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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 05:16 PM Jan 2016

"American Pie" singer arrested on domestic violence charge

Source: CBS News

CAMDEN, Maine -- A jail supervisor says "American Pie" singer Don McLean has been arrested on a misdemeanor domestic violence charge in Maine.

Cpl. Brad Woll says McLean was arrested and posted $10,000 bail early Monday at the Knox County Jail.

The 70-year-old singer-songwriter lives in Camden, Maine. A message left for the police chief there by The Associated Press was not immediately returned. Police responded to his home shortly after 2 a.m. for a 911 call. The victim of the assault did not require hospital treatment, police told CBS affiliate WGME.

Woll says he did not know if McLean had a lawyer. A message seeking comment was left through the singer's website. A phone number listed under his name rang unanswered.

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/american-pie-singer-don-mclean-arrested-on-domestic-violence-charge/



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"American Pie" singer arrested on domestic violence charge (Original Post) Miles Archer Jan 2016 OP
Yikes. Smarmie Doofus Jan 2016 #1
Give him life with no parole Adenoid_Hynkel Jan 2016 #2
No kidding! What a crap song. I've never understood why Still In Wisconsin Jan 2016 #4
Because it is fun to sing. MADem Jan 2016 #10
Nostalgia ain't what it used to be... mpcamb Jan 2016 #18
Cherry Pie is a better song snooper2 Jan 2016 #44
Easier to sing, certainly. MADem Jan 2016 #45
You wouilda had to be there at the time.........n/t dixiegrrrrl Jan 2016 #22
Agreed Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #27
It is a reference to this. SusanCalvin Jan 2016 #28
It was only years later when I heard about the connection between the song Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #29
I've had the exact same thing happen. SusanCalvin Jan 2016 #30
The later years? Whole many of the song references were obscure, 1monster Jan 2016 #35
I didn't understand it at the time Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #51
Not necessarily......... Dyedinthewoolliberal Jan 2016 #52
Is that sneering born perhaps of professional jealousy? - nt KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #23
Maybe because it's really long Politicub Jan 2016 #69
This one? 1monster Jan 2016 #6
Oh, god! Vincent! Oh, OUCH. It's time someone paid Don back for that one. Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #13
I hate lots of songs other people like William Seger Jan 2016 #15
Pipe the muzak version into his cell. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #16
So, have you done better? If so, as they say, 1monster Jan 2016 #20
Kanye West Syndrome (n/t) William Seger Jan 2016 #33
You speak for many! Thank you. n/t Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #11
yup. JI7 Jan 2016 #17
Glad I scrolled down awoke_in_2003 Jan 2016 #50
When I was maybe 10 cannabis_flower Jan 2016 #53
Them good ole boys were drinking whiskey 'n rye, perhaps??? MADem Jan 2016 #3
Yep! elleng Jan 2016 #8
Why do I need to know this? I simply do not care. YOHABLO Jan 2016 #5
Why do we need to know you don't care? elias49 Jan 2016 #7
I'm losing my mind! I just sang 3 or 4 bars of that dreadful song elias49 Jan 2016 #9
OMG! He's been slimed. And you! Using your doggie's ear as a song trash can. n/t Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #12
Mea freakin culpa Duncan elias49 Jan 2016 #14
Did he start growling? nomorenomore08 Jan 2016 #66
Sad to hear. GeorgeGist Jan 2016 #19
He should've been prosecuted for chapdrum Jan 2016 #21
Not a big fan of Buddy Holly or the Big Bopper, I take it? - nt KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #24
With nothing relevant or substantive to add, I'd pretend that's relevant, too. LanternWaste Jan 2016 #42
Sometimes people just get under other peoples nerves (often on purpose) nolabels Jan 2016 #25
Speak for yourself. Most people criticizing him haven't engaged in domestic violence. LeftyMom Jan 2016 #57
I need a therapist? nolabels Jan 2016 #58
How precisely does beating a woman illustrate him as just another human? LanternWaste Jan 2016 #59
What source do you have he beat or struck someone multiple times? nolabels Jan 2016 #60
If not assault, what then specifically were you referring to that makes him more human LanternWaste Jan 2016 #61
Okay then, I feel sad for the both of them. nolabels Jan 2016 #62
I'm yet still wondering what specifically you were referring to that "makes him more human LanternWaste Jan 2016 #63
Was it the syntax or was it the imperfect way words do not always convey a feeling ? nolabels Jan 2016 #64
Hoping this will not be the day that he dies n/t Kennah Jan 2016 #26
He was called Cartoonist Jan 2016 #31
Nixon was at his best when he was just being "himself," as in when he would go bowling: Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #34
He's Fouling In That Bowling Photo ProfessorGAC Jan 2016 #36
I noticed the foot foul too, the first time I saw that pic! MADem Jan 2016 #46
And who wears a suit cannabis_flower Jan 2016 #54
Someone who just doesn't feel comfortable in their own skin, and needs a suit (of armor) to MADem Jan 2016 #55
He's in for a world of pain FrodosPet Jan 2016 #65
I really loathe his work, but could we not revel in his sad story? DU is better than this. Indepatriot Jan 2016 #32
I posted in it, I didn't fucking revel in it Miles Archer Jan 2016 #40
I was indeed speaking of the jokes about him, not the item posted. Domestic Abuse is NEVER funny. Indepatriot Jan 2016 #41
Vincent is one of my favorite songs of all time. Kurska Jan 2016 #37
One of my favorite songs, too. Very literate. mainer Jan 2016 #38
It's a beautiful song, and a masterpiece of songwriting William Seger Jan 2016 #43
I'm a young guy myself, but I really respect a lot of the older singer-songwriters. Kurska Jan 2016 #48
McLean, Simon/ Garfunkel, etc. are poets mainer Jan 2016 #49
Should be noted he's charged with "simple assault," NOT battery. mainer Jan 2016 #39
He could have been yelling at his buddy bogarting that joint...we just do not know the details. MADem Jan 2016 #47
I prefer to hear both sides of the story Skittles Jan 2016 #56
But if the news had been that he had died, tavernier Jan 2016 #67
Houston next Friday w/ Judy Collins TexasBushwhacker Jan 2016 #68

