Sanders: Clinton 'in serious trouble'

[Omaha Steve]

Source: CNN

By Eric Bradner

Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders has an explanation for rival Hillary Clinton's increasing attacks on guns, taxes and more: Clinton is "in serious trouble."

The Vermont senator said Clinton is lashing out because polls show their race having tightened in Iowa while Sanders has maintained a narrow lead in New Hampshire.

"Secretary Clinton and her campaign is in serious trouble," Sanders told reporters Monday after a campaign stop in Pleasantville, Iowa.

"And I think a candidate who was originally thought to be the anointed candidate, the inevitable candidate, is now locked in a very difficult race here in Iowa and in New Hampshire," Sanders said. "So obviously in that scenario what people do is start attacking. Suddenly Bernie Sanders is not a nice guy. That is not surprising when you have a Clinton campaign that is now in trouble and now understands that they can lose."

FULL story at link.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/11/politics/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-in-serious-trouble/

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Well he is getting press now!

Donate to DU for Bernie here: https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/duforbernie

[Agschmid]

1. The more I've seen him campaign the more frustrated I get.

[JonLeibowitz]

3. Senator Richard Tarrant had the same reaction I bet. n/t

[Agschmid]

4. Your implication is?

[JonLeibowitz]

5. Frustration precedes defeat. N/t

[Agschmid]

7. And who are we defeating?

Because this primary is turning into scorched earth and all it defeats is the idea that anyone running is anything other than "just another politician".

America, fuck yeah.

[JonLeibowitz]

12. We are defeating conservatism. One way to do that is to reject candidates espousing such beliefs

Clinton, as a "New Democrat", embraces a political ideology too close to conservatism.

Bernie has been running a clean campaign, btw.

[Agschmid]

16. Using the term "anointed one" is not a clean campaign.

[JDPriestly]

32. That is the term used by many. We have a problem in that Hillary's supporters

and the press have assumed her win. Ain't necessarily so. Ain't necessarily so.

Americans are hungry for Bernie's message.

For example, Hillary offers growth as the solution to our economic problems. Bernie points out that growth alone without a log of income redistribution will only help those at the very top of our economy, the richest among us because in recent years, the benefits won through growth have been going disproportionately to the very rich.

Bernie's ideas and solutions on problem after problem, like his ideas on the economy, are just better and resonate better in voters.

Poor Hillary. I'm sorry if that makes Hillary supporters feel bad.

[Agschmid]

35. It's a ridiculous term.

I knew this was a competitive primary, I've been working my ass off canvassing and volunteering for months.

"Anointed one" belittles the efforts I and other volunteers have put in to the campaign.

[Ed Suspicious]

48. You'll probably get over it. "Just make sure you vote for the

Democratic candidate in the general." That's what front-runners say in my experience here at DU.

[gordyfl]

37. She "was" the anointed one

back in March - before Bernie Sanders came along...

[Agschmid]

38. There is another guy running heard of him?

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

17. Conservatism?

Or police state facism?

[wildbilln864]

36. much more accurate. thank you. n/t

[7962]

19. Exactly what "scorched earth" tactics has Sanders used?

If anything, he's given Hillary a pass on just about every negative story that comes out on her.
Unless by simply daring to oppose the anointed one is "scorched earth"

[Agschmid]

21. We haven't even started voting yet.

It's likely just going to get worse from both sides, not really all that motivating to me.

But I'll get through it.

[7962]

28. True. I'd say Sanders winning would actually lessen the RW attacks.

All they've got is the 'Socialist" cry. I've seen several commenting that "Bernie's a good man, he's just wrong for the country" or something to that effect. Thats it, thats all they have.
If its hillary, there's any one of 2 dozen different attacks i could see coming from the right

And you've got some really cool pictures on your page!

[Agschmid]

30. Thanks.

No matter what happens in this primary we all better be ready to work during the GE.

[Old Codger]

44. you bet

Regardless the primry outcome need a Dem in there...

[jmowreader]

67. His economic proposals are a HUGE problem

$15 per hour minimum wage WILL kill jobs. There are places where that's master's degree money.

Put aside the socialist thing (which, as you all know, I see as a major problem - remember guys, our two biggest "guaranteed" pickups - California and New York - contain enough Republicans to negate our vote if they all go to the polls) and start looking at what he plans to do: an unconstitutional plan to break up only a few banks instead of a very constitutional one to break them all up along functional lines, a job-killing doubling of the minimum wage regardless of a particular local economy's ability to absorb the increased pay, and a free-college-tuition plan funded by a tax he THINKS might produce enough revenue. "Tax-and-spend liberal" has always been a reliable attack against us, and it will be against Sanders.

