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Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 05:17 PM Mar 2016

CNN has called Alaska for Sanders

Source: CNN

This is a live televised report; no story yet.

In Alaska, Sanders is up by 79% to Hillary's 21% with over 38% of the vote in, and CNN has called it for Sanders.

In Washington, Sanders is up by 74% to 26% for Hillary with over 14% of the vote in.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/

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CNN has called Alaska for Sanders (Original Post) Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 OP
Woooooot !!!!!! jillan Mar 2016 #1
At least they waited until 38% of the vote was in. dchill Mar 2016 #2
With 55% of precincts in... Pastiche423 Mar 2016 #4
I'm hoping, of course, for a really big margin. dchill Mar 2016 #5
Same here Pastiche423 Mar 2016 #10
Washington State tends to be rather Liberal PatrynXX Mar 2016 #11
So far Bernie is way ahead in washington passiveporcupine Mar 2016 #27
Vote count stands at 12 to 5 right now underpants Mar 2016 #14
wooo feel the bern!!! nt retrowire Mar 2016 #3
AP called Alaska for Bernie 9 regular delegates, Clinton 0 regular delegates greymouse Mar 2016 #6
I guess that'll have to do. dchill Mar 2016 #19
What wonderful news democrank Mar 2016 #7
in this state PatrynXX Mar 2016 #20
woohoo!!!!!!!!!!!!! New Earth Mar 2016 #8
And of course, they have to say: "Delegate math still favors Clinton" LongTomH Mar 2016 #9
thats cause they flunked math more than I did PatrynXX Mar 2016 #13
Well, it does. These states are less diverse and less populated than upcoming contests. MADem Mar 2016 #22
AK is only 64% white. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #52
I've never been able to figure out Blue_In_AK Mar 2016 #61
I think it is because people are trying to fit the facts to the existing narrative. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #62
Yep. Bernie is only "supposed" to appeal to "lily-white" states. Beartracks Mar 2016 #68
66.9% white. Not the whitest, certainly. But more white than not. MADem Mar 2016 #76
oddly PatrynXX Mar 2016 #23
The math DOES favor Trump, though--even 538 says as much. MADem Mar 2016 #28
+10000. Yes, it's true. Zira Mar 2016 #71
Today is Sanders' day. The demographics favor him overwhelmingly. nt MADem Mar 2016 #12
can't exactly say Alaska is a white state PatrynXX Mar 2016 #15
66.9% white. Not the whitest, certainly. MADem Mar 2016 #24
Anchorage especially is very diverse. Blue_In_AK Mar 2016 #43
Washington Khellendross Mar 2016 #16
Washington state is over 77% white-if that's "diverse" to you, you do not understand the meaning of MADem Mar 2016 #26
... FailureToCommunicate Mar 2016 #40
.............. MADem Mar 2016 #78
And votes are votes. You seemed so focused on racial statistics. C Moon Mar 2016 #79
Yes, votes are votes. But none were cast in WA or AK. MADem Mar 2016 #80
Are we being FailureToCommunicate Mar 2016 #81
Alaska, Washington, and Hawaii have every strong liberal demographics, that's true Scootaloo Mar 2016 #54
They have people who align themselves with Sanders' priorities. MADem Mar 2016 #69
Strong firearms regulations, assault weapon bans, and comprehensive background checks, yup. Scootaloo Mar 2016 #70
Hmmmm. MADem Mar 2016 #73
Which demographics? Marrah_G Mar 2016 #74
Gun loving, low population per square mile state, substantially rural, more white than not. MADem Mar 2016 #75
You really are trying to FailureToCommunicate Mar 2016 #83
I really am trying to point out the locations where his popularity is greatest, as judged by the MADem Mar 2016 #84
Phacts? Phail FailureToCommunicate Mar 2016 #85
PH-balanced, are you? MADem Mar 2016 #86
Wait for CA and NY...big diverse states, not in the bible belt noiretextatique Mar 2016 #87
He needs 70%. From here on out. nt MADem Mar 2016 #88
He got over 70% in AK, HI, and WA nt noiretextatique Mar 2016 #89
Look at the total delegate take from those states. Now look at the take in NY, PA, CT. MADem Mar 2016 #90
Ouch! jalan48 Mar 2016 #17
Caaan you feel the BEEEEERNNN tonight?! n/t Kotze Mar 2016 #18
HOT F'ING DAMN!!!!!! Left Coast2020 Mar 2016 #21
you're welcome :D roguevalley Mar 2016 #47
These are REAL people. Hard working people. They wonder about the future. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #25
Wonderful News! Equinox Moon Mar 2016 #29
Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #30
But, but, but...he was supposed to drop out and Hillary was supposed to be anointed president. Deadshot Mar 2016 #31
Since Alaska is a red state we are not going to win in the general does it count. iandhr Mar 2016 #32
+1 Powdered Toast Man Mar 2016 #42
Bernie crosses over, hill doesnt. don't count AK out roguevalley Mar 2016 #49
That's what I keep saying. Blue_In_AK Mar 2016 #58
he will. roguevalley Mar 2016 #60
I have to admit, I am SHOCKED that MSNBC has Bernie in WI right now. NorthCarolina Mar 2016 #33
And they called Washington for Bernie. Duppers Mar 2016 #35
The graphic has #BirdieSanders L. Coyote Mar 2016 #34
Caucus. nt onehandle Mar 2016 #36
See post #40 above FailureToCommunicate Mar 2016 #41
Gesundheit. nt Lordquinton Mar 2016 #63
How in the world do they do caucuses in so enormous a state? SheilaT Mar 2016 #37
We had one big caucus in Anchorage for the state House districts here Blue_In_AK Mar 2016 #44
One graphic I'm looking at SheilaT Mar 2016 #48
some caucus in people's houses roguevalley Mar 2016 #50
So outside the cities, SheilaT Mar 2016 #53
yes. we're vast and the wilderness is a half hour away from the cities. roguevalley Mar 2016 #55
They've tried hard to make voting easier Blue_In_AK Mar 2016 #57
Thank you for informing me on this. SheilaT Mar 2016 #59
awesome d_b Mar 2016 #38
Are these numbers correct?? SylviaD Mar 2016 #39
Hillary didn't carry a single one of Alaska's 40 districts Blue_In_AK Mar 2016 #46
Blue d_b Mar 2016 #64
I can't find anything online now Blue_In_AK Mar 2016 #66
me too d_b Mar 2016 #67
A friend of one of my FB friends compiled this handy chart Blue_In_AK Mar 2016 #82
Rally time!!! pallidin710 Mar 2016 #45
Rally time yes. We had a little voter fraud in my caucas today. Zira Mar 2016 #72
Did they call everyone in Alaska whistler162 Mar 2016 #51
Smilie Brigade Baby libodem Mar 2016 #56
Righteous. Donating $50 more to Bernie tomorrow. navarth Mar 2016 #65
WHOOO HOOOO!!!!! Zira Mar 2016 #77

