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MowCowWhoHow III

(2,103 posts)
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 03:53 PM Jan 2016

Juncker blames 'arrogant' refugees for re-housing policy failure (EU)

Source: The Telegraph

Jean-Claude Juncker, the president of the European Commission, on Friday blamed “arrogant” refugees for the failure of his policy to rehouse tens of thousands of migrants across the continent.

Mr Juncker rounded on national governments and migrants themselves for the collapse of an EU policy that was intended to relieve the burden of the migrant crisis by spreading 160,000 people around the bloc in a series of airlifts.

It has moved 272 people, including four to Lithuania and six to Belgium. Just 17 out of 28 EU states have volunteered any places.

Diplomats are angered because they warned – and it has proven to be the case – that the scheme could not work because of migrants’ resolute determination to reach only Germany and have no wish to be sent to the poorer east.

Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/belgium/12102472/Juncker-blames-arrogant-refugees-for-re-housing-policy-failure.html

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Juncker blames 'arrogant' refugees for re-housing policy failure (EU) (Original Post) MowCowWhoHow III Jan 2016 OP
If I were running away from war, I would be grateful to be settled anywhere in Europe. nt thereismore Jan 2016 #1
Many just want a better economic situation NobodyHere Jan 2016 #17
That's it. They want stuff and make it difficult for legitimate asylum seekers to get it. thereismore Jan 2016 #18
Scratching my head leftynyc Jan 2016 #2
Good point. 840high Jan 2016 #3
Your scratching your head Elmergantry Jan 2016 #4
If that's the case leftynyc Jan 2016 #8
Cologne attacks ‘nail in the coffin’ of EU refugee policy Dems to Win Jan 2016 #5
And that bad situation German is in christx30 Jan 2016 #6
It sounds like he's blaming the victims for his own failings Jack Rabbit Jan 2016 #7
By law, once you get to a safe place, christx30 Jan 2016 #10
Actual refugees to not get a choice of destination. branford Jan 2016 #11
I wish I could recommend your message. TexasMommaWithAHat Jan 2016 #16
Look at the accompanying photograph TexasMommaWithAHat Jan 2016 #9
Back in October christx30 Jan 2016 #12
Going on daily, I'm afraid. TexasMommaWithAHat Jan 2016 #14
Does anybody here watch DemocracyNow.org? trillion Jan 2016 #13
The people in the camps are not the people TexasMommaWithAHat Jan 2016 #15

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
18. That's it. They want stuff and make it difficult for legitimate asylum seekers to get it.
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 06:11 PM
Jan 2016

They are also biting the hand that feeds them, in some cases.
 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
2. Scratching my head
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 04:04 PM
Jan 2016

You would think any country offering them a life outside of a war zone would lead them to be just a bit grateful. I would offer them a place and if they turn it down, fuck it. Holy shit, when my relatives were fleeing Russia they didn't demand NY put them up on the Upper East Side - they lived where they could afford to live (as it happens, the lower east side). Then they learned English, went to school and got jobs. Am I supposed to be expecting something else from these refugees?

 

Elmergantry

(884 posts)
4. Your scratching your head
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 04:21 PM
Jan 2016

because your assumption is incorrect. They are "economic" migrants who are seeking the country with the best freebies---and that is in Germany.

 

Dems to Win

(2,161 posts)
5. Cologne attacks ‘nail in the coffin’ of EU refugee policy
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 04:35 PM
Jan 2016
Cologne attacks ‘nail in the coffin’ of EU refugee policy

http://www.politico.eu/article/cologne-attacks-nail-in-the-coffin-of-eu-refugee-policy-sexual-assault-hauptbahnhof/

The EU’s refugee policy is a failure and the mass sexual assaults in Cologne were a “nail in the coffin,” senior officials said Thursday.

In a bleak meeting with MEPs, Dimitris Avramopoulos, the top EU official in charge of migration, said a plan to relocate 160,000 refugees across Europe “does not work.” He added that if member countries “act on the pressure of the domestic agenda, it will fail.”

