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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 11:47 PM Mar 2016

SXSW apologizes after ordering U.S. Olympic fencer to remove hijab

Source: USA Today

Ibtihaj Muhammad, who is poised to be the first U.S. Olympian to wear a hijab, said she was told to remove her headscarf for a security photo at the South by Southwest festival on Saturday and then was given a credential with an incorrect name.

Muhammad, who wears the hijab for religious purposes and has become a prominent U.S. athlete with sponsors such as Visa and American Airlines, tweeted the incident in disdain as she was forced to remove it.

The incident does not look good for SXSW, which prides itself on being an annual cultural showpiece in Austin, Texas. SXSW said in a public statement: "It is not our policy that a hijab or any religious head covering be removed in order to pick up a SXSW badge. This was one volunteer who made an insensitive request and that person has been removed for the duration of the event. We are embarrassed by this and have apologized to Ibtihaj in person, and sincerely regret this incident.”

Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2016/03/12/sxsw-apologizes-team-usa-olympic-fencer-ibtihaj-muhammad-hijab/81709018/



She's one of the top sabreuses in the world, and a chance for us to medal in women's saber (we were shut out in London, after running the podium in Beijing).
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SXSW apologizes after ordering U.S. Olympic fencer to remove hijab (Original Post) Recursion Mar 2016 OP
I read an article about her a few days ago - LiberalElite Mar 2016 #1
Here's her epic 2015 bout with Zagunis in Seoul Recursion Mar 2016 #4
The hijab is not religious, it is cultural. But she has a right to her culture. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2016 #2
That is BS oberliner Mar 2016 #12
"The hijab is not religious" left-of-center2012 Mar 2016 #15
At link, there are obsevant muslims who don't wear hijab and non-observant who do. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2016 #23
You can say that about any religious custom IronLionZion Mar 2016 #24
Yeah, I uphold the right of Mormons to wear their secret underwear & Hassidics their forelocks Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2016 #25
Austin is not all that. SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #3
Houston? Boomer Mar 2016 #5
Sorry, it's true. SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #6
Houston's got an amazing LGBT community and arts community Recursion Mar 2016 #8
Yep. Best in Texas. SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #26
Houston sucks LOL...If you don't look close you may drive right past it snooper2 Mar 2016 #31
You must not have been here in a while. SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #33
drove past it last summer heading to Galveston, tried to haul ass but 45 SUCKS in downtown Houston snooper2 Mar 2016 #34
OK. nt SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #35
Houston's freeways and traffic are in better shape than Austin's. Paladin Mar 2016 #36
Houston? You have to be kidding? Android3.14 Mar 2016 #7
The owner of the Houston Texans is far right. rockfordfile Mar 2016 #10
You got right-wing jerks almost everywhere. nt SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #28
Not that I noticed. SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #27
I hate religion Lunabell Mar 2016 #9
Do these idiots not listen to the news? Hissyspit Mar 2016 #11
"sabreuses" - that's a cromulent word? n/t PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #13
Yes! I'm male, and I fence saber. I'm a sabreur Recursion Mar 2016 #16
For the uninformed (me) left-of-center2012 Mar 2016 #14
"South By Southwest". Used to be a music festival; now a bunch of Ted Talks Recursion Mar 2016 #17
Some people seem to like it... PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #18
Thanks, but .... left-of-center2012 Mar 2016 #19
"Ted Talks" are people with blogs who think their opinion is SO important...the get to talk snooper2 Mar 2016 #32
It's STILL a music festival. It's just been expanded. Action_Patrol Mar 2016 #20
With over one hundred venues, TED talks aren't even a close second to the music. marble falls Mar 2016 #22
Very, very shocked this happened in Austin. Now in my town, Marble Falls ...... marble falls Mar 2016 #21
Hey, please let me know how that works out. SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #29
I'm going to Springfield, and I'm retired but still doing hand-dying of fabric. My impression is ... marble falls Mar 2016 #30

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
1. I read an article about her a few days ago -
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 11:49 PM
Mar 2016

one of the reasons she took up fencing was she could do it and stay dressed modestly including the hijab.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
4. Here's her epic 2015 bout with Zagunis in Seoul
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 12:02 AM
Mar 2016

Zagunis won the gold in 2004 and 2008. Mohammed is on the right side of the screen. Holy crap Mohammed has a wicked stopcut.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,939 posts)
2. The hijab is not religious, it is cultural. But she has a right to her culture.
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 11:54 PM
Mar 2016

So long as her face is not obscured, it should be fine.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,939 posts)
23. At link, there are obsevant muslims who don't wear hijab and non-observant who do. . nt
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 09:29 AM
Mar 2016

Thanks for the link.

The wearing of a hijab overlaps considerably with the muslim faith, but it is not synonymous with the faith.

