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Freddie Stubbs

(29,853 posts)
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:09 AM Mar 2016

Obama endorses DNC chair Wasserman Schultz for re-election to Congress

Source: UPI

WESTON, Fla., March 28 (UPI) -- President Barack Obama has endorsed Democratic National Committee Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz in her re-election bid in the House of Representatives as she faces a noticeable challenge from candidate Tim Canova.

"Debbie has been a strong, progressive leader in Congress and a hardworking, committed chair of our national party since I proudly nominated her to the role in 2011," Obama said in the endorsement announced by the Wasserman Schultz campaign. "Throughout my time as president I have seen Debbie bring an unwavering commitment to her family, her constituents, and our shared goals of protecting seniors, supporting working families and expanding economic opportunity for more people."

Wasserman Schultz will face off against Canova in the August Democratic primary for Florida's 23rd Congressional district, which has been historically held by Democrats.

"President Obama has led this country from the depths of the Great Recession to an unprecedented period of private-sector job growth and low unemployment, and I've been proud to stand by him and help advance his agenda in Congress," Wasserman Schultz said in a statement. "His endorsement means so much to me, and inspires me to work even harder for the people of Florida's 23rd Congressional district.

Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2016/03/28/Obama-endorses-DNC-chair-Wasserman-Schultz-for-re-election-to-Congress/7021459163875/

