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Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:33 PM Mar 2016

Islamic State defector brings 'goldmine' of details on 22,000 supporters

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by BooScout (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: Reuters

LONDON (Reuters) - A disillusioned former member of Islamic State has passed a stolen memory stick of documents identifying 22,000 supporters in over 50 countries to a British journalist, a leak that could help the West target Islamist fighters planning attacks.

Leaks of such detailed information about Islamic State are rare and give Britain's spies a potential trove of data that could help unmask militants who have threatened more attacks like those that killed 130 people in Paris last November.

A man calling himself Abu Hamed, a former member of Islamic State who became disillusioned with its leaders, passed the files to Britain's Sky News on a memory stick he said he had stolen from the head of the group's internal security force.

On it were enrolment forms containing the names of Islamic State supporters and of their relatives, telephone numbers, and other details such as the subjects' areas of expertise and who had recommended them.

One of the files, marked "Martyrs", detailed a group of IS members who were willing and trained to carry out suicide attacks, Sky said.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/tv-channel-says-obtains-details-22-000-islamic-082041671.html?nf=1#



Reverse-Snowden....

(assuming of course his cache of info is legit)
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Islamic State defector brings 'goldmine' of details on 22,000 supporters (Original Post) Blue_Tires Mar 2016 OP
Prayers for keeping this leftynyc Mar 2016 #1
Yes. 840high Mar 2016 #3
why would this be reported? virtualobserver Mar 2016 #2
To cause dissension in the ranks leftynyc Mar 2016 #5
a few problems with this. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #4
We can cross reference it. alfredo Mar 2016 #18
He was probably nervous as hell wondering if they would catch on before he defected. C Moon Mar 2016 #6
How is this a reverse Snowden? fbc Mar 2016 #7
Because Snowden gave government data to WikiLeaks KamaAina Mar 2016 #8
No, he gave the information to a journalist. fbc Mar 2016 #10
Hope lsewpershad Mar 2016 #9
yeah, making it public supports your theory. mopinko Mar 2016 #11
Sky News is a Murdoch rag. alfredo Mar 2016 #17
That is a treasure trove. IS needs to be backtracked to the original group of 60/70 trained men. Sunlei Mar 2016 #12
also front-tracked 6chars Mar 2016 #15
This is something that does not need to be in the media Botany Mar 2016 #13
the questions are interesting. One says: knowledge of sharia MariaThinks Mar 2016 #14
so... Javaman Mar 2016 #16
Locking... BooScout Mar 2016 #19
 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
1. Prayers for keeping this
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:35 PM
Mar 2016

courageous man safe.

 

840high

(17,196 posts)
3. Yes.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:40 PM
Mar 2016
 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
2. why would this be reported?
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:38 PM
Mar 2016

sounds like something that you would want to keep quiet, unless it is bullshit designed to create fear in operatives worldwide.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
5. To cause dissension in the ranks
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:42 PM
Mar 2016

hoping they'll start turning on each other. When people get paranoid, they make mistakes.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
4. a few problems with this.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:41 PM
Mar 2016

1. The biggest problem, WHY MAKE THIS PUBLIC? I am sure that out of those 22,000, at least a few are computer literate, english speaking, and follow the news religiously. Now they have a head's up that they will be dead center within a pretty rigorous search and interrogate process. Sky News should have at least waited until the authorities weighed in.

2. How can we tell that it is accurate? Disinformation is as powerful and information. Giving us 22,000, of which all the real members are dead or in Iraq, while the vast majority were simply picked out of a phone book, or gathered from ISIS members who have axes to grind against family/friends/former bosses/ex-girlfriends or boyfriends/ and much more. This could be an effort to daze and confused us, to distract us while other events are underway.

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
18. We can cross reference it.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 04:49 PM
Mar 2016

Murdoch's Sky news cares about selling papers, national security is not a priority

C Moon

(12,212 posts)
6. He was probably nervous as hell wondering if they would catch on before he defected.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:44 PM
Mar 2016
 

fbc

(1,668 posts)
7. How is this a reverse Snowden?
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:46 PM
Mar 2016

Both exposed illegal activity at their own risk.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
8. Because Snowden gave government data to WikiLeaks
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:56 PM
Mar 2016

while the defector gave data to the government.

 

fbc

(1,668 posts)
10. No, he gave the information to a journalist.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 04:02 PM
Mar 2016

it's in the first sentence.

lsewpershad

(2,620 posts)
9. Hope
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:58 PM
Mar 2016

we don't get carried away..... remember the guy who [defector] who insisted that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and led people [the shrub and others] full of hate and fear to [illegally ] invade Iraq? Now this does suggest we do nothing.

mopinko

(70,078 posts)
11. yeah, making it public supports your theory.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 04:13 PM
Mar 2016

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
17. Sky News is a Murdoch rag.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 04:45 PM
Mar 2016

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
12. That is a treasure trove. IS needs to be backtracked to the original group of 60/70 trained men.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 04:22 PM
Mar 2016

The group that came out with the long line of new pickup trucks.

6chars

(3,967 posts)
15. also front-tracked
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 04:40 PM
Mar 2016

find out who has been consorting with these people - there are going to be quite a few others like San Bernadino guy.

Botany

(70,490 posts)
13. This is something that does not need to be in the media
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 04:31 PM
Mar 2016

n/t

MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
14. the questions are interesting. One says: knowledge of sharia
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 04:36 PM
Mar 2016

which to me implies that the more someone knows sharia, the more they are desired.

nothing about knowing the ten commandments, especially 'Thou Shalt Not Kill'.

Javaman

(62,517 posts)
16. so...
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 04:44 PM
Mar 2016

does this mean the government "hacked" his phone to get all this intel?

BooScout

(10,406 posts)
19. Locking...
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 09:00 AM
Mar 2016
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