[7962]

68. True, but that happens every 4 years. i meant something "new";

which there is a truckload of things about Hillary that we usually DONT see. The "tax & spend liberal" is a given. I understand your points and I agree. I've said here many times that "there arent enough rich people to tax" in order to pay for all this new stuff thats proposed. And an instant raise to 15 an hr will just bring order kiosks to ALL the fast food joints, not to mention that new burger flipper thats twice as fast as a human. I dont get how people dont understand that you cant just instantly double a wage without major consequences across the board; even affecting jobs that are already above minimum wage

[jmowreader]

69. What could be fun...

"You guys like to run around like your hair's on fire complaining about how Our Children are going to have to pay off all the debt we're running up? Fine. We're going to fix it. This is how.

"First, we're going to bring back the tax rates Ronald Reagan signed into law in August 1981. If they were good enough for Reagan they are good enough for you. Oh...and the top tax rate was 50 percent in that tax plan.

"Next, we're going to reduce the military budget by 25 percent. All of it's going to come out of new weapon system acquisition; the payroll and Operations and Maintenance budgets will remain untouched.

"Third, we're going to revamp the Capital Gains Tax system. Anyone who is 65 years or older will pay 15 percent capital gains tax, same as now. Anyone who buys a quality stock or an investment-grade bond directly from the issuing company will pay the 15-percent rate on that security when he or she sells it. Anyone who buys an investment from another investor, or buys some speculative garbage like derivatives, pink sheet stocks or junk bonds, will pay taxes at the same rate some poor bastard who loads manure into a wheelbarrow with a shovel would pay on his shit-shoveling wages. By the way kids, anyone who buys a credit default swap against a subprime mortgage he didn't write will get taxed at 85 percent just for pissing me off.

"We will spend 25 percent of the savings on infrastructure upgrades and the rest on deficit reduction. Once we've gotten the deficit down to $100 billion, we will then attack the national debt. We will not try to eliminate the deficit because the last time we pulled it off, there wasn't a politician in the land, of either party, who didn't want to go on a spending binge. One hundred billion is high enough to keep your attention and low enough that if we absolutely HAD to pay it off, we could.

"Your elected leaders will get into the fun too. I sat down with the leadership of both parties, and we agreed: Until the deficit is down to $100 billion and the debt down to $5 trillion, their pay will be down to $100,000 per year. As will the president's. There's not a one of us who won't make serious bank after we get out of office, so there's no real point in getting a head start while we're on the government payroll. And if any politician starts asking for funding that's not infrastructure-related - I mean, DIRECTLY infrastructure-related, not "we're building new curbs next to this taxpayer-funded Jesus statue, that's kinda infrastructurey" - that politician will be sent home on the next Greyhound Bus and all his shit will be mailed to him - postage due.

"Everyone here's on board with this, and we'll keep the misery down to the shortest time possible. Vote for me and we'll make it happen."

[7962]

72. I especially like the "just for pissing me off" part. Sounds like me.

BUT, going back to the rates of 81 would also bring back a lot of deductions that were done away with in his 2nd term. So 50% was rarely paid, just like when it was 90%. hardly anyone ever paid NEAR that %.

[jmowreader]

73. I can live with that

I am a great believer in the economic utility of loopholes.

I love these guys..."OMG you can deduct your business jet! We Must End This Loophole Right Now!" Well guess what kids? A business jet is a Tool To Make Your Business More Profitable. Very few people buy those things because they're too good to sit in coach with the hoi polloi. Most of the people who buy them do it because it lets their company make more money...which leads to more employees, which leads to higher tax revenues (not counting all the property taxes on the plane, fuel taxes on the Jet A at 165 gallons per hour...) which leads to me and you not having to sit next to some self-entitled asshole who's pissed at having to fly commercial...

The advantage of a high rate/high loophole tax structure like we had pre-Reagan is it gave rich people incentive to hire workers and invest in capital equipment - because those things are deductible.

My original thought was, let's run the rate up there and leave deductions where they are as a temporary emergency measure. I think within five years, with proper use of defense spending cuts and the increase in economic activity from all the new infrastructure this NON-revenue neutral measure will bring, we can pay down the deficit and debt to the point where we can bring back the loopholes.

[7962]

74. I think we're the only ones here who see this as a positive way to run the govt

Its always "the 1%" over and over all day. Nobody grasps the actual numbers involved here today

[gordyfl]

40. Richard Tarrant

Good one.