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Obama endorses DNC chair Wasserman Schultz for re-election to Congress (Original Post) Freddie Stubbs Mar 2016 OP
Keep on selling us out, we don't care Faux pas Mar 2016 #1
dont think u were sold out Cryptoad Mar 2016 #37
yeppers, she will back those pay day loaners all the way and not back down from the position hollysmom Mar 2016 #62
You make about as much sense as a cookie jar. Fuddnik Mar 2016 #64
Lol. Obama Is Obviously Scared billhicks76 Mar 2016 #77
Because they share the same things roguevalley Mar 2016 #107
Cryptoad lickin' them frogs again! Eh? FighttheFuture Mar 2016 #119
Even though your post is false, it does show that you believe DWS is a Hillary shill. cui bono Mar 2016 #143
Don't look in the rearview mirror. Tim Canova has our support. Gregorian Mar 2016 #2
Just sent Canova another donation. peacebird Mar 2016 #29
Me too NCjack Mar 2016 #47
Will send him my first today. Shame on Obama. DamnYankeeInHouston Mar 2016 #58
Bernie won't even become the DNC chair. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #68
President Benie Sanders can pick the head of the party. DamnYankeeInHouston Mar 2016 #75
You fear it may happen ? musiclawyer Mar 2016 #145
actually I'm not sure. Do you know if a President Sanders will be Independent party or change to D p Sunlei Mar 2016 #159
Hope they will rid her of office. OwlinAZ Mar 2016 #127
what a fucking idiot! Cobalt Violet Mar 2016 #3
So President Obama is a fucking idiot? hack89 Mar 2016 #6
No, not an idiot Scalded Nun Mar 2016 #9
not an idiot but seriously messed up. PatrynXX Mar 2016 #10
Does he have investments and/or partners in the Pay Day Loan business? DhhD Mar 2016 #45
good question Cobalt Violet Mar 2016 #72
he gets no pass from me. he just sold soldiers roguevalley Mar 2016 #108
he got my message. PatrynXX Mar 2016 #120
AMEN, PatrynXX secondwind Mar 2016 #138
.+1 840high Mar 2016 #125
NSA billhicks76 Mar 2016 #78
for endorsing DWS, yeah that's my opinion. Cobalt Violet Mar 2016 #16
I have no problem with "idiot' SusanaMontana41 Mar 2016 #136
This particular decsion was idiotic. n/t Gore1FL Mar 2016 #23
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #98
Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT. fleur-de-lisa Mar 2016 #14
not surprised that someone alerted. Cobalt Violet Mar 2016 #20
Yep. I don't believe the alert was due to the use of fleur-de-lisa Mar 2016 #25
This is what DU has become.... markj757 Mar 2016 #54
Did it hurt your little feelings? arcane1 Mar 2016 #56
I'd never take out a payday loan, they charge to much interest. Sunlei Mar 2016 #60
Obama and dws don't care roguevalley Mar 2016 #110
So sad to see him going out on a low note Roland99 Mar 2016 #32
Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #50
Don't like payday loans, but for people that need them Fl doesn't allow anything near 300%. Hoyt Mar 2016 #116
Good. nt onehandle Mar 2016 #4
whats good about attacking Elizabeth Warren PatrynXX Mar 2016 #12
Not for those of us in the traditional Democratic wing of the party. n/t Gore1FL Mar 2016 #24
Funny how he left out that she's the payday lender's best friend. CharlotteVale Mar 2016 #5
As with all these things, theaocp Mar 2016 #21
Her nomination was one of Obama's worst decisions ever. LibDemAlways Mar 2016 #7
And yet he hasn't replaced her Freddie Stubbs Mar 2016 #93
Why should he? lark Mar 2016 #109
Not up to him to replace her, our DNC could have if they cared to. Sunlei Mar 2016 #157
Forcing out Howard Dean and shitcanning the 50 state strategy was even worse. FighttheFuture Mar 2016 #121
Obama failed to protect working Americans from rapacious banksters Dems to Win Mar 2016 #8
Time to start donating to Tim Canova. Autumn Mar 2016 #11
Sending money today. Fuddnik Mar 2016 #51
Send lots Freddie Stubbs Mar 2016 #94
Weak tea. Blue State Bandit Mar 2016 #13
This is just wrong. ciaobaby Mar 2016 #15
Or it could be that he has had a long professional relationship with Congresswoman Wasserman Schultz Freddie Stubbs Mar 2016 #96
BOOOOOOOO!!!! MynameisBlarney Mar 2016 #17
Of course he did LittleGirl Mar 2016 #18
Another example of how he has let us down. mysuzuki2 Mar 2016 #19
I feel like I got conned into voting for Reagan or Bush. Cobalt Violet Mar 2016 #27
No, it's 'you' he let down. I wish we could run Obama a third term. Sunlei Mar 2016 #158
I think Tim Canova will win that election, he would be excellent in Congress. Sunlei Mar 2016 #22
Yes, especially considering how Bernie did in that area Freddie Stubbs Mar 2016 #26
I like what he supports & his teaching career, he has worked with Sanders. Sunlei Mar 2016 #43
Hope and change? Not so much. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #28
Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #30
The Democratic Party has left us TrueDemVA Mar 2016 #33
It left us before LiberalElite Mar 2016 #76
Interestingly, both parties have left their most reasonable or clear minded constituents. I say the TryLogic Mar 2016 #95
So what's the definition of "progressive" these days? AngryOldDem Mar 2016 #49
I guess it varies by the intended audience. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #101
Yes. roody Mar 2016 #139
all her Congress votes were firmly with the Democratic party, none were on Republican vote cluster. Sunlei Mar 2016 #160
That's certainly a disappointment. mnhtnbb Mar 2016 #31
In the end the Democratic voters of the district will make their choice. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #34
Endorsement Shows Desperation billhicks76 Mar 2016 #85
Really, I had the impression all the posts dividing the president's endorsement still_one Mar 2016 #86
FIRE DWS! Donate to Democratic Underground for Tim Canova FL-23 here Omaha Steve Mar 2016 #35
