MSU poll shows Clinton has slim lead over Sanders
Source: WLNS (Michigan CBS affiliate)
EAST LANSING, Mich (WLNS) A new poll out of Michigan State University shows it may be a very close Primary race in Michigan between Democrats Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders.
The winter State of the State survey shows Clinton has a five point lead over Sanders.
However its not a big enough lead to discount a possible Sanders victory tomorrow with results well within the surveys margin of error.
Read more: http://wlns.com/2016/03/07/msu-poll-shows-clinton-has-slim-lead-over-sanders/
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Red Oak
(697 posts)NowSam
(1,252 posts)You were underpolled and can close the gap and make this a win for the future if you show up. Please please please get to the polls and vote for Bernie.
If Bullhorn Bill shows up don't let them keep you from voting. It is your right. If the polling place is on Lockdown for hours because Mr. Clinton shows up and his S.S. detail keeps people out than demand that you get to vote and in a timely manner.
This is your country, kids. Don't trust the machine. Take it over and make it your government again.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)another stunt like that?
And then there is NAFTA and all the big, fat, fucking LOSS of jobs in Michigan thanks to him...
Get out and VOTE for Bernie Michigan!
Do you really want a repeat of more job killing from another Clinton?
NowSam
(1,252 posts)JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,321 posts)... when you have the Secret Fucking Service to keep you from being arrested, or even questioned.
Cavallo
(348 posts)Notice the Hillary supporters are voting the opposite way as them.
vdogg
(1,384 posts)Poll is weeks old. So old in fact it doesn't factor into 538's forecast. Polls that have come out today and yesterday show Hillary leading by double digits and her lead widening. http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/michigan-democratic/
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)was 3/3. 538 has more recent polls than that with SOS Clinton having double digit leads.
Qutzupalotl
(14,286 posts)With an open primary, independents and Republicans can cross over to vote for a sane alternative to the clown car. And Bernie (and now Clinton) are appearing on Fox News' town hall today!
phazed0
(745 posts)Yesterday, Michigan polling had Clinton +17... today, +5. Ouch.
Go Bernie!
Yesterday it was plus 17, on March 3rd it was plus 5. OP is being misleading by using an old poll instead of the ones that were conducted most recently.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/michigan-democratic/
Ouch.
phazed0
(745 posts)Wasn't trying to be misleading but have seen quite a few articles published today and they are referencing old polls - arg.
Like this one from MSU published today, using the March 3rd MSU poll
http://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2016/trump-leads-gop-field-in-michigan-democratic-race-close/
Have a good one!
wiggs
(7,810 posts)at 24, 17, 11, 13, and 37 for Clinton. All are likely voters, polled March 1 or later. Some big differences, still.
Note: the Michigan State Poll only polled 262 likely voters going back to January and is given no weight by 538/Silver.
wiggs
(7,810 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Still, the aggregate results have not been terrible for primary states (as opposed to caucus states). But not as accurate as GE polls because turnout models for primaries are weaker.
ram2008
(1,238 posts)And I say that as a supporter.
Between the "Excuse me, I'm talking" and the white people can never be poor comment. He will lose ground with women and the working class at a time he needed to make inroads.
Once he loses Michigan this will be over on the 15th with Florida and Ohio.
Cavallo
(348 posts)Voting inversely of our colleges and professors says everything.
Sieg Hiel president Trump. I will consider running for Canada as the roundups start. I have many times been mistaken for a Mexican and asked if I was legal. I was born in the USA as were my parents and grandparents and great grandparents.
Beaverhausen
(24,470 posts)Who are the majority of Dems?
LannyDeVaney
(1,033 posts)I hope this link provides some useful information in your move.
[link:http://www.wikihow.com/Move-to-Canada|
Cavallo
(348 posts)You probably don't have to worry about this.
What Trump is saying, if he actually means it, means a whole lot of people will have to worry.
Thank you for the link. I live an hour from Canada and will go there with my family if it even looks like he is going to pull what he says he is. I am afraid of a fascist America.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,548 posts)After that, Bernie is ahead in most of the remaining primaries. He could surpass HRC in pledged delegates after the California primary in June. In the meantime, HRCs lead will only shrink.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)ram2008
(1,238 posts)The remaining states are split between Hillary and Bernie as far as favorable goes. The problem is Hillary is favored in all the big states and already has a 200 delegate lead, while Bernie is favored in the smaller caucus states.
