Justice Ann Walsh Bradley: Uncle who served at Iwo Jima unable to vote
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Source: jsonline.com
Madison A state Supreme Court justice on Tuesday urged Gov. Scott Walker to allow people to use veterans ID cards to vote after her uncle who fought at Iwo Jima was unable to cast a ballot in last week's primary election.
"It makes no sense to me that this proud patriot with a veterans card displaying his photo would be turned away from the polls and denied the right to vote," Justice Ann Walsh Bradley wrote to the Republican governor.
In her letter, Bradley said her uncle had fought at Iwo Jima, the bloody World War II battle that was immortalized in a photo of the U.S. flag being raised on the tiny Pacific island.
Tuesday marked the 71st anniversary of the 1945 flag raising.
Bradley's uncle, Leo Olson of Reedsburg, tried to use his veterans ID card to vote in last week's primary for a seat on the state Supreme Court, but that form of identification can't be used under the state's voter ID law.
Olson does not have a driver's license.
Read more: http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/justice-ann-walsh-bradley-uncle-who-serve-at-iwo-jima-unable-to-vote-b99675630z1-369874061.html
renate
(13,776 posts)There aren't words for how ridiculous that is.
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)I am tired of our corrupt courts letting these voter I.D. Laws stand when the transparent action is to disenfranchise specific groups of Americans their right to vote!
FailureToCommunicate
(14,012 posts)Koch-funded Scott Walker, and his kind, must go away.
That poor Veteran.
jpak
(41,757 posts)yup
Liberal Unrelenting
(28 posts)Disgraceful!
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,393 posts)Who issued it? If it's issued by the Veterans Administration for purposes of providing health care, it should have a photograph of the bearer on it. Any government-issued photo ID ought to work for voting.
I am not in a position to access the original article.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)It has a photo, but is not enough for the fascist voting law in Wisconsin.
sarge43
(28,941 posts)The only possible objection could be the photo. Depending upon the time span, the photo could have no resemblance to the individual. Mine doesn't; forty some years have had their way with me.
For the record, a military id is honored in NH.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,393 posts)When I was on active duty, which was over forty years ago, I had a green card. When my active duty obligation was up, I gave up my green card and got a red card in exchange. It was good enough to get me on base and into a PX or Navy Exchange. Both were photo IDs. At that time , I was in the Reserves. When that obligation ran out, I ended up with no card. That's where I am today.
The only thing people want to see to establish my veteran status is my DD214.
In theory, I suppose I could turn to the VA for medical care (I'm not sure), but it would represent a tremendous misuse of the system.
Thanks for the information.
sarge43
(28,941 posts)The 214 is the go to for any veteran benefits.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)The VA photo ID is only issued to qualified veterans, i.e. retired or disability.
Non-retired/disability vets don't get any kind of photo ID for just leaving the service.
sarge43
(28,941 posts)tabasco
(22,974 posts)I thought a sarge was some kind of fish. An old NCO should know something about that, eh?
sarge43
(28,941 posts)We called worse, sometimes for good reason.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)However, these government issued IDs do not have expiration dates. The jerks who drafted this legislation threw in the date requirement because a lot of university/college IDs do not have expiration dates, so this would block some students (who didn't have drivers licenses) from voting.
The vets without drivers licenses were collateral damage in this legislation.
Plus people to poor to own cars do not have drivers licenses. So this requirement keeps them out of the polling booths as well.
uhnope
(6,419 posts)DONE DONE DONE
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Divernan
(15,480 posts)The requirement was for photo IDs with expiration dates. When the state supreme court decision was pending, during the general election of 2012, some idiot lower court judge (and I say that advisedly, as an attorney myself) ruled that poll workers had to ask each voter for the ID as provided for under the challenged law, but if voters didn't have such an ID they could vote on the machines anyway. We (I'm also a judge of elections) had to therefore advise every single voter when they signed in, that we were required to ask to see ID, explain the convoluted mess in our legislature/court system, and then assure them that they could vote anyway. Idiotic, time consuming and pointless.
The proposed law, since overturned, required a photo ID with an expiration date, like a driver's license. I mean we're talking a goddamned PHOTO. So what if it's expired - is there a rebuttable presumption that someone had plastic surgery to assume another identity?!?!?!
One of our regular voters is a wheelchair bound vet. He does not drive so does not have the state driver's license w/photo and expiration date. So when I explained to him that if the new law was eventually upheld by the state supreme court, he'd need a photo ID, he said, "All I have is this. He handed me his VA medical card, which had his photo on it. OH , but the horrors! It didn't have an expiration date! Of course, it did identify him as a Purple Heart winner.
I had to tell him, "Thank you for your sacrifices. Unfortunately, the Republican majorities in the two chambers of the Pennsylvania legislature do not feel you should be allowed to vote. It may happen that next election, depending on what the state supreme court decides, that you wouldn't be able to vote. You need to find someone with a van that can handle your wheelchair to drive you to one of the state driver's licensing facilities, check to see which days/hours it is open, take time off from their job, and be prepared to sit there and wait with you for several hours while you get an official Pennsylvania state non-driver's photo ID card. (Some of our licensing centers are open 2 days a week.)
Plus you will need to obtain a certified copy of your birth certificate to present to the state office. If you are female and no longer use the name on your birth certificate, you will need a certified copy of your marriage license. Of course you have to pay various fees for these certified copies, plus the new id, plus the cost of transportation - i.e., a goddamned POLL TAX!
Obtaining a new ID card
To apply for an ID, first, you should plan a visit to your local DVS.
You will need to provide one primary document and two secondary documents. The fee to obtain an ID in Pennsylvania is $13.50 for both children and adults. (Note: You must be at least 10 years old to obtain a Pennsylvania ID card)
Provide:
Birth certificate
Certificate of Naturalization
Certificate of Citizenship
Social Security card
Mortgage documents
Tax records
Current utility bills
About Fees: Pennsylvania DVSs accept checks or money orders. Cash is not accepted.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)Democrats support taking care of our veterans, who have sacrificed a lot. Obama has funded the VA better than any president in history.
Herself
(185 posts)I've got good buddies that are anti Obama, and though I love my brothers, I have had to take proof and shove it down their throats..
Obama helped reserve troops/Veterans better too.
My brother is a Vietnam era Vet. He was denied his Vet benefits, and asked for congressmen to help him.. they blew him off. But! A first lady did help him. He got a letter from her and it informed him that he would get his service connected benefits.. it was signed by Hillary R. Clinton!
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)There's a lot more wrong with this than a guy trying to use an ID that had been widely warned to be inadequate.
This wasn't an old guy without relatives who know the law or have resources to get him to a DMV station for a FREE state ID. Imagine how hard it is for people without relatives, people whose relatives aren't politically aware, people without folks who could provide transport.
I really hate this law.
BooScout
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