83)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 12:34 PM

104. I dont think they can sue the cops personally, and even if they could it would NOT

resolve the problem.

The problem is administrators and officials hiring assholes, they need to be held accountable.

You wont ever get this, I assume.

Some folks, when they get money, decide that new priorities are in order, which is a shame.

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Response to randys1 (Reply #104)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 12:39 PM

107. They're not even suing

 

They're THREATENING to sue if the city doesn't pay their ransom.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #107)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 12:44 PM

108. Ransom? Man, you really are completely out of it here. I cant say more

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Response to randys1 (Reply #108)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:35 PM

116. Let's see

 

A THREAT to sue (why not just sue?) if they don't pay up to the tune of $15 million. What the fuck would you call it?

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #116)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:58 PM

120. I'm in agreement with you,

though I would say 'extortion' is slightly more accurate than 'ransom'. Splitting hairs, I know.

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Response to christx30 (Reply #120)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 02:19 PM

124. I think they both work

 

equally well here. It's disgusting.

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Response to randys1 (Reply #29)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 06:31 AM

91. Here's another opportunity for you

 

to teach me a real lesson by posting TWO angry emoticons. It actually sounds to me like extortion:

Attorneys for Ahmed Mohamed's family on Monday sent a letter to city and school officials who mistook his clock for a bomb that demanded they pay millions of dollars or else face a civil lawsuit, according to The Dallas Morning News.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ahmed-mohamed-compensation-civil-lawsuit

They'll forego the trouble of a lawsuit - if the city and school district pay up. This is what you're defending.

Feel free to look up my posts from the time. I supported this kid up and down the line - not anymore.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #91)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 03:11 PM

129. I'm with you.

 

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #19)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 07:05 PM

33. Suing for the Big Bucks...

 

They sound like typical Americans! They fit right in!

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #19)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 07:07 PM

34. Exactly! The kid was treated wrongly, but I think this family

has been milking it for all it's worth.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #34)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 07:39 PM

46. Yes they have.

 

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #19)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 07:32 PM

38. Grifters? So you think no one should have to pay for the racist way the boy was treated?

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Response to brush (Reply #38)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 06:09 AM

84. I don't think the TAXPAYERS

 

should have to pay. Let them sue the teacher/police personally. $15 million dollars. That's a disgrace.

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Response to Javaman (Reply #7)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:52 PM

20. EXACTLY!! I'm sure he won't get anything near 15 million - but he certainly deserves a settlement

of some sort and a formal apology from the perpetrators. And the bigots need to learn that there is a price be paid for pulling this shit. But, then again when bigots are welcomed on one of the most liberal websites on the Internet - why should anyone think they might pay a price for their abuse?

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Reply #20)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 06:09 PM

23. +1 to your whole post - all of it.

 

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Response to closeupready (Reply #23)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 08:54 PM

65. yes, it is shocking to hear it from Republican but when people who think are liberals are pushing

xenophobia, hate and bigotry. But when the administration of one of the most liberal forums on the Internet don't seem to think it is any big deal - what is one supposed to think?

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Reply #65)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 12:11 PM

101. Consider Robert Byrd or George Wallace.

 

Perhaps there is a part of the Democratic Party that always was and always will be deeply racist?

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Response to Javaman (Reply #7)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 06:37 PM

30. Hurt who?

Give you a hint, it's not the police or the people working in the schools who lose the money. It doesn't 'get back at' them in the slightest. It ends up hurting the community and the other students, on whom less money will end up being spent for their educations.

Until such lawsuits actually DO come out of the pockets of the people who do stupid, racist, things, they're simply hurting everyone else. Including every other minority kid in that district.

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Response to Erich Bloodaxe BSN (Reply #30)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 07:35 PM

40. +1 nt

 

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Response to Javaman (Reply #96)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:52 PM

118. Good luck with that.

I think we've seen enough with Arpaio being back in power year after year to see that voters don't connect the 'pain' of taxes wasted on lawsuits with their actual votes.