Thus it is more cultural than faithful.

But as I said before, she has a right to her culture and as long as her face is not obscured it is fine for ID photos. Especially ID photos that are displayed for all to see.

Men (presumably), and probably mostly white men especially, do not have many circumstances where they have a right to dictate what women wear.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
24. You can say that about any religious custom
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 12:49 PM
Mar 2016

people choose which customs to follow and we should respect that choice. And there are clothing requirements in the conservative traditions of Mormons, Mennonites, Orthodox Jews, Sikhs, etc.

Culture and faith are closely intertwined and often developed together through the history of humanity. Many cultural customs originated with somebody's spiritual beliefs and vice versa.


Bernardo de La Paz

(48,939 posts)
25. Yeah, I uphold the right of Mormons to wear their secret underwear & Hassidics their forelocks
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 01:14 PM
Mar 2016

People are entitled to their cultural traditions so long as they don't interfere with other people or societal functioning.

You can wear a turban or a face tattooed Motorhead if you want to, for all I care.

But claiming extra rights on the basis of religion is just not on.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
3. Austin is not all that.
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 12:00 AM
Mar 2016

Oh how I wish it was, for my own sake. The best city in Texas is Houston, not that that's saying much...

(Sorry - stuck here and feeling sorry for myself. But the above is still true.)

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
6. Sorry, it's true.
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 12:28 AM
Mar 2016

Not that I'm really crazy about either.

Maybe Austin used to be better, but it's not now.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
8. Houston's got an amazing LGBT community and arts community
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 01:46 AM
Mar 2016

It gets a bad rep but it's a great town in a lot of ways.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
26. Yep. Best in Texas.
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 02:46 PM
Mar 2016

There may be smaller towns that are better, but between Austin, San Antonio, Dallas, Fort Worth, and Houston, Houston wins hands down.

I still wish I could get out of Texas.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
31. Houston sucks LOL...If you don't look close you may drive right past it
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 10:20 AM
Mar 2016

It gets mistaken for a low flying cloud at times thanks smog! LOL


 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
34. drove past it last summer heading to Galveston, tried to haul ass but 45 SUCKS in downtown Houston
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 10:35 AM
Mar 2016

Fix your highways

Paladin

(28,243 posts)
36. Houston's freeways and traffic are in better shape than Austin's.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 11:27 AM
Mar 2016

As a life-long Texan, I never thought I'd say that. But it's true. While so desperately (and hopelessly) trying to live up to that highly erroneous The Only Cool Place In Texas moniker, Austin let its roads and infrastructure go right into the toilet. Sad but true.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
7. Houston? You have to be kidding?
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 12:58 AM
Mar 2016

I hated Houston. Lived down in that area for a couple of years and just wanted to die. Austin is so much cooler with the people, has better weather, and the music scene is the best.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
27. Not that I noticed.
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 02:49 PM
Mar 2016

Maybe you are talking about a number of years ago.

I'm not saying Houston is good. In many ways I loathe it. I'm just saying it's the best available in Texas, and that Austin is way over-hyped. IMHO.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
16. Yes! I'm male, and I fence saber. I'm a sabreur
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 08:47 AM
Mar 2016

She's female, and fences saber. She's a sabreuse.

She and Zagunis are two women who fence saber; they are sabreuses.

(To be more clear: the sport of fencing includes three weapons: foil, epee, and sabre. Most fencers learn foil first; some specialize to epee and sabre later.)

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
17. "South By Southwest". Used to be a music festival; now a bunch of Ted Talks
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 08:48 AM
Mar 2016

Texans may swoop in and defend it, but I stand by that characterization.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
32. "Ted Talks" are people with blogs who think their opinion is SO important...the get to talk
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 10:23 AM
Mar 2016

for a bit LIVE once or twice a year

They tend to pull a lot of SJW off the intertubes for a moment in time so their 3000 fans can see they are actually a living human being.

Action_Patrol

(845 posts)
20. It's STILL a music festival. It's just been expanded.
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 09:06 AM
Mar 2016

First week is Tech (your TED talks) and Film Festival. Second week is music and chaos.

marble falls

(56,996 posts)
21. Very, very shocked this happened in Austin. Now in my town, Marble Falls ......
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 09:20 AM
Mar 2016

and thats why I'm moving to Oregon.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
29. Hey, please let me know how that works out.
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 02:53 PM
Mar 2016

I'd like to do the same myself, if I could afford it and find a job.

marble falls

(56,996 posts)
30. I'm going to Springfield, and I'm retired but still doing hand-dying of fabric. My impression is ...
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 04:20 AM
Mar 2016

there is plenty of work, but that rent is high. We have our house here in Texas to sell so we feel pretty confident.

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