Pastiche423

(15,406 posts)
10. Same here
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 05:47 PM
Mar 2016

and he's winning Washington (101 delegates) w/19.4% in:

Bernie 76%

Hillary 24%

Go Bernie Go!

underpants

(182,627 posts)
14. Vote count stands at 12 to 5 right now
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 05:49 PM
Mar 2016

But they think there may as many as 25 other Democrats in Alaska.

I'm. Joking.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
13. thats cause they flunked math more than I did
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 05:49 PM
Mar 2016

actually I flunked Algebra went from Pre Algebra in one state to Alebgra II in another and messed me up forever. I should have taken Algebra 1


Math I was usually good at. (now my uncle he went all the way to Trig and I faint )

MADem

(135,425 posts)
22. Well, it does. These states are less diverse and less populated than upcoming contests.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 05:56 PM
Mar 2016

I mean, come on--these are not big prizes in terms of the delegate grab. And caucus states favor Sanders.

Still, his investment has been rewarded here, and it's a VERY good day for him, so he and his supporters should enjoy the wins, pat themselves on the back, and do a bit of celebrating. He's to be congratulated for his hard work.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
61. I've never been able to figure out
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 08:05 PM
Mar 2016

why people Outside think Alaska is so white, especially given our large Native population. Spend any time in Anchorage, and you'll see all kinds of people. We have a very large Asian population, Filipino, lots of Pacific Islanders, AA, Hispanic, Middle Eastern, and in recent years we've taken in a lot of refugees from Somalia and other African countries. As I pointed out somewhere in this thread, we have one of the most diverse school districts in the country, with almost 100 languages being spoken in the homes of our students.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
62. I think it is because people are trying to fit the facts to the existing narrative.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 08:11 PM
Mar 2016

To admit that it is anything other than demographics would be to accept that many Americans reject neoliberalism and the New Democrats. This is a dangerous idea, and so we must shoehorn the narrative in wherever possible.