That is basically the only way to get rid of her as Chair. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #81
So this is what the Democratic Party stands for... Skwmom Mar 2016 #36
Gag me with a spoon... k8conant Mar 2016 #38
Does anyone feel like something is causing President Obama to be loyal to 3rd way? DemocracyDirect Mar 2016 #39
He seems to be weak on stuff he should be strong about; strong on stuff he should pulled away from. NCjack Mar 2016 #52
For seven years people have kept wondering what's been forcing President Obama to Gene Debs Mar 2016 #61
The more you think about it Daniel537 Mar 2016 #140
I feel like they are holding something over his head..yes I have noticed. bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #84
NSA billhicks76 Mar 2016 #88
This gets to the basic question about Obama. lark Mar 2016 #112
He is a centrist just like the 1st President Clinton Freddie Stubbs Mar 2016 #124
Clinton Was Friends With Bush Sr Since Early 80s billhicks76 Mar 2016 #135
This is frightening. DemocracyDirect Mar 2016 #153
Clinton Served Bush billhicks76 Mar 2016 #154
Now I am terrified. DemocracyDirect Mar 2016 #155
Jerry Brown billhicks76 Mar 2016 #156
Very Astute billhicks76 Mar 2016 #134
It's the threatened part that concerns me... DemocracyDirect Mar 2016 #147
He is loyal to 3rd way ibegurpard Mar 2016 #150
So, Obama now stands with predatory lenders? Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #40
Yes, because that is the only issue that Congress ever deals with Freddie Stubbs Mar 2016 #161
So, you are glossing over this as unimportant? Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #162
gag oldandhappy Mar 2016 #41
Barf. SHRED Mar 2016 #42
DAMN! elleng Mar 2016 #44
Sorry........................................wrong turbinetree Mar 2016 #46
Why does Obama consider it inappropriate to endorse in a presidential primary Eric J in MN Mar 2016 #48
One of the races involves an incumbent, the other does not Freddie Stubbs Mar 2016 #55
It is my opinion cannabis_flower Mar 2016 #92
I strongly agree. TryLogic Mar 2016 #103
proxy nt floppyboo Mar 2016 #59
Neither Hillary or Bernie are incumbents. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #74
Well, he's letting us know whose side he is on. arcane1 Mar 2016 #53
You're only just now seeing this? Gene Debs Mar 2016 #66
I've had his number since day one, but it's nice to see him being more open about it n/t arcane1 Mar 2016 #70
I guess the need to maintain any pretense has slipped away completely. Gene Debs Mar 2016 #80
Indeed. arcane1 Mar 2016 #87
He's on the side of long-time Democrats apparently Freddie Stubbs Mar 2016 #99
Exactly. Party over principle n/t arcane1 Mar 2016 #104
I'm sure that President Obama is very familiar with Ms. Wasserman Schultz's principles Freddie Stubbs Mar 2016 #122
Or lack thereof n/t arcane1 Mar 2016 #126
Well, that figure. villager Mar 2016 #57
This is leadership? EndElectoral Mar 2016 #63
Perhaps 2naSalit Mar 2016 #65
Excuse me, but I'm going to use a phrase that may be unfamiliar here ... staggerleem Mar 2016 #67
Very true. BunkieBandit Mar 2016 #146
The President does not "hand-pick" the party chair. staggerleem Apr 2016 #165
Oh Obama nooo!!!!!! wendylaroux Mar 2016 #69
He wouldn't do otherwise. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #71
He hasn't endorsed every incumbent with a primary challenge Freddie Stubbs Mar 2016 #115
But she's not JUST an incumbent. staggerleem Mar 2016 #164
Seriously!?.... freebrew Mar 2016 #73
Well, it led to another donation to her opponent Simongren Mar 2016 #79
I think hope and change was sincere when Obama was running. I certainly believed him. bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #82
This is like when some arrogant athletic director refuses to fire an incompetent coach because Still In Wisconsin Mar 2016 #83
Time For Warren To Endorse Bernie billhicks76 Mar 2016 #89
That will certainly help in the Massachusetts primary Freddie Stubbs Mar 2016 #91
I'm glad the Sanders campaign is persisting with the lawsuit... modestybl Mar 2016 #90
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #97
Debbie Wasserman Schultz planned to accuse Obama of being anti-woman and anti-Semitic Loudestlib Mar 2016 #100
Interesting. TryLogic Mar 2016 #105
I remember this story, too MBS Mar 2016 #117
if true he could undercut that in one fell swoop Liberty Belle Mar 2016 #152
Sickening - Just Sickening cantbeserious Mar 2016 #102
Thanks for nothing, Barry. SwankyXomb Mar 2016 #106
DWS and the TPP too! SoapBox Mar 2016 #111
Obama is just securing his lifetime membership to "the club". Just like the Clintons who became FighttheFuture Mar 2016 #123
Her internal numbers must be bad riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #113
This Makes me sick! montanacowboy Mar 2016 #114
Birds of a feather, natch! Wait until the TPP goes on through... we'll wish all we had we payday FighttheFuture Mar 2016 #118
So then he approves of 300% interest on payday loans INdemo Mar 2016 #128
Sad but hardly surprising. democrank Mar 2016 #129
Performance! Cryptoad Mar 2016 #130
Typical. TIME TO PANIC Mar 2016 #131
Very disappointing hopeforchange2008 Mar 2016 #132
Good for him. Tarheel_Dem Mar 2016 #133
very disappointing secondwind Mar 2016 #137
Payday Debbie? Of course he endorsed her. Daniel537 Mar 2016 #141
THANKS, OBAMA! LiberalElite Mar 2016 #142
Well he sure ain't no Bernie! cui bono Mar 2016 #144
Don't really care one way or the other... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #148
"Third way" lancer78 Mar 2016 #149
Excuse me while I throw up, please. Liberty Belle Mar 2016 #151
Bad Move, Mr. President Firestorm49 Mar 2016 #163

