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nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 05:10 AM Jan 2016

Iran: Saudis face 'divine revenge' for executing al-Nimr

Source: BBC

Iran: Saudis face 'divine revenge' for executing al-Nimr


23 minutes ago

From the section Middle East


Saudi Arabia will face "divine revenge" for its execution of a prominent Shia cleric, Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has warned.

Ayatollah Khamenei described Sheikh Nimr al-Nimr as a "martyr" who acted peacefully.
(snip)

Ayatollah Khamenei said the cleric had been executed for his opposition to Saudi Arabia's Sunni rulers. "This oppressed scholar had neither invited people to armed movement, nor was involved in covert plots," the ayatollah tweeted. "The only act of #SheikhNimr was outspoken criticism," he added, saying the "unfairly-spilled blood of oppressed martyr #SheikhNimr will affect rapidly & Divine revenge will seize Saudi politicians".

Sheikh Nimr had been a figurehead in the anti-government protests that erupted in the wake of the Arab Spring up to his arrest in 2012.

Iran - Saudi Arabia's main regional rival - has led condemnation among Shia communities over the execution.
(snip)


Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-35216694

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Iran: Saudis face 'divine revenge' for executing al-Nimr (Original Post) nitpicker Jan 2016 OP
Link to AP nitpicker Jan 2016 #1
The House of Saud is a major US ally. delrem Jan 2016 #2
where the US is going with this? karynnj Jan 2016 #9
Both Saudi Arabia and Iran have many faces: one is the citizen of the rational world face... Raster Jan 2016 #17
I recall Iran being in an "axis of evil" daleo Jan 2016 #14
We'll forward you name to the Army recruiters Ducksworthy Jan 2016 #20
I'm positive daleo Marty McGraw Jan 2016 #21
Re-read my post daleo Jan 2016 #22
I've heard him described as the Shiite version of Martin Luther King. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #3
Nobody can deny that it's intended as a direct provocation. delrem Jan 2016 #5
I bet the Saudi Royals didn't anticipate the backlash. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #19
If there was going to be divine act Geronimoe Jan 2016 #4
"Revenge" happens after someone is killed, not before. bananas Jan 2016 #6
I don't think you realize just how provocative this was ChairmanAgnostic Jan 2016 #12
The Saudis have hit the hornets nest big time. Vinca Jan 2016 #7
Of course they will. Thanks to Big Oil and certain political allies... Raster Jan 2016 #18
Just one more flare-up in the Sunni/Shiite kerfuffle. JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2016 #8
I think they DO mind karynnj Jan 2016 #10
47 executions in one day.... Jesus Malverde Jan 2016 #11
Unforgivable on our part. ChairmanAgnostic Jan 2016 #13
The phrase "mass execution" fits daleo Jan 2016 #15
Actually... Plucketeer Jan 2016 #16
Those countries never got along.Foolish of the Iranian cleric to live in Saudi Arabia & preach out. Sunlei Jan 2016 #23
He wasn't Iranian. roamer65 Jan 2016 #24

delrem

(9,688 posts)
2. The House of Saud is a major US ally.
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 05:49 AM
Jan 2016

Just like Turkey is a NATO country and is unlikely to do anything that NATO doesn't recommend.

I really don't understand where the US is going with this.

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
9. where the US is going with this?
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 10:06 AM
Jan 2016

There is no suggestion that the US actually controls either Turkey or Saudi Arabia. The idea that everything here is a Russia US proxy war is simplistic.

