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friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 01:10 AM Nov 2015

Burger King Confirms Chicago Police Deleted Video Of McDonald Shooting

Source: Crooks And Liars

On the heels of dashcam footage of the Laquan McDonald shooting released today, other news is coming out about how Chicago police worked to suppress video proving he was shot without justification.

According to NBC News Chicago, 86 minutes of security video was missing after the shooting, after police ran through and reviewed it but before any official investigation had been opened, and Burger King has confirmed that it was deleted by police reviewing the video.

After the shooting, according to Jay Darshane, the District Manager for Burger King, four to five police officers wearing blue and white shirts entered the restaurant and asked to view the video and were given the password to the equipment. Three hours later they left, he said.

The next day, when an investigator from the Independent Police Review Authority asked to view the security footage, it was discovered that the 86 minutes of video was missing.

Read more: http://crooksandliars.com/2015/11/burger-king-confirms-chicago-police



Here's a link to the original NBC Chicago report, with further details:

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Alvarez-Addresses-Missing-Minutes-From-Security-Video-in-Laquan-McDonald-Case-353209051.html#ixzz3sRjNiZEE

Earlier this year, a Chicago-area district manager for the food chain told NBC5 Investigates that Chicago police officers deleted footage from the security camera.

The 86-minutes of missing video runs from 9:13 p.m. to 10:39 p.m., according to the lawyers for McDonald’s family. McDonald was shot at approximately 9:50 p.m...

...In a statement, a spokesman for the IPRA said: "We have no credible evidence at this time that would cause us to believe CPD purged or erased any surveillance video."

But according to Darshane, both the cameras and video recorder were all on and working properly the night of the shooting.
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Burger King Confirms Chicago Police Deleted Video Of McDonald Shooting (Original Post) friendly_iconoclast Nov 2015 OP
oops? truthisfreedom Nov 2015 #1
evidence disappears?.. business as usual nt msongs Nov 2015 #2
Something really off about that headline jberryhill Nov 2015 #3
Agreed. n/t Wilms Nov 2015 #4
Ambiguous cognitive associations jberryhill Nov 2015 #7
Nice catch. eom SusanaMontana41 Nov 2015 #6
But where was Wendys at the time? Rex Nov 2015 #8
It takes an old White woman to find humor in the brutal murder of a Black child 951-Riverside Nov 2015 #12
It's not a matter of "finding humor" jberryhill Nov 2015 #13
Agreed... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2015 #36
I was going to add a snarky comment... Javaman Nov 2015 #29
I was wondering if it they did it on purpose. PersonNumber503602 Nov 2015 #41
Jesus fucking Christ. SusanaMontana41 Nov 2015 #5
Call in the FBI now. This behavior is the tip of the iceberg... dinkytron Nov 2015 #9
Provide more funding for FBI, too duhneece Nov 2015 #17
Chicago Police have been brutalizing people for decades, marym625 Nov 2015 #10
People that are clueless on that history need to search Jon Burge. bullwinkle428 Nov 2015 #39
Definitely. I'll even help marym625 Nov 2015 #42
Psst... Preserve the drives... It's not gone! truthisfreedom Nov 2015 #11
It's been a year. If Burger King continued to use the drives the data is gone csziggy Nov 2015 #28
Whoah! K&r uppityperson Nov 2015 #14
Try some justice for a change. Enthusiast Nov 2015 #15
I Thought Only People On DU Who Dont Like Bernie Delete Things billhicks76 Nov 2015 #16
Nice...tampering with evidence coyote Nov 2015 #18
standard operating procedure Locrian Nov 2015 #19
Trust the FBI? Trust the US DOJ? Trust the Establishment erronis Nov 2015 #33
Okay. Then, everyone associated with the erasing of the video ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #20
Couldn't agree with you more. Well said. (nt) Paladin Nov 2015 #21
Amen to that. brer cat Nov 2015 #22
And from what I can see from here Big_Mike Nov 2015 #43
+1 Dr. Strange Nov 2015 #25
+all. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2015 #27
Yep. reflection Nov 2015 #31
I'm late to this pile on, but fines and firings don't mean a thing. erronis Nov 2015 #34
I disagree ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #37
Move along, nothing to see here. safeinOhio Nov 2015 #23
I thank God that someone had that courage kenichol Nov 2015 #24
Crooked fucks. PatrickforO Nov 2015 #26
My family is from IL Big_Mike Nov 2015 #44
There needs to be a new federal law that LEO's can't seize security tapes without a judge's order Reter Nov 2015 #30
I wonder if anyone recorded the names and badge numbers of the police officers MH1 Nov 2015 #32
Vanished, just like votes! nt valerief Nov 2015 #35
Look it's a criminal conspiracy under state law musiclawyer Nov 2015 #38
K&R. Thom Hartmann had a great show on this police brutality and racism today on KPFK. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #40
 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
12. It takes an old White woman to find humor in the brutal murder of a Black child
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 02:39 AM
Nov 2015

Burger King ...McDonald ...well played Karoli Kuns ...well played

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
13. It's not a matter of "finding humor"
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 02:42 AM
Nov 2015

It's a bad headline because it has ambiguous associations and can be confusing at first glance.

I see problem headlines like that a lot. Part of it is the way I process written information, but I'm often left wondering if it is done on purpose or not.

The NYT used to regularly have odd juxtapositions of headlines near unrelated photos pertaining to another story, and I thought for years they were doing it on purpose. I'm still not sure.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
36. Agreed...
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 08:11 PM
Nov 2015

a headline shouldn't make you wonder what the heck is going on. The first thing I thought was "why does Burger King have tape of a shooting that happened at McDonald's?"

