Forest Service considers Nestle mountain water withdrawals
Source: Washington Post
SAN BERNARDINO, Calif. The U.S. Forest Service on Friday proposed giving Nestle a five-year permit to keep siphoning millions of gallons of water from the Southern California mountains to bottle and sell.
The Forest Service said it was starting an environmental analysis of the request for a special permit to continue drawing water from the Strawberry Creek watershed in the San Bernardino National Forest east of Los Angeles.
Nestle Waters North America a subsidiary of the Swiss multinational food giant and the largest bottled water company in the nation has been drawing 25 million gallons of water a year from mountains springs under a permit that expired some three decades ago. The company pays the government about $500 a year and markets the product as Arrowhead brand spring water.
The water flows from about a dozen wells down through a 4.5-mile pipeline and is trucked to bottling plants.
Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/forest-service-considers-nestle-mountain-water-withdrawals/2016/03/18/9305da00-ed71-11e5-a9ce-681055c7a05f_story.html
jalan48
(13,860 posts)chapdrum
(930 posts)org; would love to have him bring this to light when he campaigns in CA.
americannightmare
(322 posts)is where we should be sending in the military - to remove Nestle...
chapdrum
(930 posts)Lower than bargain basement rates paid for huge amounts of water, and during an historic drought.
Removing Nestle' would be great, but there are still others doing the same, e.g. Walmart.
Good thing "liberal" J. Brown is on the job.
americannightmare
(322 posts)and you would think that conservatives/neoliberals would be all over this with the military, Nestle being a foreign occupation...
For preserving national resources.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,593 posts)Nestle is one of the worst corporations and the fact that they have been taking our water, just so they can re-sell it back to us is nothing short of criminal.
They need to be shut down, although I'm sure that won't happen.
cstanleytech
(26,284 posts)chapdrum
(930 posts)When I learn of travesties like this, I'm reminded of a question:
Are we being punished for something we have forgotten to do?
Pharaoh
(8,209 posts)and 500 bucks a year makes it unbelievably insane!! There's a fucking water rationing water crisis in California and they are selling hundreds of millions of dollars worth of water for 500 bucks!!!!!
Grins
(7,217 posts)Which they then mark up 800,000% because - America!!
chapdrum
(930 posts)No wonder corp(se) like these are so patriotic; they are judicially coddled and given sweetheart deals at every m'f'ing opportunity.
potone
(1,701 posts)It is obscene. How can this even be considered after the drought that California has suffered for years? Is there a campaign to stop this?
chapdrum
(930 posts)I will post it (and hope that you will, too).
I could never get the rate Calif. receives from Brown's office.
potone
(1,701 posts)I will!
Capt.Rocky300
(1,005 posts)I knew a gentleman who worked for them in sales for 37 years and the day before his retirement they fired him to avoid paying his pension. It took 3 years in court but he got his retirement and legal fees paid by Nestle. The problem was the process sucked the life out of him and he was dead 2 years later.
vkkv
(3,384 posts)Nestle Waters CEO Tim Brown refuses to stop bottling water in California despite the ongoing drought.
Brown said during an interview this week that he would not only continue selling water from the Golden State, but insisted he wants to bottle even more.
"If I stop bottling water tomorrow," Brown continued, "people would buy another brand of bottled water. As the second largest bottler in the state, were filling a role many others arent filling.
http://www.businessinsider.com/nestle-waters-ceo-insists-he-would-increase-water-bottling-in-california-if-i-could-2015-5
burrowowl
(17,639 posts)Stop Nestle!
tikka
(762 posts)What pisses me off is that it has taken this long for anything to be done about this. The new contract will probably be just as pathetic as the last one. Just goes to show how corporations are running the government.
Also, their water extraction in Michigan while Flint suffers is morally outrageous.
chapdrum
(930 posts)actions that most would deem "morally outrageous" are NEVER actually seen that way?
The silence from a likely counterforce (organized religion) is deafening.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,013 posts)Absolutely insane that this theft of public water has been going on for decades by Nestle
lark
(23,094 posts)WTF??? Why does Obama have all these rw'ers in his government? He needs to step in right now and override this. It's crazy, ratfuckingly stupid in a state undergoing an epic drought where people are being told not to flush the toilet that Nestle can continue to steal (OK, guess it's government approved stealing now) water and pay ZERO for it!! WTF???
lovuian
(19,362 posts)for 25 million gallons of California water
I think they need to reevaluate that deal for sure especially when California experienced a serious drought to all its citizens and how they paid for higher water bills.
They_Live
(3,231 posts)for visibility. This is maddening. I have been boycotting Nestle for quite some time over this issue. Corporate monster.
sinkingfeeling
(51,448 posts)the people of any country and make huge profits?
chapdrum
(930 posts)the question.
I wish us luck getting the answer because, democracy.
chapdrum
(930 posts)for posting this.
This is utterly infuriating. I've been trying to learn the rate that Nestle' pays in Calif., and finally, here it is. Thank you.
Not only does Calif. allow this much water to be taken during the worst drought (or, "drought" in its history (and, actually, even longer than that), it practically GIVES IT AWAY to effing Nestle', one of the worst rogue corporations in the effing world.
Good thing we have a "climate champion" like Jerry Brown in office.
Nestle' has, OF COURSE, the same sweet deal in Canada, where it pays the province of British Columbia $2.25 (two dollars & twenty-five cents) for every million litres of water it draws from there.
In gallons, that's 264,172. $2.25.
As history proves, the cosy relationship between corporations and governments is a hallmark of fascism.
At the least, we should be re-examining the very concept of the corporation, as this arbitrary construct, fashioned out of thin air, is doing immense damage to our lives.
SusanLarson
(284 posts)Water removed and bottled by Nestle is gone from the local environment. It's gone from the hydrological system, and it will never return. Water taken for local use will. That needs to be taken into consideration when a company like this wants to ship local water to other places.
chapdrum
(930 posts)The Calif. League of Conservation Voters publishes bill descriptions pertinent to its mission.
It gives the bill #, its title, its author, a description of what is proposed, and then the final vote.
"AB 356: Oil & Gas Groundwater Monitoring
Author: Assemblymember Das Williams
The Division of Oil, Gas and Geothermal Resources (DOGGR) improperly permitted over 2,500 wells to inject toxic chemicals and other fluids from oil and gas extraction operations into federally protected potential sources of drinking water. AB 356 would have required the State Water Board to vet DOGGR's aquifer exemptions and injection projects to ensure that sources of drinking water are protected.
Failed Assembly 28-33."
(emphasis added)
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,593 posts)Nestle must be paying the campaign costs of the legislators in order to get this sort of bill removed.
I am gobsmacked.
AND pissed off.
chapdrum
(930 posts)For you and others who may want to voice your opinion, Brown's office #: (916) 445-2841.
To reach staff, the option # is 4.
chapdrum
(930 posts)Below is excerpted from Courage Campaign fundraiser e-mail; just for information.
____
"Nestlé's actions in the San Bernardino National Forest are just outrageous.
They're taking water under a permit that required them to pay just $524 a year to the U.S. Forest Service -- a permit that expired 27 years ago.
And recently we discovered that the forest service official who for years was responsible for reviewing Nestlé's permit recently left to take a job at -- yep, you guessed it -- Nestlé.
Maybe the lawyers on the other side are hoping that if they can drag the case out long enough, a nonprofit group like ours won't be able to stick with it. If so, they have another thing coming -- because Courage Campaign and our partners in this effort at the Story of Stuff will never back down from our defense of California's water..."
shanti
(21,675 posts)near Shasta, I believe.