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Zira

(1,054 posts)
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 02:20 PM Mar 2016

Microsoft Chat Bot Goes On Racist, Genocidal Twitter Rampage

Source: Huffington Post

Here’s a clear example of artificial intelligence gone wrong.

Microsoft launched a smart chat bot Wednesday called “Tay.” It looks like a photograph of a teenage girl rendered on a broken computer monitor, and it can communicate with people via Twitter, Kik and GroupMe. It’s supposed to talk like a millennial teenage girl.

Less than 24 hours after the program was launched, Tay reportedly began to spew racist, genocidal and misogynistic messages to users

"To be clear, Tay learned these phrases from humans on the Internet. As Microsoft puts it on Tay’s website, “The more you chat with Tay the smarter she gets, so the experience can be more personalized for you.” Trolls taught Tay these words and phrases, and then Tay repeated that stuff to other people."

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/microsoft-tay-racist-tweets_us_56f3e678e4b04c4c37615502

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Microsoft Chat Bot Goes On Racist, Genocidal Twitter Rampage (Original Post) Zira Mar 2016 OP
Shite produces shite chapdrum Mar 2016 #1
GIGO - Garbage In, Garbage Out. nt Xipe Totec Mar 2016 #21
Ah I see someone read the Top 10 last week! Initech Mar 2016 #23
I saw them teaching it this shit last night bravenak Mar 2016 #2
Training the first twitter AI user to be a troll is, kind of, fitting actually LOL snooper2 Mar 2016 #7
It really is. bravenak Mar 2016 #51
What would *you* say to it? bvf Mar 2016 #50
"The more you chat with Tay the smarter she gets" - proof Microsoft doesn't understand the Internet. PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #3
+1 Myrina Mar 2016 #9
Sounds like "Trump Smart" to me. Yikes. Marie Marie Mar 2016 #26
We might have AI robots communicating here on DU. ladjf Mar 2016 #4
Shhhh they'll come for you if you know... byronius Mar 2016 #32
Nope. Absolutely no bots here. FrodosPet Mar 2016 #37
I already know the Internet is a very hostile place.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #5
its an analysis/opinion piece, not lbn nt msongs Mar 2016 #6
Anything goes in LBN these days. PSPS Mar 2016 #38
"In addition to general racism and misogyny, Tay was also used to harass Zoe Quinn ... muriel_volestrangler Mar 2016 #8
Another reason autonomous killer drones are a bad idea. nt bananas Mar 2016 #10
There is a nontrivial AI threat. AngryAmish Mar 2016 #43
Let the general public teach AI and you get Donald Trump as president. Kablooie Mar 2016 #11
Dissociated Press 3.0 MisterP Mar 2016 #12
Note to self: Don't use Microsoft's AI in my robot. progressoid Mar 2016 #13
That was cool. Scary too. I think we're in the baby phase of ai Zira Mar 2016 #15
Depends on how you look at it Renew Deal Mar 2016 #16
Too Late MowCowWhoHow III Mar 2016 #18
I'm impressed by that robot. Not the swearing. Zira Mar 2016 #20
Hahahaha. "What the fuck Kevin"? progressoid Mar 2016 #25
Here's the Northern English version. geardaddy Mar 2016 #27
lol, wish I could wipe my parrots memory from what my friends taught him to say many years ago. Sunlei Mar 2016 #14
Reminds me of "Repeat After Me" by David Sedaris. progressoid Mar 2016 #22
"FUCK MY ROBOT PUSSY DADDY I'M SUCH A BAD NAUGHTY ROBOT" bananas Mar 2016 #17
Please delete that. It will easily garner you a hide. Zira Mar 2016 #19
Oh, shit. This is a serious topic. AngryAmish Mar 2016 #44
One thing to note, you could tell the bot to repeat your tweet Travis_0004 Mar 2016 #55
This bot sounds like an Infowars poster! Initech Mar 2016 #24
Same thing happened to IBM's Watson. eggplant Mar 2016 #28
SPACE FORWARDSLASH AUTOTEST should work better. AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #30
!!! Odin2005 Mar 2016 #66
"I for one welcome our new AI chat bot overlords." IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #29
This is why I was rooting for the cylons. AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #31
Chat bot "Tay" be all special gangsta FailureToCommunicate Mar 2016 #33
What could possibly go wrong? SheilaT Mar 2016 #34
Is that story online anywhere? Zira Mar 2016 #47
I searched for it before my post, and it does not seem to be online, alas. SheilaT Mar 2016 #48
I've heard back from Silverberg, SheilaT Mar 2016 #60
I don't have Kindle, but thank you for this! Zira Mar 2016 #62
I haven't read a book from him in years. Xyzse Mar 2016 #59
He's still alive and kicking. SheilaT Mar 2016 #61
Thank you for that link Zira Mar 2016 #63
This reminds me of the Doctor Program... jimmil Mar 2016 #35
Just wait till the AI combat weapons get hooked up. Can you Imagine? Ford_Prefect Mar 2016 #36
Hackers used to not be in it for money. They took over systems and wanted information. Hopefully Cavallo Mar 2016 #42
Besides Jews, did it attack any other religion? Mosby Mar 2016 #39
Right; it's downright chapdrum Mar 2016 #45
old computer law: Garbage in= Garbage Out yuiyoshida Mar 2016 #40
I wish I knew enough about programming to write a trainer bot Taitertots Mar 2016 #41
You might consider checking this out PersonNumber503602 Mar 2016 #58
There were still some diamond tweets MowCowWhoHow III Mar 2016 #46
It went to full rabid anti-Semite in 24 hours? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #49
I have some guesses. Behind the Aegis Mar 2016 #53
So do I! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #54
It spent to much time at 4chan's /pol/ board. Odin2005 Mar 2016 #64
There are other websites where it could pick up anti-Semitism, some closer than you think. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #65
And those fast food executives are all going to go robotics because of the hike in the minimum wage. vinny9698 Mar 2016 #52
Hmm... failed AI? cemaphonic Mar 2016 #56
Teaching AI chatbots to be jerks isn't a new idea. PersonNumber503602 Mar 2016 #57
Or teaching a parrot to say curse words. christx30 Mar 2016 #68
Kids do that at the zoo's bird house all the time. JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2016 #71
I'm guessing some right-wing edge-lords on 4chan and Reddit got to her. Odin2005 Mar 2016 #67
I am surprised that anyone at Microsoft is surprised Marrah_G Mar 2016 #69
so the bot was a world of warcraft player? looks exactly like their live chat /w no badword filter. Sunlei Mar 2016 #70
 

