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LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 03:28 PM Jan 2016

Pres. Obama Won't Make Dem Primary Endorsement: WH

Source: NBC News

President Barack Obama's chief of staff said the White House will not endorse a Democratic primary candidate in the 2016 contest — contrary to reports over the summer suggesting the president might have been interested in weighing in.

"We'll do exactly what has been done in the past, which is when the nominee will be set, then the president will be out there," White House Chief of Staff Denis McDonough said in a 'Meet the Press' interview with Chuck Todd Sunday.

Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/pres-obama-won-t-make-dem-primary-endorsement-wh-n493606



It says Sanders has "waffled" on gun control over the course of his career - He still rates -D from the NRA.
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Pres. Obama Won't Make Dem Primary Endorsement: WH (Original Post) LiberalElite Jan 2016 OP
PP should have zentrum Jan 2016 #1
We can figure PP Plucketeer Jan 2016 #2
It's funny how AFAIK LiberalElite Jan 2016 #3
I don't know about "funny" Plucketeer Jan 2016 #7
Not humorous funny but odd funny - LiberalElite Jan 2016 #9
Gotsha! Plucketeer Jan 2016 #14
Great minds.... nt LiberalElite Jan 2016 #16
No endorsements matter this time ram2008 Jan 2016 #4
Warren enid602 Jan 2016 #11
Presidents don't endorse pre-primary. Silly topic. Hortensis Jan 2016 #22
Good. vi5 Jan 2016 #5
Not at all surprising. Bleacher Creature Jan 2016 #6
I don't expect LiberalElite Jan 2016 #10
I take the President at his word As to the Cabinet members, some may be betting on Clinton to win, karynnj Jan 2016 #17
Great points. nt SunSeeker Jan 2016 #24
Whoops. There is definitely something going on in the election universe Android3.14 Jan 2016 #8
Can you name the last democratic president who sufrommich Jan 2016 #12
Yup. Android3.14 Jan 2016 #15
And the last Democratic president who was still in office when his successor was being chosen Ken Burch Jan 2016 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jan 2016 #18
Voting agianst the Brady Bill and to immunize gun manufacturers from law suits Agnosticsherbet Jan 2016 #13
Certainly. It was a shameful vote. Dawson Leery Jan 2016 #19
You need to do the research on that legilation BUT INdemo Jan 2016 #21
His votes were utterly wrong. People go back all the time and dig up Clinton's past. Agnosticsherbet Jan 2016 #25
if you knew anything about bernie sanders hopemountain Jan 2016 #28
I know his voting record on important gun issues. Agnosticsherbet Jan 2016 #29
What else do you have? INdemo Jan 2016 #31
That is an important issue, and people should be able to admit that he is deeply flawed Agnosticsherbet Jan 2016 #33
He still gets a -D but that won't matter to y ou eom LiberalElite Jan 2016 #23
The NRA and rating system are shit. Sanders Votes are what matter in this issue. Agnosticsherbet Jan 2016 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jan 2016 #20
Surely the headline should be Mike__M Jan 2016 #27
very wise. n/t MBS Jan 2016 #30
I agree with this as a matter of policy tabasco Jan 2016 #32
For a long time, we were all led to believe Ken Burch Jan 2016 #34

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
1. PP should have
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 03:31 PM
Jan 2016

…done the same thing, i.e., waited until we have a Democratic Primary winner and only then, endorse.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
2. We can figure PP
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 03:36 PM
Jan 2016

and a lot of the other endorsements are all part of the coronation strategy..... UNLESS - they ask their membership.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
7. I don't know about "funny"
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 03:49 PM
Jan 2016

but it certainly matches the kind of "representation" we have from our legislators.

ram2008

(1,238 posts)
4. No endorsements matter this time
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 03:40 PM
Jan 2016

Record low congressional approval, very high anti establishment feelings within the electorate, and the feeling that there is a coronation going on give endorsements very little weight. The expectation is Hillary gets all of them.

The only endorsement I can see mattering is Elizabeth Warren if she decides to endorse Bernie over Hillary before Iowa.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
22. Presidents don't endorse pre-primary. Silly topic.
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 05:20 PM
Jan 2016

Ram2008, Obama's endorsement would be extremely influential because many, many people respect him and want to continue what he has started.

I believe your assumptions are flawed. Many millions of voters are unhappy with the "establishment" because they feel it hasn't done enough, not because they're allied with right-wingers in trying to tear down the establishment.

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
5. Good.
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 03:41 PM
Jan 2016

He should stay out of the primary discussion and wait for there to be nominee before he campaigns or weighs in. Many other groups and folks should do or have done the same but they are clearly looking for a leg up and a head start once favors start to be returned, so.....can't say I blame them.

Bleacher Creature

(11,252 posts)
6. Not at all surprising.
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 03:46 PM
Jan 2016

Sitting Presidents don't usually wade into primary contests. That said, the fact that a bunch of his cabinet members have endorsed HRC is very telling.