[Cassiopeia]

9. Yes, the coronation has been canceled.

The people want to have a primary.

I'm sure that is quite frustrating.

[Fast Walker 52]

22. uh, why?

[Agschmid]

29. Mosty because of the inconsistencies between what Jeff Weaver says, and what Sanders says.

[trueblue2007]

70. ME TOO BECAUSE i don't like listening to Sanders lie. Hillary is not in trouble and he knows it.

i will vote for either of our Democratic nominees. i don't like the lies.

[cantbeserious]

2. When We Stand Together - No Citizen Need Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go

eom

[wordpix]

75. I wouldn't say Hilary is a corporatist but her corporate tie$ are troubling

Bernie is the one to lead against the selling of America Go Bernie!

[Melissa G]

6. Black and Brown Forum...

Hillary wants a more vigorous debate.

Edit the news says Hillary will be there- Let's have that debate!

[antigop]

8. WOW! He actually referred to her as "the anointed candidate" and "inevitable"? nt

[7962]

23. I know. I was shocked as well. Maybe the campaign actually starts now.

She certainly thinks that is the case, why not call her out on it

[Lorien]

71. How else would you describe

the DNC's attitude toward Hillary?

[cleopotrick]

10. Loving the uptick in Bernie's usage of the third-person

[OilemFirchen]

11. In my experience...

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I'm not accustomed to a candidate with good internals making such a statement about his or her opposition. Contrarily, it's usually evidence of a lack of confidence on the part of the candidate making the claim. A misguided attempt to fire up the candidate's base which often redounds to the benefit of the opposition by firing up their base. Donald Trump notwithstanding, of course.

Sanders really needs a better team.

[PSPS]

14. I generally agree except, in this case, he was answering a specific question.

[Plucketeer]

18. So - he's come from NOWHERE

to making the queen-to-be quake in her boots.... And he needs a better team???

I would submit that your "experience" is not the norm for the vast majority of his (SanderS) advocates here.

[OilemFirchen]

43. I have absolutely no doubt...

that my experience is as you've described.

[Plucketeer]

60. Check out MoveOn.org today.

[OilemFirchen]

63. I get daily emails from them and have for years.

How is that relevant?

[greiner3]

64. I've been a member for years but you must be very special to get all those emails.

[OilemFirchen]

65. Guess so.

John Conyers loves me too.

[elias49]

20. You're talking about Clinton, right? nt

[OilemFirchen]

45. Has Clinton made any remarks as the health of the Sanders' campaign?

If so, could you direct me to such?

[DisgustipatedinCA]

57. Who the fuck is Sander?

[jalan48]

13. Enter Debbie Downer stage right, what new trick does she have up her sleeve?

Limited debates didn't seem to work nor did the "He's stealing Hillary's voter information!!!".

[7962]

26. Dont worry, there's plenty to come. What, I dont know.

But I do know WHO is involved so theres no doubt in my mind that the minions are hard at work

[Odin2005]

15. So much for the Clintonian Coronation!

[Plucketeer]

24. Oh - hello Ms. Schultz...

I understand you want to return this crown. Was there a problem with it, or did you just decide it's no longer needed?

[humbled_opinion]

25. This is nothing more than the people

using their frontal lobes to discern the outcome of a general election where the choice is between a nominee that is a seriously flawed candidate who has massive baggage, largely due to their own miscalculations and bad decisions that will have the repubs using misdirection, to talk about all of these transgressions vice the real problems facing the country. Flip side a candidate that wants to tear down the broken structure that benefits the few and replace it with a more self sustainable structure that actually pours down economic justice to the very many. Wow doesn't take rocket science to figure out the right one to vote for in the primary.

[Beacool]

27. Ahhhh, there's the politician.

Not so much above the fray anymore, huh? Let him strut around now, neither IA nor NH define the nation. It's a long battle and the fighting has just begun.

[morningfog]

31. Finally! You can't bear Hillary without getting in her mud with her

Glad we are finally getting there. Bernie held out a long time, far longer than I would have, but I think he got the timing right. Game on.

[Beacool]

34. I still think that she will be the nominee.

Let the chips fall where they may.

[kjones]

51. That his terminology is so similar to the blather we hear around here says something...

I think it says that he is aware of the crap slinging his supporters have been at for months,
and that he just doesn't really care. Maybe he just thinks it's a benefit overall...which sure
sounds like political calculus to me.
Always the perpetual victim though, he and his supporters get a free pass on pretty much
everything. If Hillary had made statements of an equivalent nature, this place would be
in an uproar. Me, I'm just happy he stopped pretending to be above it. I'm sure he, and
his supporters, will not get off their fabricated high horses though.