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
62. yeppers, she will back those pay day loaners all the way and not back down from the position
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:34 PM
Mar 2016

A vote for D W-S is a vote for money out of the poor pockets of the USA.
So nice to see who supports her.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
77. Lol. Obama Is Obviously Scared
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:47 PM
Mar 2016

Last edited Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:30 PM - Edit history (1)

Or returning a favor. Why would he lower himself to pick sides in a House primary?

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
143. Even though your post is false, it does show that you believe DWS is a Hillary shill.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 07:30 PM
Mar 2016

Thanks for admitting it!

.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
2. Don't look in the rearview mirror. Tim Canova has our support.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:20 AM
Mar 2016

And from what I'm hearing, Wasserman's district is sick of her.

DamnYankeeInHouston

(1,365 posts)
75. President Benie Sanders can pick the head of the party.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:45 PM
Mar 2016

While everyone is so busy watching the other side implode, I fear it may also be happening on our side. Does the DLC really want to drive away Bernie supporters' enthusiasm, money and youth?

musiclawyer

(2,335 posts)
145. You fear it may happen ?
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 07:46 PM
Mar 2016

It already did. The Democrativ Party long ago was infiltrated by 3rd way neoliberal Republicans lite. Obama and stupid compromise, zero Wall Street accountability and endless war are the result. The coup is complete if Hillary wins. The outcome is Middle class death for certain and what the powers that be think is perpetual oligarchy. But they are wrong .....

Dems have a choice. Go hard progressive with Bernie and resuscitate the party OR watch the party die as a new one, the party that Bernie's successors create amongst pissed off Dems, Indies, and areligious republicans blows off the doors starting in 2018 and beyond.

The status quo sucks balls if you are making less than 200k. And millions under that threshold from left to right every day realize they have been lied to all their life. Boomers die off and millennial non tv watching replacements accelerate the process.

The GOP is already dead and the Democratic Party is near death. Just that neither know it.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
159. actually I'm not sure. Do you know if a President Sanders will be Independent party or change to D p
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 07:18 AM
Mar 2016

D party?

Cobalt Violet

(9,905 posts)
3. what a fucking idiot!
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:24 AM
Mar 2016

Guess he just loves her 300% interest loans for the not so rich. Our party elites are out of touch to the point I can barely stand it anymore. If Bernie doesn't get the nomination I guess it will be time for me to move on. I hate Reaganomics and that what the dem. party now stands for.

Scalded Nun

(1,234 posts)
9. No, not an idiot
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:38 AM
Mar 2016

Just a continuation of selling out progressives to the benefit of corporate Dems.

It is not like this is something new.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
10. not an idiot but seriously messed up.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:40 AM
Mar 2016

she must have really protected his behind for something. What does he owe her? It was more Howard Dean than got him in.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
45. Does he have investments and/or partners in the Pay Day Loan business?
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:13 PM
Mar 2016

New Democrats like DWS, triangulate between the poor who buy a payday loan and the profiteers of payday loans with the legislators who regulate payday loans and their business practices.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
120. he got my message.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 02:01 PM
Mar 2016

whether he reads them or not. Endorsing DWS is attacking Elizabeth Warren I see no difference.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
78. NSA
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:48 PM
Mar 2016

Remember when he flip flopped on that. They are the only ones who can answer these questions because they had his phone and email records going back 15 years at least.

Response to hack89 (Reply #6)

fleur-de-lisa

(14,624 posts)
14. Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:46 AM
Mar 2016

On Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:35 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

what a fucking idiot!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1393893

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

President Obama is a "fucking idiot"? What has happened to the discourse on this great site? People can't disagree, without resorting to this stuff?

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:44 AM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I love PBO and would normally vote to hide such criticism of him. But given what DWS stands for and the shittiness of her stance on the payday loan industry, this endorsement is mind blowing. Leave it.
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I thought the post was over the top, rude, and inappropriate
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given

Cobalt Violet

(9,905 posts)
20. not surprised that someone alerted.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:53 AM
Mar 2016

Hillary's supporters have no tolerance of any opinion other than the one inside their bubble.

fleur-de-lisa

(14,624 posts)
25. Yep. I don't believe the alert was due to the use of
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:57 AM
Mar 2016

the phrase 'what a fucking idiot'. It was simply another ridiculous alert against a Bernie supporter.

Ugh! I can't wait until Bernie wraps this thing up!

 

markj757

(194 posts)
54. This is what DU has become....
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:25 PM
Mar 2016

Bernie supporters calling the President a fucking idiot, then voting to LEAVE IT ALONE. It's a fucking shame.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
56. Did it hurt your little feelings?
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:26 PM
Mar 2016

Take out a payday loan and buy yourself something nice. Maybe a nice hat:

Response to Cobalt Violet (Reply #3)

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
116. Don't like payday loans, but for people that need them Fl doesn't allow anything near 300%.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:46 PM
Mar 2016

In fact, a borrower can only have one outstanding loan at a time, limited to $500. And they are discouraged from taking out any loans. Unfortunately, some people have no other choice at times. Until we do something about that, Florida's law seems pretty good.

You need to check on facts before spreading BS.

http://www.flofr.com/StaticPages/PaydayLenders.htm

theaocp

(4,231 posts)
21. As with all these things,
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:54 AM
Mar 2016

he's either on board or ignorant of what is going on. Neither option is appealing. What a fucking mess.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
7. Her nomination was one of Obama's worst decisions ever.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:35 AM
Mar 2016

She's been incredibly effective in getting Republicans elected and is a DINO to the core. Very happy to see a real Democrat in the race to unseat her. Maybe some payday loan shark will give her a job when she's voted out.

