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COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 12:17 PM Jan 2016

Venezuela’s Supreme Court Suspends the Opposition-Dominated Parliament

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Source: Yahoo News

So much for Chavismo's 'belief in democracy':

Roughly a quarter of the way into a multi-hour speech last week, Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro recalled a conversation he claimed to have had nine years ago with Hugo Chávez, his deceased predecessor. In Maduro’s telling, despite his electoral success, el Comandate had long harbored a secret desire to “break definitively” with the “old bourgeoisie structures of representation” that he felt distanced the government from the people. “This is a task we have still to carry out,” Maduro announced. Five days later, his government made good on that promise.

Over the past few days, tensions between the chavista government and the new opposition-dominated National Assembly, which was inaugurated last week after December’s landslide election, reached a fever pitch. On Monday, the constitutional chamber of Venezuela’s supreme court — which in over 45,000 decisions over the last dozen years has never ruled against the presidency — suspended the assembly and declared its leadership to be “in contempt” of the court’s authority.

It’s unclear what this determination means, since there is no constitutional basis for any of this. The supreme court claims that its ruling nullifies in advance any legislation the assembly might try to pass — unless the opposition acquiesces to the suspension of three of its legislators, whom the government accuses of buying votes in the remote state of Amazonas. The stakes are high, since the loss of even a single legislator could neutralize the opposition’s two-thirds supermajority, threatening its ability to reform the constitution or initiate a recall referendum against Maduro

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Venezuela’s Supreme Court Suspends the Opposition-Dominated Parliament (Original Post) COLGATE4 Jan 2016 OP
"So much for Chavismo's 'belief in democracy'"?! KamaAina Jan 2016 #1
A bias toward reality perhaps FBaggins Jan 2016 #5
Yes. I am strongly biased in favor of democratically COLGATE4 Jan 2016 #8
I do not disagree with the overall article KamaAina Jan 2016 #10
"The Imperial senate will no longer be of any concern to us. christx30 Jan 2016 #2
You win iandhr Jan 2016 #12
Wow. A Supreme Court Coup. Last time that happened was Florida 2000. yellowcanine Jan 2016 #3
If Maduro is being honest about this... Archae Jan 2016 #4
Gee, now it's a Dictatorship In Name!!! Nice that they've finally stripped away the patina of MADem Jan 2016 #6
Maduro has now gone full-blown commie Reter Jan 2016 #7
Link Eugene Jan 2016 #9
“break with the old bourgeoisie structures of representation” DetlefK Jan 2016 #11
Locking.. one_voice Jan 2016 #13
 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
1. "So much for Chavismo's 'belief in democracy'"?!
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 12:26 PM
Jan 2016

Got bias?

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
5. A bias toward reality perhaps
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 12:37 PM
Jan 2016

They have no desire to do more than pretend at democracy unless it temporarily serves their purpose.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
8. Yes. I am strongly biased in favor of democratically
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 12:49 PM
Jan 2016

elected institutions and governments which respect them.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
10. I do not disagree with the overall article
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 12:55 PM
Jan 2016

but that sentence is over-the-top biased.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
2. "The Imperial senate will no longer be of any concern to us.
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 12:28 PM
Jan 2016

I've just received word the Emperor has dissolved the council permanently. The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away."

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
12. You win
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 01:04 PM
Jan 2016

yellowcanine

(35,698 posts)
3. Wow. A Supreme Court Coup. Last time that happened was Florida 2000.
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 12:36 PM
Jan 2016

Thought I would say that before we get all high horsey about the Venezuelan political system.

Archae

(46,311 posts)
4. If Maduro is being honest about this...
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 12:36 PM
Jan 2016

(And I have my doubts based on Maduro's past lies...)

Then first Chavez, and now Maduro just don't like elected representatives.
They prefer rubber stamps, AKA "from the people."

Meanwhile Venezuela is going to hell in a handbasket, and Maduro and his cronies are so corrupt they stink on ice.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
6. Gee, now it's a Dictatorship In Name!!! Nice that they've finally stripped away the patina of
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 12:37 PM
Jan 2016

"Democratic" Bullshit they've been shopping all these years.

This is the beginning of the end. When Cuba doesn't need them anymore, they're toast.
 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
7. Maduro has now gone full-blown commie
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 12:45 PM
Jan 2016

He'll have no one to blame when the military overthrows him.

Eugene

(61,846 posts)
9. Link
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 12:49 PM
Jan 2016
http://news.yahoo.com/venezuela-supreme-court-suspends-opposition-164328644.html

Originally here: http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/01/13/venezuelas-supreme-court-suspends-the-opposition-dominated-parliament/

Since this article was posted, the three disputed opposition law makers have stepped down.
So the immediate conflict has been defused.

Venezuela suspended opposition legislators to stand down (BBC)

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
11. “break with the old bourgeoisie structures of representation”
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 12:58 PM
Jan 2016

He means a representation of the people except that the Representatives aren't elected?
Or a form of government where representation isn't based on a critical middle-class demanding to take part in the political process?


Oh, don't tell me.

Maduro wants the Caesar-system of Ancient Rome, when a dictator was coronated to speed up political decisions.

Or maybe the Soviet-system, where people get to form governing councils on a local level... except that somebody still has to make politics on a national level.

Or maybe the same system Gaddafi used: Local councils passing on their votes to a national parliament... except that this system is extremely prone to manipulation, gerrymandering and winner-takes-all.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libya#Independence.2C_Kingdom_of_Libya_and_Libya_under_Gaddafi_.281951-2011.29

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
13. Locking..
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 01:38 PM
Jan 2016

Doesn't meet SoP for LBN.

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