I suppose a lack of scrutiny is one of the benefits of not being a leading candidate though,
so enjoy it, I guess.

[grasswire]

53. strut???

LOL.

The idea of Bernie strutting is preposterous.

[WillyT]

33. Buckle Up...

[Thinkingabout]

39. Anyone who said or thinks Sanders has never changed in fofty years

Can see where he has started more attacks on Hillary, instead of saying Hillary is in serious trouble must be in serious trouble himself since his reasoning saying Hillary is in serious trouble by attacking is doing attacking himself. The nominee will not be decided with the first few primaries, there simply are not enough delegates to secure the nomination.

[zentrum]

41. Have donated my monthly. Go Bernie! n/t

[Metric System]

42. Serious trouble? Sanders comments do him no favors. He's the one who sounds desperate. Actually

he sounds a bit like Trump.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

47. Gee, why don't you compare him to Dubya?

It would make as much sense.

[Duval]

46. "So obviously in that scenario what people do is

start attacking". It's not easy to stay cool, calm and collected when your candidate is attacked. I'll be so glad when we have our nominee!

[azmom]

49. Clinton is in serious trouble. No doubt about

It.

[rury]

50. In trouble as she well deserves to be.

[Trajan]

52. Speaking truth ...

The reply count shows 51 ... I see 15 .... Not many happy campers in this room .... Hootin and hollerin, no doubt ...

Let me just scoot on outta here .... GO BERNIE !

[trillion]

54. WHAT THE HELL YOUR DONATE SITE LOOKS AS FAKE AS IT GETS

It's not updating at all since I donated. And I watched it go from 1125 to 1126 when I donated and I copied the graph - which is the same as yours on this page, and it hasn't changed. It is the same if you click on the site. You had this grap all along saying 1126 so me watching it go from 1125-1126- it rolled over when I donated, was FAKE.

It's not updating the donations. I refreshed. Where is my money going? Just because it says act blue and democratic underground doesn't mean it's this democratic underground.

Explain your donation site please?

[trillion]

55. What is actblue.com? I am so sorry I gave them my credit card number.

"Paid for by ActBlue (actblue.com) and not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee.

Contributions or gifts to ActBlue are not deductible as charitable contributions for Federal income tax purposes."

And here I thought I was donating to the Bernie Sanders Campaign.

[anigbrowl]

56. It's a donation aggregator. Your personal data is safe.

You can give to multiple candidates through a single portal instead of having to give your credit card data to a bunch of different individual campaigns every season. Actblue just passes the donations through. It's a legit organization and you don't need to be worried about the security of your card that I've ever heard of, but I agree with your criticisms about the way the site presents, it's a little too self-consciously stylish for its own good.

[Omaha Steve]

59. About us (Act Blue) has raised over 905 million for Dem's since 2004

https://secure.actblue.com/about

ActBlue is a non-profit, building fundraising technology for the left. Our mission is to democratize power and help small-dollar donors make their voices heard in a real way.

We develop top-of-the-line fundraising software and offer simple, intuitive tools to help campaigns and organizations on the left connect with new and existing grassroots donors. As a result, Democratic campaigns get more donations through ActBlue than any other platform. Together, we build powerful movements.

How do we make that happen? Well, first we test and retest our Contribution Forms to maximize conversion rates. We make it as easy as possible to give, no matter where the donor is, or on what device they’re using. And we make it free for campaigns and organizations — no tricks or add-ons. And with a top-notch tech team, our tools are always dependable, and we’re always working to upgrade them.

That’s why a majority of Democratic Senate and House campaigns — along with the DCCC, DSCC, DGA, over one-third of statewide campaigns, and advocacy organizations around the country — have chosen ActBlue.

But we’re so much more than a toolset.

Together, we’ve raised $905,464,333 dollars for Democrats and progressives in just 10 years. We’ve built more than just a fundraising platform. We’ve created the kind of grassroots power that can take on, and beat back, the power of corporate spending and secretive super PACs.

And that’s the difference that ActBlue makes to campaigns and the supporters who champion them.