 

FighttheFuture

(1,313 posts)
121. Forcing out Howard Dean and shitcanning the 50 state strategy was even worse.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 02:05 PM
Mar 2016

Then he put in that Milksop Tim Kaine.... ughh. Now Debbie Wasserman-Shits. Part and parcel for our DLC like 3rd-way Corporatist Democratic President.

 

Dems to Win

(2,161 posts)
8. Obama failed to protect working Americans from rapacious banksters
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:37 AM
Mar 2016

Obama failed to hold accountable the banksters who stole homes from millions of Americans via mortgage fraud.

It's not surprising at all that Obama would support a Congresswoman who is going to bat for payday lenders who prey on the poor.

Go Tim Canova!

Blue State Bandit

(2,122 posts)
13. Weak tea.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:42 AM
Mar 2016

Weak DNC chair.

Weak on Wall Street.

Weak on campaign finance reform.

Weak on being a decent human being.

 

ciaobaby

(1,000 posts)
15. This is just wrong.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:49 AM
Mar 2016

I think it is a result of Warren coming out against TPP. It's the best I can come up with. Kinda ruins my day.

LittleGirl

(8,277 posts)
18. Of course he did
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:52 AM
Mar 2016

She's establishment and he's doing his job as leader of the DNC. Her boss.

but we all know, she's done. DONE.

Cobalt Violet

(9,905 posts)
27. I feel like I got conned into voting for Reagan or Bush.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:59 AM
Mar 2016

Never again. I won't do it again. I will only cast votes for a true progressive with a true progressive record from now on. The hardest thing for me is accepting the party's FDR values have been replace with Reagan's values.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
43. I like what he supports & his teaching career, he has worked with Sanders.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:09 PM
Mar 2016

Obama gave a weak endorsement to D Schultz.

In Congress she did back the admin. on those issues he stated, but "hardworking, committed chair" for DNC isn't a glowing endorsement at all.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
28. Hope and change? Not so much.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:59 AM
Mar 2016

The fact that he called her a progressive is the most astounding part of this. Has the Democratic party really sunk that low?

Response to BillZBubb (Reply #28)

TrueDemVA

(250 posts)
33. The Democratic Party has left us
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:02 PM
Mar 2016

Progressives and true liberals have been abandoned by our party. This is just the icing on the cake.

TryLogic

(1,722 posts)
95. Interestingly, both parties have left their most reasonable or clear minded constituents. I say the
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:11 PM
Mar 2016

the problem is big money radicals.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
49. So what's the definition of "progressive" these days?
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:23 PM
Mar 2016

I had to laugh to myself this morning when I heard that the Clinton campaign's excuse for losing over the weekend was that there were a lot of progressives and not a lot of minorities in those caucus states.

Shouldn't that be sending some kind of message to Debbie and the DNC?

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
101. I guess it varies by the intended audience.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:16 PM
Mar 2016

A lot of Democrats these days call themselves progressives. Judging from the primaries a lot of them are not.

One thing can be said for certain: Anyone who defends and supports payday lenders is NOT a progressive.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
160. all her Congress votes were firmly with the Democratic party, none were on Republican vote cluster.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 07:22 AM
Mar 2016

I think social media 'news' has removed your understanding of our governments actual 'actions from the real world.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
34. In the end the Democratic voters of the district will make their choice.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:04 PM
Mar 2016

It will be very interesting to see what they do.

still_one

(92,055 posts)
86. Really, I had the impression all the posts dividing the president's endorsement
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:52 PM
Mar 2016

we're from her district in Flirida, at least they sound like it

LiberalFighter

(50,747 posts)
81. That is basically the only way to get rid of her as Chair.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:50 PM
Mar 2016

Although she still could be elected to that position. But she would have a loss hanging over her head that would not be good. Of course, Dean was chair but he was better at messaging than Debbie.

k8conant

(3,030 posts)
38. Gag me with a spoon...
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:07 PM
Mar 2016

payday lenders >> "expanding economic opportunity for more people." Yeah, themselves!

 

DemocracyDirect

(708 posts)
39. Does anyone feel like something is causing President Obama to be loyal to 3rd way?
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:08 PM
Mar 2016

I'm a pretty good judge of character and I feel like he has enemies on both sides and is stuck between a rock and a hard place.

I've noticed his attitude is changing a bit as he gets closer to January.

By the way, I don't appreciate anyone calling PBO such harsh words. It didn't deserve a hide, but let's be respectful. If I heard a Republican say that, I would defend him.