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Response to Erich Bloodaxe BSN (Reply #118)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:55 PM

119. better than not trying.

I wish the kid luck.

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Response to Javaman (Reply #119)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 02:01 PM

121. I reject the false dilemma of 'not trying' being the only alternative to collective punishment

for entire districts.

The far better solution is to remove some of the 'immunity' police departments and police have when they violate civil rights. Make them liable as individuals and departments, and change in their behaviour will come much more quickly.

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Response to Erich Bloodaxe BSN (Reply #121)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 03:27 PM

133. LOL

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you tell me "good luck with that" when you say, "voters don't connect the 'pain' of taxes wasted on lawsuits with their actual votes", but you think there will actually be a type of removal of "immunity"? LOL

dream on.

At least this kid has lawyers and is going to get some action.

your "solution" is at best a pipe dream regarding the current state of affairs.

Their behavior, even with the removal of this presumed immunity you believe, will never change. the concept of "immunity" is systemic. It would take a colossal overhaul to make that happen, if it ever happened.

I grew up in NYC, cops have always been corrupt there, just a fact, it's just a matter of degrees as to how much.

there have been all sorts of "programs" and "laws passed" and investigations by internal affairs and nothing has changed. In fact is has gotten worse.

Why? the patriot act allows for a very wide margin of interpretation of all things the cops deem "criminal".

Your tactic would take many years at best, in the mean time, hoping for your"solution" would allow the same behavior to continue and allow it to go unpunished.

It's neither one way or the other.

the kid gets his day in court (unless it's settled out of court. Very likely) and if you want to encourage change to the system, go for it. It needs it, but in the mean time, the media's spot light on this case will attract more attention to change the current "immunity" cops enjoy instead of taking that one track and not file a lawsuit against the school district.

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:23 PM

8. Clearly this was a case of the police and the school being

so embarrassed about getting fooled by a clock that they invented a reason to arrest/suspend him just to save face

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #8)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:27 PM

9. Next time they want to save face, go to a plastic surgeon. It's cheaper. nt

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Response to Xipe Totec (Reply #9)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:41 PM

13. Either that or just swallow your fucking pride and admit it was

a false alarm...

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #8)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:33 PM

11. Try to plug something like that

at the whitehouse. See if the secret service is the least bit embarrassed by tackling you.

I hope the city and the school send the kid and his family a picture of their middle fingers and threaten to counter sue.
This is a family of grifters. They deserve nothing.

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Response to christx30 (Reply #11)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:44 PM

15. That didn't sound bitter at all. nt

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Response to Xipe Totec (Reply #15)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 05:55 PM

141. At a time when Texas is closing schools because

of budgets, and this kid wants to extort millions?
Not just no, but F no. I hate thieves. He had an afternoon ruined. That's not worth millions from the school district, especially if he's not even going to be a student here.
His dad wanted to stir shit up so he could win the lawsuit lottery. He shouldn't get a dime.

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Response to christx30 (Reply #11)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:44 PM

16. Um.. The White House has

slightly different security protocols than the average public school...

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #16)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 08:02 PM

53. Also,

the White House isn't a public school. Until the WH starts asking kids to bring in their electronic projects for school in order to get credit, it's a horrible analogy. In fact, it doesn't even work as an analogy to Ahmed's situation.

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Response to kentauros (Reply #53)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 08:46 PM

63. The clock wasn't a project, and he wasn't asked to bring it to school.

In fact, the science teacher to whom he first showed the clock, told him to put it away and not take it out again because he realized that it might be mistaken for a bomb.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Reply #63)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 09:54 PM

67. Nonetheless,

the analogy of taking it to the White House is a bad analogy. He showed it to a teacher, his engineering teacher, because that's where he learned about electronics (presumably.) Who would he take it to in the White House, and for what reason?