“I agree that it [the relocation program] has not delivered the expected results,” the migration commissioner said, adding that the scheme “can only give results when it will start working.”

snip....

Although Avramopoulos said he was “not very optimistic” about the future, he warned that the Schengen passport-free area must be protected. “If it collapses it will be the beginning of the end of the European project,” he said. “If borders are closed, the economy will be at stake.”


Germany, and the entire EU, is in a hella bad situation.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
7. It sounds like he's blaming the victims for his own failings
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 05:01 PM
Jan 2016

If a program that is supposed to move tens of thousands of refugees only moves a couple of hundred, then it sounds more like an organizational failure. I understand that most of the refugees wanted to go to Germany and that Germany could not handle that many, but did he try to give the refugees any say in the matter at all? Were the refugees asked about a second or third choice destination? Was there any communication here?

christx30

(6,241 posts)
10. By law, once you get to a safe place,
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 05:10 PM
Jan 2016

you go where you are offered. You have three choices. Go where they place you, go back the camp, or go back to the warzone.
Refugees are wearing out their welcome in Germany. And there isn't much space left, or tolerance from the native population.
Beggars can't be choosers.

 

branford

(4,462 posts)
11. Actual refugees to not get a choice of destination.
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 05:19 PM
Jan 2016

The belief by certain migrants and their supporters that such a choice exists in international or domestic laws is one of the primary reasons why any attempts to relieve the migrant mess is failing miserably in Europe.

Refugees, no less economic migrants, demand to be resettled in Germany, Sweden or other more generous social welfare countries may ultimately result in virtually all actual refugees, no matter how deserving, left to rot in war zones or squalid camps for the foreseeable future, or worse, the collapse of the Schengen Zone and the rise of the far right throughout Europe.

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
9. Look at the accompanying photograph
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 05:02 PM
Jan 2016

Where are the women and children?

This is a mass invasion of mostly migrants looking to move up in the world. They arrive wearing nice clothes and carry cell phones.

And I think Germany is expecting another million + this year.

Gees

There's a lot of Brits very thankful for the English Channel, right now, and truck drivers going through Calais say they fear for their safety. sigh This is a mess.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
12. Back in October
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 05:19 PM
Jan 2016

There were a lot of stories on DU about these people trying to get through the Chunnel illegally. They were hiding in trucks, armed with knives.
That stuff is probably still going on.

 

trillion

(1,859 posts)
13. Does anybody here watch DemocracyNow.org?
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 05:28 PM
Jan 2016

I'm getting a whole different story from them.

Let's think about Europe, or any country for a moment - every single county has an extreme right wing that can't stand refugees and are all out racists to Muslims.

What makes you think Jean-Claude Juncker, the president of the European Commission isn't a right winger? If you've followed DemocracyNow.org you would have already been introduced to people in the European Union who are right wing and racist and left wing and wanting to help the refugres. In fact most have leaned far right. They don't want to spend a dime on the refugees.

I'll stick with democracynow.org because they've gone into the camps to interview refugees and they've interviewed the people helping and the people against refuges.

I'm breaking my promise to myself by posting or even coming to this site because of the Mulsim blanket statements that seem to prevail here.

Please check out other progressive sites. They would only improve this one.

DemocracyNow.org has a daily news world report that is highly regarded in countries all over the world. I mean it's clear nobody here has ever watched it or a lot of what is being said here would have whole different angles and honestly, people would be better informed. I mean there are people here who just learned "thug" is a racist word now-a-days and are mad that anyone would accept it as one. They're 2.5 - 3.5 years behind. Just saying.

Okay, bye.

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
15. The people in the camps are not the people
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 05:33 PM
Jan 2016

invading Europe. The people in the camps are legitimate war refugees, and deserving of help. I'm glad we will take in families from the camps here in the U.S. I recently listened to a program on BBC, and the situation in the camps is getting dire.

Europe shot itself in the foot when it let this invasion of mostly men, mostly economic migrants cross their borders. They're stuck with them, now.

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