 

Gene Debs

(582 posts)
61. For seven years people have kept wondering what's been forcing President Obama to
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:34 PM
Mar 2016

embrace all these Third-Way, Neo-liberal, corporatist policies, as if he's fighting tooth and nail for the right thing, but the forces of evil just push him in the wrong direction at every turn. Isn't the far more simple and logical explanation that he's always been a Third-Way, Neo-liberal corporatist? I mean, at some point, you just have to acknowledge that the emperor is, in fact, naked.

 

Daniel537

(1,560 posts)
140. The more you think about it
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 07:01 PM
Mar 2016

the more one realizes we were bamboozled in 2008 once it was down to Clinton v. Obama. The more progressive candidates were pushed out early on and ultimately we ended up getting the same health care mandate Clinton wanted along with the same free trade agreements and foreign policy she supported. The oligarchs won before a single vote was even cast.

lark

(23,058 posts)
112. This gets to the basic question about Obama.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:40 PM
Mar 2016

Is he a true Trojan Horse president, knowingly pretending to be progressive but not ruling that way or is he a progressive who has been bribed or threatened to rule as a moderate Repug? After 7 years, I'm still not sure which?

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
135. Clinton Was Friends With Bush Sr Since Early 80s
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 03:57 PM
Mar 2016

Very different. This is more about allegiances than governing.

 

DemocracyDirect

(708 posts)
153. This is frightening.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:45 AM
Mar 2016

Someone told me that Richard Nixon was a protege of Prescott Bush.
And that Richard Nixon was one of the most active Vice Presidents under Eisenhower.

George H W Bush was part of the Nixon and Ford administrations and then became head of the CIA in 1976 and then Vice President in 1980 and President in 1988.

It feels like other than Clinton and Obama it's been a lot of Bush.


 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
154. Clinton Served Bush
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 03:02 AM
Mar 2016

They attended many private parties for decades before Bill left office. Bush Sr is probably involved with many heinous assassinations.

 

DemocracyDirect

(708 posts)
155. Now I am terrified.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 03:16 AM
Mar 2016

Why aren't people talking about this?

It sounds like you are suggesting that might have something to do with why they are loyal to 3rd way economic policy?

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
156. Jerry Brown
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 03:34 AM
Mar 2016

I vividly recall Clinton(Bush's friend although not publicized) coming out of nowhere once Perot entered the race to derail Bush for personal reasons. The PBS Roundtable debate was unconventional. Jerry was allowed to throw a photo up on the big screen. It had horrible optics. It was a prison boot camp...one of the first private prisons. It had all Black men in stripped fatigues and chained ankle to ankle like the old movies. Sam Nunn and Bill Clinton were inspecting the "troops" like an old Nazi camp scene. Bill turned beet red and muttered threateningly at Jerry and I quote ,"You don't know what you're messing with Jerry". It was obvious to me he meant things had already been decided and Bush Sr had recovered just fine from Iran Contra 4 years earlier and felt invincible. Bill was most certainly wrapped up in it all since the early 80s.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
162. So, you are glossing over this as unimportant?
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:49 AM
Mar 2016

Somehow I don't think you would be so dismissive if she were endorsing Sanders. Obama's endorsement would then be seen as a betrayal.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
41. gag
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:09 PM
Mar 2016

I really appreciate Obama as president and would gladly repeat my two votes for him. He has been amazing during extremely difficult terms. AND, I guess he is finished! Supporting clinton and DWS is not right for me. These things tarnish him for now but are probably peanuts in terms of history.

turbinetree

(24,683 posts)
46. Sorry........................................wrong
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:15 PM
Mar 2016

she has received over $30,000 FROM THE PAY DAY LENDER LOAN SHARKS, who charge women almost 400% in loan pay back costs on average around the country, who are more than likely trying to feed there kids, send them to school, making on average $8.25 a hour and then going back to the same criminals and starting another line of rip--off loan sharking, because the last pay check doesn't cover the costs of the last loan shark loan, so they take out another loan shark loan, and she Wasserman-Shultz with her "republican allies", basically wants to dismantle the CFPB (Consumer Financial Protection Bureau , ------------------really , and she has lost more seats in Congress, than any other chair in the DNC.

And, if voting for TPP qualifies for being a progressive, and voting for the continuation of developing a third rate country, and more jobs being lost with the mantra, that globalization will lift people up---------------go to the Iron Range in Minnesota and see what NAFTA has done, and what the TPP will finish off, my answer to that is which oligarchy gets lifted up with more greed and outsourcing jobs.

NAFTA was a failure, look at what Keystone is trying to do, sue the country and the people because they can't make a buck and she voted YEA for TPP along with 23 other people in the DINO Third Way party.