MADem

(135,425 posts)
45. Easier to sing, certainly.
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 04:16 PM
Jan 2016

American Pie is a pub crawl song--has to be sung at each pub before going on to the next. Gets harder to remember all those words as the evening wears on!

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
27. Agreed
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 10:27 PM
Jan 2016

I can especially relate to the line "February made me shiver, with every paper I'd deliver..."
The absolute worst day I had as a paperboy was on a cold Sunday morning in February, when it was too slippery to ride my bicycle and the newspaper had a huge special edition to boot, so I had to make two trips to deliver all my papers, on foot. And while I was listening to my portable transistor radio to take my mind off my increasingly frozen feet, that was one of the songs that was played.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
29. It was only years later when I heard about the connection between the song
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 11:02 PM
Jan 2016

and that fateful February plane crash which took the lives of Richie Valens, Buddy Holly and The Big Bopper. At the time, though, I felt that song was actually talking to me about my experience with shivering while delivering papers

1monster

(11,012 posts)
35. The later years? Whole many of the song references were obscure,
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 07:09 AM
Jan 2016

the one thing everyone seemed to understand from the beginning was that "the day the music died" was the plane crash that killed Buddy Holly.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
51. I didn't understand it at the time
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 06:43 AM
Jan 2016

I probably didn't even know who Buddy Holly was at the time.
I had no idea of what "the day the music died" was all about, but I always thought that when he sang that he drove his "Chevy to the levee", it meant that he wanted to drive his klunker into the river

Judi Lynn

(160,466 posts)
13. Oh, god! Vincent! Oh, OUCH. It's time someone paid Don back for that one.
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 06:50 PM
Jan 2016

It still makes you sick, just remembering it.

Triggers the gag reflex every time.

Haven't heard "Empty Chairs," never knew it existed.

You have tempted us to see how it goes, out of curiosity, as if it's going to be the song he did which is OK. What are the chances.

We have to walk away, no matter how curious we are to see if he ever did one which didn't suck as bad as the others.

1monster

(11,012 posts)
20. So, have you done better? If so, as they say,
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 08:06 PM
Jan 2016

put up or ....

I'll never understand those who pan others works. I don't care for country music, but I can appreciate that others do and not mock their choices.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
50. Glad I scrolled down
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 09:43 PM
Jan 2016

I was going to say he should have been locked up after releasing the worst and most annoying song ever written

cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
53. When I was maybe 10
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 10:13 AM
Jan 2016

My sister and I were at our cousins and she had a single called "Leader of the Pack".



My sister played it so much that my cousin told her she could have it if she stopped playing it.

Later, at home, she played it over and over. My brother who was like two at the time stepped on it and broke it. I saw him but wasn't close enough to stop him. But my sister blamed it on me because I hated that song.

Also, another annoying song was Afternoon Delight.

 

elias49

(4,259 posts)
9. I'm losing my mind! I just sang 3 or 4 bars of that dreadful song
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 06:27 PM
Jan 2016

into my dog Duncan's big black lab ear!
Oh, woe is me.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
42. With nothing relevant or substantive to add, I'd pretend that's relevant, too.
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 03:29 PM
Jan 2016

With nothing relevant or substantive to add, I'd pretend that's relevant, too.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
25. Sometimes people just get under other peoples nerves (often on purpose)
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 10:01 PM
Jan 2016

If you mix a little booze in the equation then what would you expect to happen. Yea and all rest of us that would criticize another for it have never done it our selves

Cool music and i think better of him now because i know he just another human like the rest of us

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
57. Speak for yourself. Most people criticizing him haven't engaged in domestic violence.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 02:58 AM
Jan 2016

And no, you don't get to be violent with people, even if you're liquored up or even if they "get on your nerves," on purpose or otherwise. If you think BETTER of somebody for that behavior or consider it to be normal, you really need to see a therapist before you hurt somebody or wind up in prison.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
59. How precisely does beating a woman illustrate him as just another human?
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 12:38 PM
Jan 2016

How precisely does beating a woman illustrate him as just another human?