And technically, he didn't take it out again of his own volition in that English class. He just didn't turn off the audio, so it made itself known (as our electronics sometimes do, and as they are programmed to do.)

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Response to kentauros (Reply #67)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 10:06 PM

68. My point was that the teacher recognized that it might be deemed suspicious

And I don't believe for a minute that anyone ever thought it was a real bomb, although I do believe that some might have felt that it was a prank or hoax - which carries severe penalties in most school districts.

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Reply #63)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 10:32 PM

72. I'm just saying I'm old enough to remember

when a student brought something cool and homemade like that to school, the teacher would stop everything for a few minutes to let the kid to the front of the class so he could explain how he made it...And then the teacher would browbeat the rest of us because Ahmed made something like this in his spare time while the rest of us were wasting time in the arcades, movie theater and roller rink..

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #72)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 04:22 AM

81. Good point



And I wasn't contradicting your initial one, just adding to it

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #72)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 09:50 AM

95. Maybe that was before a hundred crime shows

which routinely feature bombs with clocks ticking on them and some wires here and there.

And probably why his teacher warned him not to show it to anyone.

I mean....we all know that bombs look just like the bombs on our favorite tv program!

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Response to TexasMommaWithAHat (Reply #63)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 10:56 PM

143. Might be mistaken for a bomb by mouth breathing right wing idiots with zero education. nt

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Response to Xipe Totec (Reply #143)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 10:59 PM

144. Most people have only seen bombs on tv

And, frankly, that's as close as I want to get to one.

So, yeah, we're are an ignorant populace when it comes to bombs. I understand that most don't come with ticking timers, for starters.

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #8)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:34 PM

12. huh?

They always knew it wasn't a bomb. Consider that they never evacuated the school, and kept the gizmo in the principals office until the police arrived. The cop never called in a bomb squad, and never took any precautions.

They always knew it wasn't a bomb.

But $15M? When families are burying kin for racial injustice and getting bupkus, this seems over the top. I can see making a point, but at least make it sensibly. This will write a lot of red baiting fund raising letters and ugly segments on fox. That won't help anyone.

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #12)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:47 PM

17. I'll agree $15m is high

and it will certainly get negotiated down to about 15% of that, but there's nothing wrong with starting high -- A huge number is likely to get more media attention too, so this law firm knows what they're doing...

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:43 PM

14. I doubt this ever goes to trial but the video of him laughing and admitting

being arrested "was kind of cool" wouldn't help his case if it did.

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:49 PM

18. And he just lost me as a supporter

 

He got an apology, a trip to the White House and his family moved. Now they're going to fleece the taxpayers of that town to finance them? Assholes.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #18)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 06:26 PM

24. No, the police and school district were WAY out of line and

 

should be 'taught a lesson'.

Texas Dumbfucks!

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Response to vkkv (Reply #24)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 06:14 AM

86. And now the taxpayers

 

which, no doubt, includes many Democrats and people who had nothing to do with this will have to pay for it.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #86)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:24 PM

113. The tax payers always foot the bill

 

Be it police brutality, wrongful conviction compensation, injury from city negligence etc etc. The tax payers always pay for the crime.

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Response to jamzrockz (Reply #113)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:34 PM

115. I know

 

which is why I'm puzzled that so many here are celebrating this suit. The school board and the police will continue to collect their paychecks and the taxpayers will foot this bill. Hardly something to celebrate. Especially as I consider it nothing but extortion - they're not even suing - they're THREATENING to sue if the city doesn't give in to their ransom.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #18)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 07:41 PM

48. He and his family lost me, too. I'm

 

thinking he knew all along what he was doing.

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Response to 840high (Reply #48)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 08:12 PM

56. Really?

 

With cops being gun crazy as they are these days, I doubt he thought it would lead to him being arrested. Going to a Texass jail and being Muslim wouldn't be too wise of a plot IMO.