And if you get educated will make you better, to be a better worker in the globalization scheme of things --------------------really, paying workers pennies on the dollar outside the country based on pure greed, and then telling people that if they get the skill sets through education here to have better life style, while they are going going bankrupt to pay off a student debt does not make you a progressive, it makes you a DINO, you've outsourced the jobs, and then what's left?

I have a Bachelor of Science Degree, I cannot complete against someone that more than likely has at the most a 8th grade education in a sweat shop, (like in I don't know Vietnam, Brunei, Singapore, or works in China under a communist government contolled system, and if you want to do business in that country you have to basically set up shop and give them your R&D stuff to make the same stuff that was made in the original country, because if you don't belong to the communist party you don't get an education), against the same workers in this country and around the world , what am I missing here-----------------------greed------------check, sensibility/ fairness--------------------------not on this watch------------------check, ect......................

And then if you go to the TPP web site-------------your get this commercial front and center:

https://ustr.gov/tpp/

I think if I lived in the 23rd District of Florida my vote will or would be going for Tim Canova, that's being progressive.--------------check

https://timcanova.com/



Honk------------------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016


Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
48. Why does Obama consider it inappropriate to endorse in a presidential primary
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:21 PM
Mar 2016

..but appropriate to endorse in a House primary?

cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
92. It is my opinion
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:05 PM
Mar 2016

that it is inappropriate to endorse in a primary, whether the person being endorsed is an incumbent or not.

LiberalFighter

(50,747 posts)
74. Neither Hillary or Bernie are incumbents.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:44 PM
Mar 2016

Debbie is and I'm sure Obama will do many more endorsements for congressional members.

Freddie Stubbs

(29,853 posts)
99. He's on the side of long-time Democrats apparently
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:15 PM
Mar 2016

Considering that Wasserman Schultz's opponent has been a registered Democrat for less than a year.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
57. Well, that figure.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:28 PM
Mar 2016

I guess we can still say Obama's been our best Republican President since Lincoln, though...

2naSalit

(86,292 posts)
65. Perhaps
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:35 PM
Mar 2016

he has done it because he may "owe her" but it might also be that her political career is burnt, soggy toast anyway and it wouldn't matter is Jebus endorsed her...?

Just a thought. I don't' like a lot of the decisions the president makes but doesn't mean I will understand his rationale for each one either.

I personally hope she loses her hind end in this upcoming election.

 

staggerleem

(469 posts)
67. Excuse me, but I'm going to use a phrase that may be unfamiliar here ...
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:36 PM
Mar 2016

... "Politics as usual." The sitting President is the nominal leader of his party, as well as the nation as a whole. The party leadership, in their dubious wisdom, selected Ms. Dubya-Schultz as the National Party Chairperson. Forgive me, but I do not see a graceful way for the President to NOT endorse a national party chairperson who is running for office. He may not have been terribly happy to make this endorsement, but had to make it nonetheless - anything else would be unseemly indeed!

Maybe, after the endorsement, the President did what Bill Maher did last Friday night. After saying that given ONLY the choice between President Donald Trump and President Ted Cruz, he would have to pick Cruz (Ted has the thicker skin, was essentially his reason) Maher washed his mouth out from a bottle labeled "BLEACH". I know I'd be tempted to do that if I was in Obama's position.

BunkieBandit

(82 posts)
146. Very true.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 08:00 PM
Mar 2016

How would it look if he hadn't endorsed someone he hand-picked for chair, although his position is lose/lose at best.

 

staggerleem

(469 posts)
165. The President does not "hand-pick" the party chair.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 12:29 PM
Apr 2016

I believe the choice is made by a party leadership committee, which may or may not include the President.

I'm hoping they ALL get embarrassed, and Debbie loses her primary, and FL23 gets a new, progressive, small-d democratic representative in Tim Canova.

 

staggerleem

(469 posts)
164. But she's not JUST an incumbent.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:28 PM
Mar 2016

She's the national chairperson of the sitting President's party. How on Earth can he NOT endorse her without having the ENTIRE party look like a bunch of morons?

Simongren

(8 posts)
79. Well, it led to another donation to her opponent
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:49 PM
Mar 2016

I normally donate closer to home, but her stance for usurious interest led me to donate to her opponent. However, I wouldn't have been reminded of her favoring usury if he hadn't endorsed her.

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
82. I think hope and change was sincere when Obama was running. I certainly believed him.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:51 PM
Mar 2016

But maybe they (whoever they may be) have something on him that made him make the decisions he has made. (TPP, CPI, etc)

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
83. This is like when some arrogant athletic director refuses to fire an incompetent coach because
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:51 PM
Mar 2016

he's the one who hired him/her. DWS has given NO evidence that she should be retained, and much that she should not.

Bad, bad call Mr. President. He doesn't need to endorse Canova but there's no way he should be endorsing DWS.