Javaman

(62,517 posts)
29. I was going to add a snarky comment...
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 12:32 PM
Nov 2015

such as "Taco Bell had no comment".

but given the situation. I thought better of it.

dinkytron

(568 posts)
9. Call in the FBI now. This behavior is the tip of the iceberg...
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 02:04 AM
Nov 2015

These guys are the real "organized crime" This reminds me of the "Dirty Thirty" police scandal in NYC...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_Thirty

(edited for more complete thoughts)

duhneece

(4,112 posts)
17. Provide more funding for FBI, too
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 07:58 AM
Nov 2015

As dirty law enforcement awareness grows, we need more funding for the agencies who can investigate properly.
Kinda like the EPA, State Dept., etc.....

marym625

(17,997 posts)
10. Chicago Police have been brutalizing people for decades,
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 02:26 AM
Nov 2015

Probably since inception. Still, people disappear when taken in. And I don't mean arrested. No trace. No arrest. And that thin blue line is extremely thick in Chicago.

I know there are good cops. The initial responders here did the right thing. Until another cop didn't.

We need a complete overhaul of police departments throughout the country. Good, bad or indifferent, every single department needs to change how it operates.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
42. Definitely. I'll even help
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 02:25 PM
Nov 2015
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Burge

He couldn't have done what he did without the cooperation of every cop, prosecutors, Attorney General, Mayor and even the Governor. Not for that long. And the blue line is just as thick now as it was then,

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
28. It's been a year. If Burger King continued to use the drives the data is gone
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 12:12 PM
Nov 2015

The police returned the drives to Burger King some weeks after they were confiscated. If the store put the drive back into service, any data from that night has been overwritten numerous times since October of 2014.

 

coyote

(1,561 posts)
18. Nice...tampering with evidence
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 08:13 AM
Nov 2015

Who would of thought our law enforcements officials would break the law? To protect and serve my ass.

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
19. standard operating procedure
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 08:20 AM
Nov 2015

Cover up and shut up...

This needs an FBI investigation - and charges (accessory to murder after the fact???) for tampering with evidence? And it needs to go to the top. I find this quote particularly distrubing:



The next day, when an investigator from the Independent Police Review Authority asked to view the security footage, it was discovered that 86 minutes of the video were missing.

In a statement, a spokesman for the IPRA said: "We have no credible evidence at this time that would cause us to believe CPD purged or erased any surveillance video."

erronis

(15,241 posts)
33. Trust the FBI? Trust the US DOJ? Trust the Establishment
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 07:52 PM
Nov 2015

You must be on drugs or a True Believer.

These agencies are staffed by people that came out of "law" "enforcement". They have learned the rules and understand the principles of omerta.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
20. Okay. Then, everyone associated with the erasing of the video ...
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 08:29 AM
Nov 2015

should be prosecuted and fired for cause (not just allowed to retire).

And every officer on the scene, that did not give a truthful account of what occurred, should be prosecuted and fired for cause (not just allowed to retire).

Eventually, L/E will get the message and a class of officers will say, "Screw it ... Let's do the job right." and those that can't won't, will quit or be headed to prison ... and I'm fine with that.

brer cat

(24,559 posts)
22. Amen to that.
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 09:04 AM
Nov 2015

Until they target the ones covering up and the ones remaining silent there will be no justice and no change to the organization.

Big_Mike

(509 posts)
43. And from what I can see from here
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 04:18 AM
Nov 2015

It looks like this goes all the way to the mayor's office. They need to identify everyone involved, no matter the level, and toss them out. I don't see how it could have gone as far as the governor, but I would certainly think that ol' Raum saw the police tapes the day after they were pulled from the squad cars. Obviously, no one other than those cops saw the missing 86 minutes.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
34. I'm late to this pile on, but fines and firings don't mean a thing.
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 07:57 PM
Nov 2015

Fines against someone who is just barely making payments will just result in another person looking for ways to make money outside of the system.

Firings also results in someone who will never work again except in criminal activities.

Freeing up some cells of non-violent, possibly rehabilitave people, and the repopulating with these ex-police criminals will be a good use of resources.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
37. I disagree ...
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 08:28 PM
Nov 2015

Well not about the fines part, which I didn't mention; but, sgree, would be ineffective. But firings would be extremely effective, if for no other reason, then to get the bad apples out, and communicate a consequence to the force.

Now the matter of what to do with the newly convicted ... that is a different conversatile ... that I do have thoughts on.

safeinOhio

(32,673 posts)
23. Move along, nothing to see here.
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 09:36 AM
Nov 2015

Just another professional courtesy by one brother for another brother. It's just a tradition that goes with the trade.

kenichol

(252 posts)
24. I thank God that someone had that courage
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 11:39 AM
Nov 2015

I imagine this to have been a difficult decision...and am grateful to all who stood behind revealing this ugly truth.

Big_Mike

(509 posts)
44. My family is from IL
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 04:20 AM
Nov 2015

You have just officially named most of the politicians and cops in Chicago. I've lost count lately, who has the most former politicians in prison the Dems or the Repukes.

 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
30. There needs to be a new federal law that LEO's can't seize security tapes without a judge's order
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 12:41 PM
Nov 2015

This happenes all the time, even on 9/11 near gas station by the Pentagon.

MH1

(17,600 posts)
32. I wonder if anyone recorded the names and badge numbers of the police officers
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 02:50 PM
Nov 2015

who were given the password?

Or at least is their another video showing the 4 - 5 officers entering the restaurant?

Perhaps all of them should be suspended and investigated.

musiclawyer

(2,335 posts)
38. Look it's a criminal conspiracy under state law
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 09:00 PM
Nov 2015

We know that. But it's likely within Federal Law as a hate crime/ civil rights crime now.
If multiple sworn personnel are not prosecuted, from evidence techs to managers, it will be proof we live in a failed state

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