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shawn703

(2,702 posts)
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 05:23 PM Jan 2016

Donald Trump, Bernie Sanders hold solid leads in Iowa, CNN/ORC poll finds

Source: CNN

Washington (CNN)Donald Trump holds a commanding lead in Iowa as Sen. Bernie Sanders takes control of the Democratic race in the critical first-in-the-nation voting state, according to a new CNN/ORC poll released Thursday.

Trump leads Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, who is in second place in the GOP race, among likely Republican caucus-goers, 37% to 26%. Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Florida, is in third at 14%, the only other Republican in double digits. Ben Carson failed to register half of Rubio's support and is in fourth place at 6%.

Sanders, meanwhile, has opened up an eight-point lead over Democratic rival Hillary Clinton, leading her in Iowa 51% to 43% among likely Democratic presidential caucus-goers.

The sampling is key for both leaders: Only including voters who previously caucused in their party's most recent competitive caucus, Cruz is neck-and-neck with Trump, with 30% for Cruz to 28% for Trump. Rubio is steady at 16% in that sample.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/21/politics/iowa-poll-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-donald-trump-ted-cruz/index.html

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Donald Trump, Bernie Sanders hold solid leads in Iowa, CNN/ORC poll finds (Original Post) shawn703 Jan 2016 OP
Bernie!! AzDar Jan 2016 #1
Emerson and Monmouth have her leading by 9. Dawson Leery Jan 2016 #2
PANGAIA Polling Services has Bernie by 23. pangaia Jan 2016 #4
CNN is a live poll; Gravis and KBUR/Monmouth polling uses the controversial robo-call polling method Attorney in Texas Jan 2016 #12
Yaaay! AND retrowire Jan 2016 #3
Well Robbins Jan 2016 #5
Very similar candidates Thenewire Jan 2016 #6
You are foul. nt stillwaiting Jan 2016 #7
Please share you ideas.... tabasco Jan 2016 #15
Long time lurker SheenaR Jan 2016 #8
One minute Sanders is in the lead. Next minute Hillary's in the lead. mainer Jan 2016 #9
Sampling methodology... hoosierlib Jan 2016 #10
Impossible, the Shillarians told us that Bernie is un-electable!!! Odin2005 Jan 2016 #11
Grow up.... n/t tabasco Jan 2016 #16
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2016 #13
It's a hurricane! Come on Iowa! Get er done! ViseGrip Jan 2016 #14
Except for the polls that show Hillary leading. onehandle Jan 2016 #17

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
12. CNN is a live poll; Gravis and KBUR/Monmouth polling uses the controversial robo-call polling method
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:37 PM
Jan 2016

that has a huge in-house pro-Trump and pro-Clinton effect (I have not seen a convincing explanation for this, but the effect is well documented).

This explains why you see CNN polling that shows Sanders leads in Iowa and New Hampshire with contemporaneous polls from Gravis and Monmouth that show Clinton ahead in Iowa and a tighter race in New Hampshire.

If you do nothing other than exclude robo-call polls from the Pollster aggregator, Sanders is ahead in Iowa and Sanders is comfortably up by double-digits in New Hampshire:





It does Clinton no favors to set her expectations in Iowa based on robo-call polls because, historically, falling short of expectations is almost worse than losing in Iowa.

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
8. Long time lurker
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 05:38 PM
Jan 2016

Getting tired of it all.. But just wanted to share...

Monmouth COLLEGE and Emerson College have a grand total of 3 polls ever to their names as recorded by Project FiveThirtyEight. So keep touting those. Meanwhile CNN/ORC received an A- rating for their work and accuracy

[link:http://fivethirtyeight.com/interactives/pollster-ratings/|

mainer

(12,022 posts)
9. One minute Sanders is in the lead. Next minute Hillary's in the lead.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 05:53 PM
Jan 2016

I just don't trust what any poll says now.

And has that new Bernie TV ad run in Iowa yet? Have we seen post-ad polls?

 

hoosierlib

(710 posts)
10. Sampling methodology...
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:13 PM
Jan 2016

The projected size and composition of the electorate are the main differences between the polls. The Monmouth / KBUR poll assumes more older voters and lower overall outcome than the CNN poll. Who is right? No way to know, but it's probably somewhere in the middle (i.e. a tie)...

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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
17. Except for the polls that show Hillary leading.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 08:47 PM
Jan 2016

No matter what, they will get around 50% each in NH and Iowa.

Seeing that Hillary has a solid lead in over 90% of states, I wouldn't get tooooooo excited.

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