 

modestybl

(458 posts)
90. I'm glad the Sanders campaign is persisting with the lawsuit...
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:00 PM
Mar 2016

... this corrupt shill needs to be exposed.

Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)

Loudestlib

(980 posts)
100. Debbie Wasserman Schultz planned to accuse Obama of being anti-woman and anti-Semitic
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:16 PM
Mar 2016

Wasserman Schultz has a different sense of herself. According to people who spoke with her, when she sensed Obama was considering replacing her as chair in 2013, she began to line up supporters to suggest the move was both anti-woman and anti-Semitic. Under fire last fall for her leadership, she took Obama’s decision not to remove her then as evidence of renewed strength and said she was confident no one could get her out of the DNC before her term is over at the beginning of 2017, according to sources who’ve spoken with her. She’s also been known to joke around the office about how having a vacation home in New Hampshire might one day be helpful in a presidential run.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/02/senate-bid-could-be-solution-for-wasserman-schultz-115373#ixzz44Dcynzot
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Liberty Belle

(9,531 posts)
152. if true he could undercut that in one fell swoop
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:18 AM
Mar 2016

If he were to endorse Senator Sanders, who is Jewish, or if he wasn't willing to do that, state that the superdelegates should support whoever gets the most votes, after all to do otherwise if Sanders wins the popular vote would make it appear that the Democratic Party is anti-semitic. Hoist her with her own petard.

Apart from her actions as essentially a part of the Clinton campaign when the DNC has not made a pre-primary endorsement, her actions regarding the pay day lenders alone should be enough to toss her out as party leader.

SwankyXomb

(2,030 posts)
106. Thanks for nothing, Barry.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:25 PM
Mar 2016

You just guaranteed at least 2 more years of Republicans ruling Congress, thanks to your endorsement of Debbie Weasel-Shit.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
111. DWS and the TPP too!
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:35 PM
Mar 2016

Disappointment after disappointment.

The Elites just cannot help themselves, it seems.

GO Tim Canova! Donate...anyway you can...money and / or time!

 

FighttheFuture

(1,313 posts)
123. Obama is just securing his lifetime membership to "the club". Just like the Clintons who became
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 02:08 PM
Mar 2016

incredibly rich after they left the Whitehouse.

How The Clintons Have Made $230 Million Since Leaving The White House

Less than a week before the Clintons left the White House in 2001... a couple who had more than $1 million in legal debt and a net worth of nearly nothing at the time. ... Over the next 15 years, they earned more than $230 million before taxes.

The money flowed in fast. Bill delivered the first of hundreds of high-paying speeches on February 5, 2001, less than three weeks after he left the presidency, talking to Morgan Stanley in New York for $125,000. The firm got a bargain. Bill eventually raised his average rate to roughly $225,000 per speech, in some cases charging $500,000, ... All told, he raked in about $100 million from speaking from 2001 to 2014.
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Hillary didn’t bring in the sort of money her husband did until 2013, when she left her post as Secretary of State. She quickly jumped into a lucrative speaking tour, starting, as Bill had 12 years earlier, by giving a speech to Morgan Stanley. On April 18, 2013, she spoke to the firm and charged $225,000. She continued speaking throughout the year, talking exclusively to audiences in the United States and Canada, never charging less than $225,000 for a paid speech. By the end of the year, she had earned $9 million from speaking.
 

FighttheFuture

(1,313 posts)
118. Birds of a feather, natch! Wait until the TPP goes on through... we'll wish all we had we payday
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:57 PM
Mar 2016

loansharks to deal with! Thanks Obama!

 

Daniel537

(1,560 posts)
141. Payday Debbie? Of course he endorsed her.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 07:10 PM
Mar 2016

At this point it wouldn't surprise me if he gave Kissinger the Presidential Medal of Freedom. The elites look after each other and always will. DNC should just rename itself the DLC to make it official.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
148. Don't really care one way or the other...
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 10:16 PM
Mar 2016

That being said my uncle lived in Century Village, smack dab in the middle of her district. It's practically made for her. Hillary carried it with over 70% of the vote.

Firestorm49

(4,028 posts)
163. Bad Move, Mr. President
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:52 AM
Mar 2016

DSW has been a disgrace to the Democratic Party. Under her lack of leadership, democrats have lost control of far too many states, state government positions, local courts, appeals courts, and on and on. Meanwhile, the GOP master plan of taking over on the grass roots level has flourished. The result is repulsive voter restrictions, injection of religion into politics, restrictions on the right of a woman to decide what's best for her, an on, and on, and on.
DSW has not served the party well, the results are easily observable. Where are the democratic voters in the primaries? Schultz has done nothing to inspire the rank and file democrats in this country. The republicans are coming out in record setting numbers. This could go on all day.
Boot DSW now!

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