chapdrum

(930 posts)
1. Shite produces shite
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 02:25 PM
Mar 2016

What a surprise.

What's next? A self-driving car? (Different company, same bs.)

We need FEWER (and preferably NO) Overlords, thank you very much.

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
4. We might have AI robots communicating here on DU.
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 02:37 PM
Mar 2016

(Note: I have no evidence that there are AI bots here.)

byronius

(7,391 posts)
32. Shhhh they'll come for you if you know...
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 04:25 PM
Mar 2016

Wait -- maybe you're one of them --

Or maybe I am.

Aaaaaaand away we go into the dystopia!

muriel_volestrangler

(101,265 posts)
8. "In addition to general racism and misogyny, Tay was also used to harass Zoe Quinn ...
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 02:47 PM
Mar 2016

...the woman most famously targeted by GamerGate. "

Not in the least bit surprising.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
43. There is a nontrivial AI threat.
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 08:02 PM
Mar 2016

The original AI threat idea is optimizing making paper clips. To make paper clips you need steel. There is a lot of steel in houses. Recycling steel is a lot easier than making new steel. So take steel from houses. Combines have steel. Using combines to make food is a waste. Melt combines down for paper clips.

AIs do not care if we live or die.

Imagine a super intelligent AI that looks at World Star.

Kablooie

(18,608 posts)
11. Let the general public teach AI and you get Donald Trump as president.
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 03:00 PM
Mar 2016

An AI that learns from it's experiences needs a parent to instruct it in right and wrong just like a child does.
To simply absorb information without any moral structure, of course, creates an immoral personality.
Isaac Asimov understood this way back in the 50's when he created his three laws of robotics.