If he loses Michigan tomorrow that battle becomes even harder. It would take something catastrophic for Hillary to lose her lead.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,548 posts)There's quite a few large states left where Bernie,will rack up lots of delegates, California, Washington, New York, and several more.
ram2008
(1,238 posts)New York is Hillary's home state so she'll win that, California best case scenario splits, and Washington is a Bernie win. In the end its not enough.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,548 posts)[link:http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.ca/2016/03/clinton-will-build-her-biggest-lead-on.html|
Click on links in blog post to see analysis of data.
http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.ca/2016/03/clinton-will-build-her-biggest-lead-on.html
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)However, after the surprise yesterday, I think the 15th is more in question now. And man... the polls were so wrong. SO, good luck, and let's see how it goes!
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)"Excuse me, I'm talking" is fine unless one is sexist and thinks women need to be coddled.
The voting is proportional and Sanders could have hit home run after home run in the debate and that would have, at best, gained him a few more delegates than otherwise. So, cheer up, the monster hauls of delegates lay ahead.
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)third-way platform before the debate, you probably heard nothing to change your inclinations.
If you like Sanders' platform, you heard thinks that will draw you closer to his movement.
In the end, Progressives (like me) will see this as a great Sanders performance. Status quo centrists won't get it.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I like to pretend people who disagree with me do so merely because "they don't get it" too. It certainly allows us the pretense we're much more clever than we really are... and the left-handed "observation" is satisfactorily self-validating, as well.
A win-win bumper-sticker for anyone with low self-esteem.
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)That white people can never be poor comment (not quite the way it was phrased) was not Bernie's. He was quoting what a young Black woman said to him. The MSM, esp. Fox, then engaged in distortion.
As to the Excuse me, I'm talking, good for him. Hillary kept interrupting into his time. If she were a man, no one would have thought anything about his comment. No feminist will object to a woman being held to the same standards as a man. Hillary wants it both ways, one of the things I dislike about her.
JesterCS
(1,827 posts)Babel_17
(5,400 posts)Released:
Monday, March 7, 2016
-- Democratic primary --
Hillary Clinton currently holds a 55% to 42% lead over Bernie Sanders in the Michigan Democratic primary. Clinton enjoys a solid edge among non-white voters (68% to 27%), who make up more than one-fourth of the likely electorate. Clinton (49%) and Sanders (48%) are virtually tied among white voters. Clinton has a 57% to 40% lead among voters who earn less than $50,000 a year, and a 54% to 42% lead among those who earn $50,000 or more.
Sanders holds a solid lead (58% to 39%) among voters under the age of 50, but this is offset by Clintons more than 2-to-1 advantage among voters age 50 and older (65% to 31%).
Clinton had Michigan all to herself eight years ago after her opponents pulled out when the state violated party rules in scheduling its primary too early. This time she appears to be holding on in the face of a tough challenge from Sanders, said Murray.
Note: nearly all the interviews for this poll were conducted before Sunday nights debate.
Much more at the link.
As a Sanders supporter I'm hoping the debate helped him, and that other trends are going his campaign's way. But, unsurprisingly, Clinton has the advantage going in.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)I'm sure that was an accidental oversight.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)i have paid close attention to the polls in my fair state ...... I have been undecided this entire primary season, believing the sum of the candidate strengths and weaknesses are essentially equal.
I will likely vote for Sanders tomorrow in the Michigan primary simply because Clinton is so far ahead in the polls. Had Sanders been far ahead in the polls i would have settled on Clinton
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)Hillary Clinton has a greater than 99% chance of winning the Michigan primary
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)his forecast that Trump would win Iowa, his forecast that Trump would win Kansas, his forecast that Trump would win Maine, etc.
Nate is on a hot streak!
greymouse
(872 posts)Nate been wrong twice in 12 years........
JesterCS
(1,827 posts)pat_k
(9,313 posts)That makes two recent polls that show his numbers up relative to earlier polling. Great to see.