Beartracks

(12,801 posts)
68. Yep. Bernie is only "supposed" to appeal to "lily-white" states.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:28 PM
Mar 2016
Ipso facto, if Bernie won Alaska, the state "must" be lily-white.



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PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
23. oddly
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 05:56 PM
Mar 2016

Republicans say the math does not favor Trump yet he has a bigger delegate lead O_O , just pointing this out. Not endorsing dickless (it's true this man has no dick)

MADem

(135,425 posts)
28. The math DOES favor Trump, though--even 538 says as much.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 06:09 PM
Mar 2016

They've been talking about "variances" lately (the Cuban Mistress Crisis, e.g., the "Your wife is ugly" battles, and the twitter bombs about penis and hand size, e.g.) but they're saying he just might take it without a food/floor fight.

Time will --as it always does--tell.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
15. can't exactly say Alaska is a white state
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 05:50 PM
Mar 2016

Think Alaska I think Eskimo's etc Hawaii is the problem. She doesn't do well in Caucuses but Obama has indicated Hillary should be the one for whatever reason. So will they listen to him or themselves.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
43. Anchorage especially is very diverse.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 07:04 PM
Mar 2016

Several of the most diverse schools in the country are in this city, thanks to our considerable immigrant population.

http://www.adn.com/article/20150523/anchorage-public-schools-lead-nation-diversity

MADem

(135,425 posts)
26. Washington state is over 77% white-if that's "diverse" to you, you do not understand the meaning of
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 06:03 PM
Mar 2016

the word.

C Moon

(12,209 posts)
79. And votes are votes. You seemed so focused on racial statistics.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 02:49 AM
Mar 2016

Bernie people aren't: we just love what how he wants to move this country out of the control of the 1%.
Bernie is the future. Hillary is the past.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
80. Yes, votes are votes. But none were cast in WA or AK.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 03:03 AM
Mar 2016

Those are caucus states, you see! And even in HI, what happened there was technically a "poll." A Presidential Preference Poll, to be precise--not a "primary," and not a "caucus," either.

I don't pretend to try to project with regard to what Sanders supporters "seem" to be focused on. I don't think you should try to do that with me, either. I get the distinct sense you're trying to denigrate me with that comment. It's obvious you don't know me.

I think you might find, come November, that Hillary Clinton is the future.

But time will tell.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,007 posts)
81. Are we being
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 12:49 PM
Mar 2016

Last edited Sun Mar 27, 2016, 02:23 PM - Edit history (1)

disingenuous here, perhaps? You clearly are attempting to rain on the parade of these victories. Even if they don't count in your mind as "votes" , even if they are only popularity contests as you believe, the FACT remains, that for the people in caucus states, that is their ONLY choice to participate. So, I'm sure you wouldn't want their voices silenced, even if it isn't a "vote" right?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
69. They have people who align themselves with Sanders' priorities.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:28 PM
Mar 2016

And that includes the 'gun' piece, too.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
70. Strong firearms regulations, assault weapon bans, and comprehensive background checks, yup.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:44 PM
Mar 2016

Thanks for helping point that out, MADem!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
73. Hmmmm.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 11:50 PM
Mar 2016
http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/politics/2015/10/11/gun-rights-advocate-sanders-looking-votes/73589030/

....May 8, 1991: The Brady bill passes the U.S. House of Representatives, 239-186, requiring a seven-day waiting period for handgun sales. Sanders votes no.



....Nov. 11, 1993: The federal Brady bill passes the U.S. House of Representatives with a 238-189 vote, requiring a five-day waiting period and a background check for handgun sales. Sanders votes no.


.
...Oct. 20, 2005: Sanders helps to pass an NRA-supported bill that limits lawsuits against gun manufacturers. The House vote is 223-140, and the bill becomes law the following year.

Hillary Clinton, then a senator representing New York, votes against the bill.