The fine print we’re willing to shout from the rooftops:

ActBlue acts as a conduit federally and in most states, which means we provide the infrastructure for campaigns and organizations to fundraise online, but we don’t fundraise on behalf of anyone. Unlike groups that spend large sums of cash from undisclosed sources, ActBlue offers grassroots donors a way to give fully disclosed donations to the candidates and causes they choose.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

66. DUer trippin' over here on Aisle Five! Clean up trippin' DUer on Aisle Five! nt

[Omaha Steve]

58. Did you get a confirmation email?

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It takes about 10 minutes for the goal-o-meter to update. I can see there was one donation around your time frame. Bernie's site uses Act Blue too. We are the #4 money raiser with 1,127 donations for Bernie period.

OS

FULL list here: https://secure.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/39795

[trillion]

76. You missed the point of my post. I donated last week and it didn't update 1 whole number until about

the time of your post? Oh WOW , FOUR PEOPLE donated at all after me, up to this point. And really, it didn't move until I pointed it out. how dare someone question a donation tally! How dare they question a site that acts hokey! Actually, as a Systems Engineer, I think I will keep questioning. It's always worked for me so far.

[Omaha Steve]

77. I post results almost daily in the Bernie Group

A week ago? You didn't say that. Somehow your math is off or your dishonest.

Let us look at Dec 31st: http://www.democraticunderground.com/128091756

Hi there! On December 31st, 2015 you made a difference by raising funds at ActBlue.

---------------------------------
Your contribution forms
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Democratic Underground for Bernie 43 new contributions, totaling $1,138.00



At the close of the year (Dec 31) we had 1,075 donations totaling $38,366.35. I posted the numbers here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/128091690



My reply yesterday to you shows 1,127 donations totaling $40,126.51.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1311607



Tell me in email your donation number or your post looks as fake as it gets!

OS

[Omaha Steve]

78. This Organization Is Changing the Political Fundraising Game for Bernie Sanders, $35 at a Time

Hello?

http://www.thestreet.com/story/13417625/1/this-organization-is-changing-the-political-fundraising-game-for-bernie-sanders-35-at-a-time.html

By Emily Stewart | 01/12/16 - 10:04 AM EST

You receive an email from the Bernie Sanders campaign asking you to donate. Click on the link and you'll be redirected to a website called ActBlue, a powerful donations platform that is changing the way political fundraising is handled by liberals.

Since its 2004 launch, the Massachusetts-based organization has helped over 11,000 Democratic campaigns and progressive organizations raise upwards of $900 million. This election cycle, it has already seen record levels of donations, even though Election Day is still months away. On December 31, ActBlue received more than 150,000 contributions, marking its biggest donor day ever and surpassing the record set at the end of the previous quarter on September 30. The average contribution size in 2015: about $35.

"This is now how you fundraise on the left, you build these small-dollar communities," said Erin Hill, executive director of ActBlue.

For the Sanders campaign, ActBlue has been a particularly powerful partner. Go to the group's website and you will see the Sanders campaign featured. ActBlue promotes the most popular causes, determined by an algorithm -- and Sanders is the top fund-getter (Hill said the senator's campaign uses the platform for all of its small-dollar online fundraising). End Citizens United and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee are among the most popular recipients as well.

FULL story at link.

[trillion]

81. Look, I'm pro Bernie all the way, and donated through that site. Go to that site and look at the

numbers it's tallying. Now it's at 1151. I was number 1126. At least it's finally moving up - since I pointed it out. Am I to believe that several day stall was just nobody donating? Who knew I would be the last doner and for several days. Whatever.

[Omaha Steve]

82. You have my sincere apology

I misunderstood you post completely.

OS

[trillion]

85. You have my Sincere Apology also. I accept this is a legitamate site.

[SheilaT]

79. Do what I do. Donate directly through Bernie's own site.

Anything else is at best a vanity site.

[pugetres]

80. I've donated directly through his site, too.

And, donations through his site are processed through Act Blue. My donations to Working Families Party and Democracy for America also were processed through Act Blue.

If you create an account with them, you'll be able to see a complete list of your contributions that have been processed through them.

[Omaha Steve]

84. Act Blue links for Bernie's friends

All have endorsed Bernie and are working to help him.


Democratic Underground for Tom Fiegen for US Senate: https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/du4tom-fiegen


Democratic Underground for Tim Canova FL-23: https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/du4timcanova


DU for MoveOn: https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/du4moveon


DU 4 Keith Ellison MN-05: https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/du4keithellison


DU for Rep. Raul Grijalva AZ-03: https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/du4repgrijalvaaz-03


DU for DFA: https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/du4dfa


DU for David Sparks OH-43: https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/du4davidsparks-oh-43


DU for John Fetterman US Senate PA: https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/du4johnfetterman-us-senate-pa

[question everything]

62. Wait until after Nevada and S. Carolina (nt)