And in all seriousness, does anyone really expect the President to endorse the guy who wanted him primaried in 2012?

karynnj

(59,498 posts)
17. I take the President at his word As to the Cabinet members, some may be betting on Clinton to win,
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 04:22 PM
Jan 2016

others started in the Clinton administration. Anthony Foxx and Julian Castro did not - both were really too young. Castro has been the pretty obvious VP candidate proposed if Clinton wins.

A quick look at wikipedia:
Thomas Perez was a deputy assistant AG under Janet Reno.
Vilsak was a top DLC person, who initially ran himself in 2008, then dropped out and endorsed Clinton - long before the Iowa caucus.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
8. Whoops. There is definitely something going on in the election universe
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 03:54 PM
Jan 2016

Looks like Obama knows the populists are about to overrun Camp Weathervane.

To put it in Willy Wonka terms, we all see who the Bad Egg is, and Veruca Salt is about to drop through the chute.


 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
35. And the last Democratic president who was still in office when his successor was being chosen
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 06:23 AM
Jan 2016

Lyndon Johnson, not only endorsed but essentially IMPOSED Hubert Humphrey, his vice president, as the Democratic nominee in 1968, thus creating the only possible situation in which Richard Nixon could ever make a comeback from political oblivion.

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Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
13. Voting agianst the Brady Bill and to immunize gun manufacturers from law suits
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 04:02 PM
Jan 2016

rates an F on what American's needed.

Who gives a shit what rating the NRA gives. People can justify anything for those they support. On the big issues, Sander's voted with the NRA and against the interest of Americans.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
21. You need to do the research on that legilation BUT
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 05:08 PM
Jan 2016

if that's all you have on Bernie Sanders is a vote NO on a gun bill 10 years ago, then I would say we are in excellent shape.

Now..Would you like for me to go back 10 years ad dig up issues from Hillary's past (and i will give you references) I will if you'd like?

I will find explanations how the Clinton's left the White House Broke and ended up multimillionaires..I could do that too

If Bernie Sanders has ever given any $200,000 speeches I haven't found any reference to that but I will double check.

Note: this post will go unanswered because when one challenges a Hillary fan they never respond.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
25. His votes were utterly wrong. People go back all the time and dig up Clinton's past.
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 06:18 PM
Jan 2016

Go for it. This isn't about Clinton.

His vote was wrong for what America needs today. They are wrong for what I expect in a person who wants my vote for President.

I don't give a flying dingleberry if Sander's or Clinton were paid a nickel for a speech or a million dollars. I am not offended by the money they make.
Those two votes show Sanders' attitudes towards guns and gun control. They are wrong for what we need in America today.

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
28. if you knew anything about bernie sanders
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 06:58 PM
Jan 2016

or understood his motivations for social justice - you would have the common sense to recognize that bernie does see that 10 years ago is not the same america of today and that he favor more reasonable legislation to protect the public - such as endorsing the president's recent executive actions. i you want to understand the differentiation of america 10 yrs ago with today's america, you may begin with who benefited from the depression of '08 - and follow the money.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
29. I know his voting record on important gun issues.
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 07:11 PM
Jan 2016

He voted wrong when he voted against the Brady Bill and voted to immunize Gun Manufacturing Corporations.

I've been told often by his supporters that it is the consistency of his economic justice message that matters, unchanged since the 70's. Should I laud him for consistency on guns or has he evolved?

Those votes mattered. Both O'Malley and Clinton have better records on a critical issue that grows more important with each mass shooting.

Interestingly, he did not think that other industries should be given immunity, only Gun corporations. I must assume he simply like gun corporations.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-01-10/bernie-sanders-supported-gun-company-immunity-but-opposed-it-for-other-industries

His stand on gun regulation is absolutely wrong. You can like him for other issues, but on this issues he fails.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
33. That is an important issue, and people should be able to admit that he is deeply flawed
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 11:56 PM
Jan 2016

in that area.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
26. The NRA and rating system are shit. Sanders Votes are what matter in this issue.
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 06:21 PM
Jan 2016

I don't see how anyone on the left would care about a rating system by a group that places the guns over the right of six years olds to live.

I do see that using Sanders rating by the NRA to justify his shitty position on those votes releases supports from asking real questions about what he stands for on gun control.

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Mike__M

(1,052 posts)
27. Surely the headline should be
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 06:22 PM
Jan 2016

either
"President Obama turns back on Clinton"
or
"President refuses to endorse Clinton rivals"

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
32. I agree with this as a matter of policy
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 08:13 PM
Jan 2016

I don't think the President should endorse within the party.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
34. For a long time, we were all led to believe
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 06:16 AM
Jan 2016

that it was inevitable that the president would endorse HRC. So much for, er, inevitability.

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