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Response to 840high (Reply #48)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 09:52 PM

66. Seriously? Do a project that just MIGHT catch the attention of police and other

 

dumbfucks that "oooh,.,, ha ha ha.. I'll make a clock that looks like a BOMB...ha ha ha.. and then.. they'll arrest me.. great! ha ha ha, they'll be falling right IN MY TRAP.. ha ha ha.. and then I'll get a trip to the White HOUse.. ho ho ho.. and then my family will sue them for FIFTEEN MILLION DOLLARS!! oohh.. ha ha ha... my secret plan has worked!!!"""

Yeah, right, and the world circles around every one of your thoughts, too. Got it.

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Response to vkkv (Reply #66)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 10:19 PM

71. I have an opinion. You have an opinion.

 

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Response to vkkv (Reply #66)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 10:43 PM

75. The Westboro Baptist "church" has

made a living out of that kind of thinking. Say inflammatory BS about gays, hoping to get physically attacked. Make a small fortune off the lawsuit. Lather, rinse, repeat.
Not too far beyond the realm of possibility that others might catch onto this get rich quick scheme. The kid probably wasn't in on it. But the father? Definitely.

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Response to vkkv (Reply #66)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 08:28 AM

94. It wasn't a project

Nobody told him to do it, or bring anything in for anything. His science teacher then tells him he shouldn't show it to anyone else, for a specific reason, the whole looks like a bomb thing, but he does it anyway.

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Response to 840high (Reply #48)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 06:15 AM

87. I hadn't thought of that

 

and it's certainly possible. I'm not a fan of trying to litigate behavior.

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 06:02 PM

22. That right there proves he's a real American.

There should be no more doubt.

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 06:38 PM

31. The only way they will stop is if *everyone* sues the crap out of them

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 06:39 PM

32. The justice system will sort this out.

Personally, I find it appalling that the LEO in this case AND the case of the young girl getting beaten had not exhibited any common sense when dealing with children.

If a jury of their peers find it a $15m offense so be it. Stop fucking around with people's civil rights and you don't get sued.

Kinda off topic: I hope someone sues the school district and LEO where that young lady was choked and dragged around while in her seat. That was an atrocity.

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Response to katsy (Reply #32)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 07:36 PM

41. Now she deserves 15M. The boy and his family will settled out of court for a lot less

Which is why they started so high.

There have to be consequences for racist behavior by those in authority or it will never stop.

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Response to brush (Reply #41)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 08:15 PM

58. Agree

Hope they make an heiress of that young lady

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 07:10 PM

35. The people who were damaged the most were his sisters. They had to move to Quatar.

Their whole lives were just changed--and not for the better.

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Response to StevieM (Reply #35)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 07:25 PM

36. So true.

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Response to StevieM (Reply #35)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 10:43 PM

74. An excellent point that will be missed by most here

Well, except for a few actual defenders of Quatar who'll be along soon to post their travel brochures.

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Response to StevieM (Reply #35)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 06:17 AM

88. But I don't blame the taxpayers

 

who are on the hook for this money for them moving to Qatar. They had many places in the US they could have moved. The move to Qatar is on the parents, nobody else.

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 07:40 PM

47. He needs the money to go to bomb making school in Qatar

 


He'll be in the next ISIS video..





(Kidding)

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Response to hollowdweller (Reply #47)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 08:17 PM

59. He doesn't have to go that far

 

Just find the next T-Rump fest and you're there.

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Response to hollowdweller (Reply #47)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 10:14 PM

70. Sure that is what the admins and some of the townspeople believe too

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 08:22 PM

61. No, not worth $15 million or even $1 million. Maybe $150,000 or so. nt

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #61)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 03:59 PM

135. I'm Going For "Enough For College"

Maybe not any college anywhere, but a good one in the field he likes and no student debt when he graduates.

Doesn't hammer the community, but has some impact on those who have to manage those budgets.