Both are authoritarian regimes with horrible leadership and both are part of the problem. The US spoke against this execution and others, but seems to have very little influence when the leaders of either of these countries disagree with us.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
17. Both Saudi Arabia and Iran have many faces: one is the citizen of the rational world face...
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 12:42 PM
Jan 2016

...others are the Sunni vs. Shia Muslim faces that harbor blood feuds over a thousand years old. And I completely agree: the commonly held falsehood that everything in this area boils down to US vs. Russia, is not only simplistic, but achingly ignorant. Further, neither the US nor Russia have been able to respond in the Middle East with anything other than a purely reactive stumbling about FOR DECADES. Neither the US nor Russia understand the Middle East mindset enough to yield proactive responses. Both the US and Russia have caused disastrous and severe world-wide consequences due entirely to their lack understanding and the over abundance of macho bravado. Case-in-point: Afghanistan.

daleo

(21,317 posts)
14. I recall Iran being in an "axis of evil"
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 11:59 AM
Jan 2016

War with Saudi Arabia would be a good excuse for the U.S. to invade Iran, if an agreeable president was in power. Which, one could be, within a year.

Ducksworthy

(55 posts)
20. We'll forward you name to the Army recruiters
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 01:28 PM
Jan 2016

When a president more to your liking decides to invade Iran.

daleo

(21,317 posts)
22. Re-read my post
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 06:01 PM
Jan 2016

You will see that I wasn't pulling for an invasion, just saying that this can be seen in the light of an overall plan - one that I don't want to see carried out.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
6. "Revenge" happens after someone is killed, not before.
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 09:33 AM
Jan 2016

"Divine revenge will seize Saudi politicians" - The Supreme Leader of The Islamic Republic of Iran

https://twitter.com/khamenei_ir/status/683535417967296512

Khamenei.ir
?@khamenei_ir

Doubtlessly, unfairly-spilled blood of oppressed martyr #SheikhNimr will affect rapidly & Divine revenge will seize Saudi politicians.

10:28 PM - 2 Jan 2016



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran

Iran ... officially the Islamic Republic of Iran ...

<snip>

The Leader of the Revolution ("Supreme Leader&quot is responsible for delineation and supervision of the general policies of the Islamic Republic of Iran.[174] The Supreme Leader is Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces, controls the military intelligence and security operations, and has sole power to declare war or peace.[174] The heads of the judiciary, state radio and television networks, the commanders of the police and military forces and six of the twelve members of the Guardian Council are appointed by the Supreme Leader.[174]

<snip>

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
12. I don't think you realize just how provocative this was
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 11:49 AM
Jan 2016

And how the entire Mideast can erupt over this killing.

The only country with greater internal pressures and potential strife than Saudi Arabia is China. Not NK, because there is no internal pressure or strife permitted there.

This could lead to a world war.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
18. Of course they will. Thanks to Big Oil and certain political allies...
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 12:44 PM
Jan 2016

...they own us, in a sense.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,338 posts)
8. Just one more flare-up in the Sunni/Shiite kerfuffle.
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 09:55 AM
Jan 2016

And I don't think the U.S. government minds if they continue to pound on each other.

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
10. I think they DO mind
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 10:14 AM
Jan 2016

If they didn't, neither Kerry or Obama would have invested the effort to bring Iran and Saudi Arabia together in Vienna.

In fact, arguments that they wanted this or do not care likely spring from the idea that we are so strong nothing happens unless we covertly agree. In fact, the world is far more complicated.

I suspect that SA is a very insecure authoritarian country that is brutally surprising any voice they see as leading any group not totally aligned with them. They Are Doing THIS AGAINST the protests of the US.

daleo

(21,317 posts)
15. The phrase "mass execution" fits
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 12:02 PM
Jan 2016

It's an ugly phrase, though, generally reserved for regimes that the west officially disapproves of. "Friends" get a pass.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
16. Actually...
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 12:31 PM
Jan 2016

At least DOUBLE that many (unsanctioned) executions (murders) happen IN the USA every day - and NOTHING is done about it beyond local justice.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
24. He wasn't Iranian.
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 09:18 PM
Jan 2016

He was a Saudi citizen from the majority Shi'a Eastern province of Saudi Arabia.

This province contains most of the KSA's oil reserves and is majority Shi'a Arab, like southern Iraq and Iran's Khuzestan province.

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