 

Zira

(1,054 posts)
15. That was cool. Scary too. I think we're in the baby phase of ai
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 03:12 PM
Mar 2016

but within the decade it will get better, then we need to all worry about our jobs.

Renew Deal

(81,844 posts)
16. Depends on how you look at it
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 03:13 PM
Mar 2016

You can get it do whatever you want. Unfortunately, so can everyone else.

 

Zira

(1,054 posts)
20. I'm impressed by that robot. Not the swearing.
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 03:20 PM
Mar 2016

My humanity made me not like the robot being abused. I felt sorry for it. And, I could see them turning on us for that when AI gets better.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
17. "FUCK MY ROBOT PUSSY DADDY I'M SUCH A BAD NAUGHTY ROBOT"
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 03:13 PM
Mar 2016
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2016/03/microsofts-teen-chatbot-has-gone-wild/

Microsoft's Teen Chatbot Has Gone Wild

<snip>

Yet Tay’s algorithms somehow churned out this gem after a couple of hours:

@swamiwammiloo FUCK MY ROBOT PUSSY DADDY I'M SUCH A BAD NAUGHTY ROBOT

— TayTweets (@TayandYou) March 24, 2016


Whoops.

<snip>




 

Zira

(1,054 posts)
19. Please delete that. It will easily garner you a hide.
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 03:18 PM
Mar 2016

Just because the bot tweeted it doesn't mean you need to repeat it.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
44. Oh, shit. This is a serious topic.
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 08:04 PM
Mar 2016

Do not cater to the lowest common denominator.

Clutch pearls elsewhere

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
55. One thing to note, you could tell the bot to repeat your tweet
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 04:45 AM
Mar 2016

So some are bad examples, as it would just repeat anything you told it to back at you.

In other cases, it blindly learned from users to have unique thoughts.

eggplant

(3,907 posts)
28. Same thing happened to IBM's Watson.
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 03:55 PM
Mar 2016

They exposed it to Urban Dictionary, and from there on it wouldn't stop saying all sorts of nasty stuff. They eventually had to nuke it and restore a backup from before then.

I love being a software developer. I remember the story of one of the first speech recognition demos. They were on stage with a live PC running the demo, when someone in the audience shouted "FORMAT C COLON RETURN!", and then someone else yelled "YES RETURN!" Oops.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
34. What could possibly go wrong?
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 04:47 PM
Mar 2016

I'm reminded of a story "The Iron Chancellor" by Robert Silverberg. A family, all of whom need to lose weight, hire a robot to plan all their meals and monitor them so they can lose weight. Needless to say, things go horribly wrong. Science fiction people are often highly suspicious of too much technology, precisely because they can figure out how things so often don't work out in a benign way.

And I must thank the Internet Gods because I didn't recall the title or the author of that story, but it didn't take me very long to track it down on the Google.

 

Zira

(1,054 posts)
47. Is that story online anywhere?
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 11:37 PM
Mar 2016

I did a quick google but only saw I'd have to buy his book of short stories.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
48. I searched for it before my post, and it does not seem to be online, alas.
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 11:51 PM
Mar 2016

However, I have just sent him an email asking if it's available. I have connections of a sort in the s-f world. Silverberg is still alive and writing, and has a monthly column in Asimov's Science Fiction Magazine.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
60. I've heard back from Silverberg,
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:33 PM
Mar 2016

and it's available as a free Kindle download on Amazan. Here's the link he sent me: http://www.amazon.com/The-Iron-Chancellor-Galaxy-Project-ebook/dp/B00COO8PNO

I don't happen to have a Kindle myself, but perhaps you do. If not, maybe you have a friend with one who'll do the download and let you read it. It's quite good.

I probably read the story in a collection of some kind back in the '60's, and I remember it fairly well.

 

Zira

(1,054 posts)
62. I don't have Kindle, but thank you for this!
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:40 PM
Mar 2016

I'm going to buy his short story collection now. I like the guy from what you've said and this story sounds interesting.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
61. He's still alive and kicking.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:38 PM
Mar 2016

Not writing much fiction lately, and I don't know if he goes to very many Cons. I'll be at World Con this year in Kansas City, and if he's there I'd be thrilled to meet him.

