Armed group says it has accessed government files at refuge
Source: Associated Press
Armed group says it has accessed government files at refuge
Rick Bowmer, Associated Press
Updated 6:32 pm, Monday, January 11, 2016
BURNS, Ore. (AP) The leader of a small, armed group occupying a national wildlife refuge in southeastern Oregon said Monday he and his followers are going through government documents stored inside refuge buildings.
Ammon Bundy told reporters the documents will be used to "expose" how the government has discriminated local ranchers who use federal land for cattle grazing.
Bundy said the documents would also help secure the release of Steven and Dwight Hammond, two area ranchers convicted of arson who returned to prison last week to serve longer sentences. The Hammonds' case set off the occupation of the Burns-area refuge on Jan. 2.
Bundy said his group is not accessing government computers at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, including personnel files.
Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/science/article/Call-for-supplies-as-Oregon-standoff-enters-6750211.php
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,584 posts)A list of who bought maps and field guides at the gift shop?
Sancho
(9,067 posts)Almost as exciting as secret emails!!
tishaLA
(14,176 posts)And now this. They're just piling up federal crimes, aren't they?
Bless their little hearts.
padfun
(1,786 posts)If they are connected to a domain, then anyone with "domain admins" can access every file remotely. And depending on their setup, those with "Power User" can too. They could also access the registry (regedit) if they wanted to plant a keylogger on them to see what the Bundy group is typing at any given machine. If they have folder redirection (Citrix?) then those network guys can access it remotely with the full desktop on display but in this case, the confidential files would be stored on a server folder instead of the desktop.
So if they do try to access confidential information, the feds will know. They can also limit what can be accessed by this group.
Just saying..
Edit: was to add "remotely" to make it clear.
underpants
(182,603 posts)Thanks
homegirl
(1,427 posts)will those in charge cut off all utilities and access? Starve them out then a trial and three hots and a cot for about 10 years. Will the taxpayers never be released from these locusts?
Baitball Blogger
(46,682 posts)The feds are out to lunch.
niyad
(113,049 posts)would freeze, costing thousands to repair or replace. that was the reason given last week for not doing so.
as far as access- who knows. they are clearly being coddled, and treated as though this were some sort of harmless prank by a bunch of frat boys.
emulatorloo
(44,058 posts)Eventually these guys will be gone, but not without racking up a bunch more charges.
2naSalit
(86,323 posts)in High Country News...
A look at how the feds have and have not punished individuals for defying regulations.
One of the reasons Ammon and Ryan Bundy and their armed friends are holed up at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, deep in the frigid sage plains of Oregon, is to protest what they see as an unjust punishment of a father-son pair of local ranchers, Dwight and Steven Hammond.
In October, a judge ordered each of the Hammonds to finish a five year required minimum sentence for lighting fires on public land back in 2001 and 2006. Critics say thats far too harsh. And, indeed, it is a much greater punishment than the Bundys father, Cliven, has so far received for grazing his cattle illegally and without paying fees on a Bureau of Land Management allotment for decades. In fact, Bundy has yet to be punished at all, either for that or for his role in inciting supporters to threaten federal agents at gunpoint back in May of 2014.
Former federal officials blame the Bureau of Land Management's inaction in the Bundy case for the debacle thats unfolding in Oregon today. At the end of the day, most people have a common respect for the law, and with Mr. Bundy, he just believes differently, that hes above the law, Bob Abbey, former director of the BLM, told High Country News recently. The fact that their trespass hasnt been dealt with in a timely matter reinforced beliefs.
HCN took a look at a handful of similar cases involving BLM land, and at the punishment for whatever transgressions might have occurred in order to see how consistent, or otherwise, the agency has been.
---SNIP---
much more at link
http://www.hcn.org/articles/the-people-v-the-blm-bundy-hammonds-malheur
enough
(13,255 posts)Thank you for posting this.
2naSalit
(86,323 posts)I like to help people become informed about issues. This one I just happen to have some info about since I've been watching this slow moving train wreck for almost two decades. I truly appreciate when journalists get it right with perspectives beyond my own.
emulatorloo
(44,058 posts)because of some fantasy about how those horrible lieberal demoncrat activist judges would mollycoddle criminals.
If the Bundy Bunch has a problem with Mandatory sentences they should take it up with the Republican assholes who made Mandatory Sentences mandatory.
The Hammonds willingly went to prison to serve their time. The Hammonds have no use for Bundy or the other pretend-vets and pretend-ranchers in his Mormon-extremist militia. They are requesting clemency from President Obama.
JEB
(4,748 posts)How many thousands of people have suffered "unjust" penalties due to mandatory sentencing laws? A kid in my hometown got in a fistfight at a beer party at the beach and served 7 years thanks to mandatory sentencing. Even the judge and prosecutor were frustrated with the mandatory sentence.
babylonsister
(171,032 posts)Hammonds' records be there physically?
2naSalit
(86,323 posts)protected info since it was a litigation. The feds have been able to limit info access so I'm not too fired up about that. I think the kkklowns want to sh*t stir by claiming they have accessed things they probably haven't. Old tactic revived by people like this gang of thieves and assholes like the Chumpster.
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)FSogol
(45,446 posts)sus453
(164 posts)is not going after them because . . . ?
Baitball Blogger
(46,682 posts)Isn't cute how quickly they fight for equality issues?
Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)2naSalit
(86,323 posts)niyad
(113,049 posts)knows how to hack the govt computers? rigggggghhhht
blackspade
(10,056 posts)being white has its privileges...
niyad
(113,049 posts)Progressives and civil rights activists get the baton and the bullet.
Skittles
(153,111 posts)niyad
(113,049 posts)feel embarrassment. that clearly is not the case with these cretinous yahoos.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)niyad
(113,049 posts)says will not call them terrorists, because that would elevate their status to an unwarranted level.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)Seditious fucksticks myself....
niyad
(113,049 posts)Nihil
(13,508 posts)... are the leaders of the land and the members of the establishment who desperately
try to maintain the facade of equality before the law regardless of race, religion or wealth.
Every day of this farce is an embarrassment to the police, the FBI, the judiciary and every
politician of the land - big or small - who doesn't have the courage to denounce these
acts as wantonly criminal.
"... And Justice For All" ... Hah!