This vote will come up a decade later during his 2015 presidential campaign, and Sanders will defend his decision.

Nov. 7, 2006: Sanders jumps from the U.S. House to the U.S. Senate with more than 65 percent of the vote. Sanders’ NRA grade at the time is a “C-.”

MADem

(135,425 posts)
75. Gun loving, low population per square mile state, substantially rural, more white than not.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 02:33 AM
Mar 2016

Those are a slam-dunk for him, so long as he's not up against a white male Republican--he'd have a harder time in that case.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,007 posts)
83. You really are trying to
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 12:59 PM
Mar 2016

get bird poop on anything related to Bernie being popular with people who think slightly different than you. 'Gun loving, white, country folk' ?? That is a laugh. And SO different then Hillary supporters, who you image as urban, black, and gun hating?

It's okay for you to be disappointed with the recent results without dissing the electorate.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
84. I really am trying to point out the locations where his popularity is greatest, as judged by the
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 01:52 PM
Mar 2016

results of primary and/or caucus contests. That's all I'm "trying" to do. And I'm also using source documents like the US census to come to my conclusions. Finally, I'm using the facts--the contest results--to make my determination.

I am not disappointed with the recent results--they were entirely expected. Anyone who has read a newspaper in the last month could have predicted this outcome!

Enjoy your victory--Sanders did well with his target supporters yesterday!

FailureToCommunicate

(14,007 posts)
85. Phacts? Phail
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 02:20 PM
Mar 2016

Census tables may be facts, but what you do with them is draw assumptions.

Why spread more guano?

(Please, no need to reply, this is not an actual question)

MADem

(135,425 posts)
86. PH-balanced, are you?
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 03:26 PM
Mar 2016


Gee, I'm sure the US Census is just crushed at being referred to as a "phail."

Is that silly spelling a thing with the kids nowadays?

(Please, no need to reply, this is not an actual question)

MADem

(135,425 posts)
90. Look at the total delegate take from those states. Now look at the take in NY, PA, CT.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 06:01 PM
Mar 2016

You think he'll take seventy percent there? In states where Democrats -- and just Democrats (not Independents, Libertarians, Reform Party, Green Party, etc.) -- choose their party standard bearer?

He's got to do that the rest of the way. I don't think that's possible. YMMV.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
25. These are REAL people. Hard working people. They wonder about the future.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 06:01 PM
Mar 2016

I'm so proud of my fellow Americans that they made the right decision. Informed voters are the most dangerous in the world!

Response to Attorney in Texas (Original post)

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
32. Since Alaska is a red state we are not going to win in the general does it count.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 06:23 PM
Mar 2016

I have heard that often when Hillary wins a primary.


So If HRC wins in places like South Carolina and Alabama, and Georgia don't count, logic would assume that Bernie's wins in Alaska, Idaho, Utah, and Oklahoma don't count.


Or we can drop that kind of talk and acknowledge that both Hillary and Bernie's wins matter.


I think the latter is more sensible.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
33. I have to admit, I am SHOCKED that MSNBC has Bernie in WI right now.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 06:25 PM
Mar 2016

SHOCKED I tell ya. I figured they would have already segued to Lockup.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
44. We had one big caucus in Anchorage for the state House districts here
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 07:08 PM
Mar 2016

and then there were mini caucuses out in the smaller districts.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
48. One graphic I'm looking at
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 07:18 PM
Mar 2016

shows 40 precincts for the entire state. Can people phone in?

I'd never thought much about this before, but how many people outside of the cities have to travel a very long way to vote? Or buy groceries? Or go to a school or library?

Anyway, I'm pleased that Alaska went so strongly for Bernie.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
53. So outside the cities,
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 07:27 PM
Mar 2016

in the vast open areas, people just get together in smaller numbers and phone in the results?

I've never even had the pleasure of visiting Alaska, and if I ever do I'll probably not really see very much of the state, no doubt like almost all visitors. For some reason, looking at the caucus results today with a map of Alaska in front of me is making me think a lot about just how huge it is.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
57. They've tried hard to make voting easier
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 07:54 PM
Mar 2016

for the folks out in the villages, printing ballots in the Native languages, etc., but it is quite challenging. I'm not exactly sure how they handled this caucus. During regular elections, they do have polling stations set up in the various hub villages. As for food, many people out there rely on subsistence - salmon and moose, whale up north - for most of their food, traveling into the hub villages by four wheeler or boat in the summer and snow machine in the winter for staples. Store food is extremely expensive, though, off the road system, and gasoline is four or five times what it is in the city. Living in Alaska's Bush is not for the faint-hearted. Some villages don't even have indoor plumbing yet.