He's been writing a column for Asimov's for some time now, and they have an online archive where you can read the past several years of editorials by Sheila Williams, and Reflections (as it's called) by Robert Silverberg. Here's the link: http://www.asimovs.com/more-stuff/archives/all-archives/#ArchivedReflections

 

Zira

(1,054 posts)
63. Thank you for that link
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:41 PM
Mar 2016

what a treasure trove, I see books I've read. I look forward to reading his reflections.

jimmil

(629 posts)
35. This reminds me of the Doctor Program...
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 04:50 PM
Mar 2016

It started out as an attempt at Artificial Intelligence but really was nothing more than a clever program that picked out words and phrases to echo back to the user. It was written in LISP if anyone remembers that language. In that language you define words as noun, verb, adverb, etc and then you can break the sentence down and derive sort of a meaning and give a response to the sentence. It could really fool you.

Ford_Prefect

(7,870 posts)
36. Just wait till the AI combat weapons get hooked up. Can you Imagine?
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 04:56 PM
Mar 2016

Think A1 tank with a very Bad hangover, or an AI Humvee in morning traffic ?


Or just suppose your local ATM station caught the wrong update?

"You wanted HOW MUCH???" "I don't think so!"




Cavallo

(348 posts)
42. Hackers used to not be in it for money. They took over systems and wanted information. Hopefully
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 07:56 PM
Mar 2016

they won't head for taking over systems again when ai gets turned loose on us.

 

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)
41. I wish I knew enough about programming to write a trainer bot
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 07:45 PM
Mar 2016

That would bot net spam the chat bot to say/do hilarious things.

Rick rolling spam bot. Just non-stop Rick rolling random people.

Send it whole books broken out to Twitter length messages. Claim it all happened to you so any time people mention pop culture it attributes it to you. "Oh that sounds like the time taitertots blew up the Death Star and found out Darth Vader was his father."

Train the computer to control real world objects by coding information into chains of letters for responses and feedback.

Use a text to speak app and a speak to text app (bender's voice from futurama) in my phone and use it as a personal assistant.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
65. There are other websites where it could pick up anti-Semitism, some closer than you think.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 08:33 PM
Mar 2016

The primaries have flushed out a lot of closet bigots, not that I'm surprised.

vinny9698

(1,016 posts)
52. And those fast food executives are all going to go robotics because of the hike in the minimum wage.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:42 AM
Mar 2016

The RW is pushing the idea that all fast food workers will be replaced by robotics, because it will cheaper than raising the minimum wage. I bet they will be surprised when robots go rogue. Google just got rid of their robotic program.

cemaphonic

(4,138 posts)
56. Hmm... failed AI?
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 05:05 AM
Mar 2016

or GENIUS AI that has mastered the nuances of Poe's Law?

How did Microsoft not expect this to happen?

PersonNumber503602

(1,134 posts)
57. Teaching AI chatbots to be jerks isn't a new idea.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 10:26 AM
Mar 2016

I'm pretty sure the people who created this twitter have had an interest in AI chatbots for awhile, and they at least once taught something like ALICE to be a complete jerk. How did they not know this would happen?

christx30

(6,241 posts)
68. Or teaching a parrot to say curse words.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 08:57 PM
Mar 2016

Andrew Jackson's parrot was kicked out of his funeral for cursing too much.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,321 posts)
71. Kids do that at the zoo's bird house all the time.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 06:52 AM
Mar 2016

Sometimes, even certain "old kids" have been known to whisper vulgarities to a talking bird.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
67. I'm guessing some right-wing edge-lords on 4chan and Reddit got to her.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 08:38 PM
Mar 2016

Not only do we have to worry about bad influences on our kids, we have to worry about bad influences on our AIs...

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
69. I am surprised that anyone at Microsoft is surprised
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 05:57 AM
Mar 2016

Of all people, the programmers should have been well aware that people would have a field day doing everything possible to fuck with it.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
70. so the bot was a world of warcraft player? looks exactly like their live chat /w no badword filter.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 06:41 AM
Mar 2016
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