Armed group calls meeting to talk with Oregon community

[Judi Lynn]

Source: Associated Press

Armed group calls meeting to talk with Oregon community

Updated 11:29 pm, Tuesday, January 12, 2016



PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — The armed activists occupying a national wildlife refuge in southeastern Oregon said Tuesday that they plan to hold a community meeting this week to explain themselves and inform residents when they will leave.

A member of the anti-government group told reporters that the meeting will be held Friday evening in Burns, 30 miles from the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, The Oregonian newspaper reported (http://bit.ly/1RK65f6 ).

Arizona rancher Robert "LaVoy" Finicum said the location has yet to be determined. He said "there should be a dialogue" but declined to give any specifics about the group's exit plans.

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Ammon Bundy, the group's leader, has previously said the group would not leave until a plan was in place to turn over federal lands to local authorities. They also want the release of Dwight and Steven Hammond, father-and-son ranchers convicted of arson who returned to prison last week to serve longer sentences.

Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/science/article/Armed-group-calls-meeting-to-talk-with-Oregon-6753932.php

[Backwoodsrider]

1. Ammon does not have the public admiration he deserves

So he is calling meeting to try an 'splain things. Good luck lol

Really odd things is I have some friends who are facebook bombing about the urgent need to send supplies to those wonderful patriots fighting the feds in eastern OR so there are some people buying in to this drama. Hope this ends soon so we can all tune back in to the political presidential campaign implosion we got going on!

[JoeyT]

7. If your friends are anything like the ones doing it on mine,

I'm betting they were positively incensed that black people were briefly obstructing traffic a while ago, but 100% behind white people taking over a federal building.

[nsd]

2. How are these guys allowed to go back and forth as they please and ...

... communicate their manifesto or political jibberish with impunity?

Why haven't the police (1) cut off the power and the water, (2) canceled the landline and internet connections, (3) blocked the perpetrators' cell phone plans, (4) blocked anyone from entering the compound, and (5) arrested anyone trying to leave?

What are the police doing?

[davidpdx]

4. I tend to agree with you

The police are taking a sit back and wait approach hoping they'll get tired and cold and go home. While I don't support violence or confrontation, I do think some of those things you mentioned could put additional pressure on them.

I'm almost positive that there is technology to jam cell phones in a specific area. However if they were going to do that, as you said, they'd have to limit people from coming in and out.

Another fun possibility (though it would damage the building most likely) is to get one of those aircraft that drop water on fires and just fucking douse them with something. Sewer water would be my first choice.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

8. Can't they shoot some canisters of some gas that would put them all to sleep?

Then run in and handcuff them all. I see it in the movies all the time.

[davidpdx]

15. I think that would be considered an aggressive tactic and probably end with a gun fight

There is a good chance at least some of them have gas masks.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

16. Unless they sleep with them on - they'd be fucked it would happen so fast.

[Kennah]

19. "I see it in the movies all the time."

I believe I stumbled upon the flaw in the plan.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

20. That was my disclaimer.

[Kennah]

21. You bested me with sarcasm. I salute you.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

22. Right back at cha!

[Dont call me Shirley]

14. It's pretty obvious, they have friends in high places. They are being protected.

[Geronimoe]

3. An excellent oppurtunity for....

the outlaws to be arrested and jailed. If Homeland Security even exists. Some Gov aency might actuality do some work, occasionaly to justify their funding.

[newfie11]

6. Agreed!

[JDPriestly]

5. Why would the local community want to take over the reserve?

Right now, the federal government is paying the cost for maintaining the property. If the local government takes it over, say the county, won't the county have to pay for the upkeep?

Is the goal to end the bird sanctuary? I seriously doubt that the federal government is going to agree to do that.

What is the story on this?

Why do they want the property to go to the "locals," I presume the county. What difference does it make who is responsible for it?

Does the county want to do away with the bird reserve? Why? We have an Audobon park near our house. It is there for all of us. We love it. What is the story about Malheur?

Does anyone know?

I gather they are against protecting the environment, but why don't they understand how important it is to protect it? What is the problem?

[OnionPatch]

18. Are you kidding? There will be no "upkeep".

They want to run cattle on the land. I highly doubt they want to keep it accessible to the public for any other reason. They don't give a rat's ass about the endangered birds or the wildlife there. And no, they don't understand how important it is to protect the environment. If they did they wouldn't be there and they wouldn't be right wing lunatics in the first place.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

9. We can only hope there are lots of cameras and nobody shows up, except the nuts.

[TexasBushwhacker]

10. And the authorities

Time for some handcuffs. Enough is enough.

[L. Coyote]

11. What if you tried to start a revolution, and no one showed up? Or, no one rents you an auditorium?

Burns is about as likely to give these people a pulpit as they are to invite them into their homes for warmth and tea time.[center]

Les Zaitz ?@LesZaitz
UPDATE: "Every gun in the house is loaded." Burns residents detail intimidation that leaves them deeply afraid. http://bit.ly/1mU5XxR

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

12. I don't think they've got the support they think they have

"Fish and visitors begin to smell in three days." -- Ben Franklin

[jmowreader]

13. Sounds like a great time to pack that audience with armed National Guard infantrymen...

...and private citizens who've had it with the French Vanilla Mafia. They could arrest the entire gang at one time without firing a shot.

[yellowcanine]

17. County says no on using County fairgrounds or other county buildings

"We have a longstanding practice of allowing community groups to use county facilities," said Harney County commissioner Steven Grasty. "But we unfortunately now find ourselves in a place where the county must deny those facilities to any group that is supportive of, associated with, or on the behalf of the militants at the refuge."

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/01/oregon_standoff_harney_county_1.html

Maybe they can use Mormon church facilities.