Back in the old days, the Native kids were sent out of the villages to boarding schools for their education. In the '70s a lawsuit was brought on behalf of the Native kids to provide schools in the villages and subsequently many schools were opened out there. It's very expensive, though, and hard to keep teachers, especially non-Native ones who have trouble adjusting to the village lifestyle. With Alaska's current budget crisis brought on by the declining oil prices (and our stupid legislature), a lot of the schools are in serious financial trouble. It's a big issue here. There is also a lot of home-schooling out of necessity more than ideology. GCI, our cable company, has done a pretty good job of providing Internet statewide, although it's really slow in some places.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
59. Thank you for informing me on this.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 07:58 PM
Mar 2016

Every state has its own challenges and quirks. I'm glad that I've lived in several different states as an adult, which helps me understand somewhat better the places I've never lived in.

I'm in New Mexico, and while it is of course quite a bit smaller than you -- although it's the fifth largest by size -- but we do have a pretty large indigenous population, and I'm aware of some of the issues connected to schools on tribal lands, very similar to what you're describing.

SylviaD

(721 posts)
39. Are these numbers correct??
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 06:55 PM
Mar 2016

Shaking my head here. Not really sure what to say if these numbers hold up.

...but Bernie still has no realistic way to catch HRC, but he is certainly popular in some states.

Wow...

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
46. Hillary didn't carry a single one of Alaska's 40 districts
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 07:12 PM
Mar 2016

that I've seen, and was shut out completely in several. The fact that Bernie's an independent makes him much more popular here than if he were a partisan Democrat. There are more independents here than Dems and Republicans combined, and independents could register Dem for the caucus. Republicans run our state legislature, but the minority is an Independent/Democrat coalition. Our governor is a Republican turned independent, while the lieutenant governor is a Democrat. Alaska is not as red as it first appears.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
66. I can't find anything online now
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 08:21 PM
Mar 2016

other than that about 79% of the votes are counted. I'll keep looking.

 

Zira

(1,054 posts)
72. Rally time yes. We had a little voter fraud in my caucas today.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 11:08 PM
Mar 2016

I was the precinct captain and the envelope had two votes for Hillary in it when I opened it. 29 people showed up and voted for Bernie, 2 for Hillary and one undecided. Hillary got 1 delegate out of 4. After voting the Hillary supporters left even though I asked everyone to stay to pick delgates. I had to randomly choose from the 4 Hillary supporters papers since they all left. I chose a delegate and backup delegate. So I chose and handed in the envelope with all done. I went home and called the delgate and backup Hillary delegate I picked. I tried to call at the caucus but the Junior High had no cell coverage. The Delegate told me she absolutely couldn't do it and didn't not want the job. The backup told me she didn't vote for Hillary and neither did her husband. They were the the two votes in the packet that had said they picked Hillary. She said they were undecided and voted that way and wouldn't have voted for Hillary regardless. I said well, I'm not sure what to think, Hillary would have gotten no delegates if it wasn't for you and your husband making up half the vote. And that's exactly what she ended up with because this woman refused to go be a delegate. She said her and her husband did not and would not be voting for Hillary. I said she could still go to the legislative convention and vote for who she wanted but she declined. She did agree that I could call her again before the convention to see if she changed her mind.

So no delegates for Hillary. I tried. But it appears she didn't have them in the first place no matter what some dishonest caucus worker wrote on their forms. And, yes, Bernie still got gypped out of one in the numbers tonight, and it's only one less person voting against him, not one voting for him at the legistlative convention.

It is a good day indeed that Hillary won't get that vote though at the convention.

Anybody know the number to call for voter fraud? I'd like to report it.

I will try this number Monday:
Washington 360-902-4151

navarth

(5,927 posts)
65. Righteous. Donating $50 more to Bernie tomorrow.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 08:17 PM
Mar 2016

These posts about Bernie winning states are like air freshener in a DU that has acquired a bad smell of late.

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