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Thu Mar 10, 2016, 02:33 PM

Islamic State defector brings 'goldmine' of details on 22,000 supporters

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Source: Reuters

LONDON (Reuters) - A disillusioned former member of Islamic State has passed a stolen memory stick of documents identifying 22,000 supporters in over 50 countries to a British journalist, a leak that could help the West target Islamist fighters planning attacks.

Leaks of such detailed information about Islamic State are rare and give Britain's spies a potential trove of data that could help unmask militants who have threatened more attacks like those that killed 130 people in Paris last November.

A man calling himself Abu Hamed, a former member of Islamic State who became disillusioned with its leaders, passed the files to Britain's Sky News on a memory stick he said he had stolen from the head of the group's internal security force.

On it were enrolment forms containing the names of Islamic State supporters and of their relatives, telephone numbers, and other details such as the subjects' areas of expertise and who had recommended them.

One of the files, marked "Martyrs", detailed a group of IS members who were willing and trained to carry out suicide attacks, Sky said.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/tv-channel-says-obtains-details-22-000-islamic-082041671.html?nf=1#



Reverse-Snowden....

(assuming of course his cache of info is legit)

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Reply Islamic State defector brings 'goldmine' of details on 22,000 supporters (Original post)
Blue_Tires Mar 2016 OP
leftynyc Mar 2016 #1
840high Mar 2016 #3
virtualobserver Mar 2016 #2
leftynyc Mar 2016 #5
ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #4
alfredo Mar 2016 #18
C Moon Mar 2016 #6
fbc Mar 2016 #7
KamaAina Mar 2016 #8
fbc Mar 2016 #10
lsewpershad Mar 2016 #9
mopinko Mar 2016 #11
alfredo Mar 2016 #17
Sunlei Mar 2016 #12
6chars Mar 2016 #15
Botany Mar 2016 #13
MariaThinks Mar 2016 #14
Javaman Mar 2016 #16
BooScout Mar 2016 #19

Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 02:35 PM

1. Prayers for keeping this

 

courageous man safe.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 02:40 PM

3. Yes.

 

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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 02:38 PM

2. why would this be reported?

 

sounds like something that you would want to keep quiet, unless it is bullshit designed to create fear in operatives worldwide.

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Response to virtualobserver (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 02:42 PM

5. To cause dissension in the ranks

 

hoping they'll start turning on each other. When people get paranoid, they make mistakes.

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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 02:41 PM

4. a few problems with this.

1. The biggest problem, WHY MAKE THIS PUBLIC? I am sure that out of those 22,000, at least a few are computer literate, english speaking, and follow the news religiously. Now they have a head's up that they will be dead center within a pretty rigorous search and interrogate process. Sky News should have at least waited until the authorities weighed in.

2. How can we tell that it is accurate? Disinformation is as powerful and information. Giving us 22,000, of which all the real members are dead or in Iraq, while the vast majority were simply picked out of a phone book, or gathered from ISIS members who have axes to grind against family/friends/former bosses/ex-girlfriends or boyfriends/ and much more. This could be an effort to daze and confused us, to distract us while other events are underway.

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Response to ChairmanAgnostic (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:49 PM

18. We can cross reference it.

Murdoch's Sky news cares about selling papers, national security is not a priority

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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 02:44 PM

6. He was probably nervous as hell wondering if they would catch on before he defected.

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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 02:46 PM

7. How is this a reverse Snowden?

 

Both exposed illegal activity at their own risk.

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Response to fbc (Reply #7)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 02:56 PM

8. Because Snowden gave government data to WikiLeaks

 

while the defector gave data to the government.

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Response to KamaAina (Reply #8)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:02 PM

10. No, he gave the information to a journalist.

 

it's in the first sentence.

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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 02:58 PM

9. Hope

we don't get carried away..... remember the guy who [defector] who insisted that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and led people [the shrub and others] full of hate and fear to [illegally ] invade Iraq? Now this does suggest we do nothing.

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Response to lsewpershad (Reply #9)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:13 PM

11. yeah, making it public supports your theory.

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Response to mopinko (Reply #11)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:45 PM

17. Sky News is a Murdoch rag.

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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:22 PM

12. That is a treasure trove. IS needs to be backtracked to the original group of 60/70 trained men.

The group that came out with the long line of new pickup trucks.

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Response to Sunlei (Reply #12)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:40 PM

15. also front-tracked

find out who has been consorting with these people - there are going to be quite a few others like San Bernadino guy.

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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:31 PM

13. This is something that does not need to be in the media

n/t

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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:36 PM

14. the questions are interesting. One says: knowledge of sharia

which to me implies that the more someone knows sharia, the more they are desired.

nothing about knowing the ten commandments, especially 'Thou Shalt Not Kill'.

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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:44 PM

16. so...

does this mean the government "hacked" his phone to get all this intel?

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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 08:00 AM

19. Locking...

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