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Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #135)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 05:18 PM

138. Which is why I said $150,000 or so, that should knock off a huge chunk for the kid. nt

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 08:42 PM

62. Bear in mind that after taxes they would end up with a mere $9 million or so. (nt)

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 10:08 PM

69. Worth it so they get a reign on school admins & cops judging criminal potential based on race or

religion and not notifying the parents for several hours

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 12:06 AM

76. I'm pretty sure Texas NEEDS that money for education.

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I mean have you seen the education system in Texas recently? Plus, asking for $15 million is about as stupid as taking apart a clock, putting it in a suitcase, and bringing it to school. This kid has got to meet the president, fame, free gifts from Microsoft, a scholarship to MIT,...etc. But apparently that's not enough.

I supported this kid against the Islamophobic attacks but always thought the clock was suspicious. Maybe he shouldn't have been arrested, but it should have definitely been taking away. Plus, who in their right mind takes apart a clock, puts it in a suitcase, and brings it to school? I don't care what color you are, that's just down right suspicious.

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 12:39 AM

78. This was the plan all along

 

They might not have counted on the huge media attention, though.

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Response to Aria36 (Reply #78)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 12:40 AM

79. First post. A freeper sneaking in?

 

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Reply #79)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 12:44 AM

80. You got me

 

Got to watch those borders... might have liberals w/unorthodox opinions getting through.

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Response to Aria36 (Reply #78)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 12:11 PM

102. The family appears to be professional shit-stirrers and attention-seekers.

Sad that they put their kids up to stunts for their own enrichment. But it worked. Even got the President involved. Dumb stuff.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #102)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 12:38 PM

106. Maybe there's a reality show in the making...

 

Yep. He brought the non-bomb to school & showed it to every single teacher until 6th period. Then he plugged it in & set the non-bomb's alarm to go off in the middle of English class. It's like the teachers weren't overreacting enough, so he kept pushing the envelope until finally someone called the cops. Presto, lawsuit!

I'm sort of embarrassed for liberals that so many of us fell for it. I did too until reading the full story. We just assumed he must've been a victim of discrimination w/o knowing all the facts.

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 05:13 AM

82. Dead Homeless Man Gets $5 Million

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141269620

This kid gets a meeting with the president and he wants $15 million.

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 07:18 AM

92. What is his race, again? Muslim?

Muslim is a race, these days.

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Response to Quantess (Reply #92)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:15 PM

111. Years ago

some people thought Jewish was a race. Sound similar?

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 11:46 AM

97. The lawsuit lottery.....part of the new American way.

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 11:51 AM

98. I wish this would happen more often, esp victims of police suing for damage.

We can't touch them in the criminal law system, but if the random fascists in various institutions started getting the piss sued out of them, they would back off. It took a long time, but we eventually got the tobacco industry to back off. More like that, please.

I don't care about the amount the kid is asking for. Go for it. Make these fuckers pay attention.

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 11:56 AM

99. Good, bankrupt them. nt

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Response to bemildred (Reply #99)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:23 PM

112. Them are the taxpayer

There is no "them".

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Response to Democat (Reply #112)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:27 PM

114. They are the city government, and they are the tax-spenders, not the tax-payers. nt

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 12:00 PM

100. "Worth $15 million?"

No. Breakfast for four at Denny's, tops.

Spend the money on educating people who will stay in this country rather than beat feet to Qatar.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #100)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 03:14 PM

130. ...+1

 

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #100)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 03:34 PM

134. And apologies are free - yet, he needs to file a lawsuit to get one?

 

??

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #100)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 05:24 PM

139. Just because they moved back to Qatar does not give the police or school a

get out of jail card.
I agree 100% that the demand for 15 million is bullshit though but I could see around $150,000 being put into a trust fund for the kid to pay for some of his college education or to be turned over to him when he reachs the age of 30.

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Tue Nov 24, 2015, 05:26 PM

140. The little shyster can go to Qatar and never come back...

and should not get one penny of money.

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