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
60. What source do you have he beat or struck someone multiple times?
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 01:19 PM
Jan 2016

Being arrested for anything does not in it's self indicate one is guilty of anything. I once made a mistake to marry a woman who was a borderline alcoholic. After the bar would close she would come home at night while i was sleeping and attack me. Sometimes she wouldn't even be that drunk but somehow, very often, she just felt like she had some kind of business that she needed to finish.

Nothing life threatening for me, but being pummeled while asleep is not the best thing to wake up to. I do not know the story of what happened to this singer but do have some idea he is probably not going to get convicted of any gross crime against humanity

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
61. If not assault, what then specifically were you referring to that makes him more human
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 01:27 PM
Jan 2016

If not assault, what then specifically were you referring to that makes him more human to you?


"What source do you have he beat or struck someone multiple times?" His wife.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
62. Okay then, I feel sad for the both of them.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 02:10 PM
Jan 2016

I don't know the story of what happened or what led up to it. I was only making an assumption t that he is an ordinary human with frailties and lapses in judgment that all us have had to deal with. If that makes me wrong to assume that in your belief system then i am sorry because that is just how i feel and think about it.

Violence is an idea fostered in the culture we live in. The paradox seems to me is how someone who delivered such music could devolve to this level. Welcome to the world in which we live

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
63. I'm yet still wondering what specifically you were referring to that "makes him more human
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 02:13 PM
Jan 2016

I'm yet still wondering what specifically you were referring to that "makes him more human" to you, regardless of the irrelevancies of my belief system.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
64. Was it the syntax or was it the imperfect way words do not always convey a feeling ?
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 02:29 PM
Jan 2016

When you are a young teenager and you grow up idolizing pop stars for music that helps you personally understand your own feelings then things can come up as a result. When you are young and impressionable then some of these people get rationalized in ways they shouldn't (but do regardless). Not that Don Mclean was one of those but when you only know them by the music that they made then that limited sample tends to skew the reality

Judi Lynn

(160,466 posts)
34. Nixon was at his best when he was just being "himself," as in when he would go bowling:
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 01:09 AM
Jan 2016

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or taking a stroll on the beach,



or playing a lovely tune on his piano.

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ProfessorGAC

(64,877 posts)
36. He's Fouling In That Bowling Photo
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 09:21 AM
Jan 2016

His toe is over the line. Don't matter what the ball did. He gets a zero! Good

MADem

(135,425 posts)
46. I noticed the foot foul too, the first time I saw that pic!
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 04:19 PM
Jan 2016

Who bowls in a tie?

That poor basstid was just UNCOMFORTABLE in his own skin....!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
55. Someone who just doesn't feel comfortable in their own skin, and needs a suit (of armor) to
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 05:05 PM
Jan 2016

keep those insecurities at bay!

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
40. I posted in it, I didn't fucking revel in it
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 01:42 PM
Jan 2016

And DU is not better than me. I assume your comments were not directed at me. If so, no harm, no foul. If they were, "have a nice day."

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
37. Vincent is one of my favorite songs of all time.
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 10:53 AM
Jan 2016

Always reminds me of my first boyfriend.

Hope more comes to light about this, but that said merely the accusation of domestic violence is very serious. Domestic violence is certainly a hidden scourge in our society.

mainer

(12,018 posts)
38. One of my favorite songs, too. Very literate.
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 11:48 AM
Jan 2016

How many popular songwriters have written about Vincent Van Gogh?

William Seger

(10,775 posts)
43. It's a beautiful song, and a masterpiece of songwriting
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 04:01 PM
Jan 2016

I'm not sure why people who don't like it think we should care.

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
48. I'm a young guy myself, but I really respect a lot of the older singer-songwriters.
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 04:26 PM
Jan 2016

Nowadays everyone seems to just want something they can dance to, meh.

mainer

(12,018 posts)
49. McLean, Simon/ Garfunkel, etc. are poets
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 04:42 PM
Jan 2016

who also write music. Plus, they work magic with guitar chords.

I agree that some of these new songwriters are just going for the dance beat.

mainer

(12,018 posts)
39. Should be noted he's charged with "simple assault," NOT battery.
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 11:50 AM
Jan 2016

Assault can be merely verbal threatening. That he was not charged with battery means that no physical violence actually ensued.

Also, it's not clear that his wife and kids were even in the residence at the time. He has domestic staff -- perhaps an argument ensued with one of them?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
47. He could have been yelling at his buddy bogarting that joint...we just do not know the details.
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 04:21 PM
Jan 2016

"Domestic" violence refers to violence in the home--usually between occupants of said home.

tavernier

(12,370 posts)
67. But if the news had been that he had died,
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 08:00 PM
Jan 2016

everyone would be posting crying smilies, singing his praises for his music and lyrics, and holding up smilie candles.

Jeesh... this place, sometimes...



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