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Thu Apr 28, 2016, 04:18 PM

16 US Military Personnel Disciplined in Afghanistan Hospital Strike

Source: NBC News

Sixteen U.S. military officials have been disciplined in their roles in the bombing of a Doctors Without Borders hospital in Afghanistan, according to a senior defense official, NBC News reported.

The official said the punishments will be non-judicial, and some will be career-ending. No criminal charges are pending.

Multiple defense officials told NBC News that the report into the investigation of the bombing in the city of Kunduz will be released on Friday. The new commander of U.S. Central Command, General Joseph Votel, will brief the findings.

President Barack Obama has apologized for the Oct. 3 airstrike, which was conducted as Afghan troops tried to retake the city from the Taliban. The top U.S. commander in Afghanistan called the bombing a "tragic mistake."

Read more: http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/Military-to-Release-Report-on-Doctors-Without-Borders-Hospital-Attack-Friday-377394321.html



For those of you keeping score, know that Russia hasn't even admitted any wrongdoing for any of the hospitals they have attacked, including the one earlier today...

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Reply 16 US Military Personnel Disciplined in Afghanistan Hospital Strike (Original post)
Blue_Tires Apr 2016 OP
AuntPatsy Apr 2016 #1
Blue_Tires Apr 2016 #3
Fairgo Apr 2016 #2
Blue_Tires Apr 2016 #4
Fairgo Apr 2016 #5
Blandocyte Apr 2016 #7
Blue_Tires Apr 2016 #9
ronnie624 Apr 2016 #10
Fairgo Apr 2016 #12
Tactical Peek Apr 2016 #8
TipTok Apr 2016 #13
EX500rider Apr 2016 #6
happyslug Apr 2016 #14
EX500rider Apr 2016 #15
happyslug Apr 2016 #16
warrprayer Apr 2016 #11

Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 04:23 PM

1. Oh goody, we apologized...I'm sure that will make it all better...

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Response to AuntPatsy (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 04:28 PM

3. And that's still more than any other nation would have done...

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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 04:28 PM

2. The red mist accepts your apologies

Their children, not so much.

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Response to Fairgo (Reply #2)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 04:30 PM

4. Is any apology coming for this?

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #4)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 04:32 PM

5. I reject your sophism

The logic of your argument forsakes the values of democracy and leaps into the sewer to fight your neighbour for the last warm rat.

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Response to Fairgo (Reply #5)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 05:30 PM

7. I have no idea what that means

but I'm going to use that sometime! Very good!

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Response to Fairgo (Reply #5)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:31 AM

9. Your rejection isn't a refutation...

And the truth behind my argument stand regardless of whether or not you choose to accept it.

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #9)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:53 AM

10. Saying, 'they do it too', isn't an argument.

It's a diversion, thus a logical fallacy.

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #9)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 03:43 PM

12. The warm rat is yours

enjoy

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #4)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 06:43 PM

8. Maybe in six months?



Apparently it takes that long to review the video and audio of a major clusterfuck to determine that yes, this was indeed a major clusterfuck.

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Response to Tactical Peek (Reply #8)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 11:05 PM

13. Ahh the sound of someone who has never done a 15-6 investigation...

 

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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 05:00 PM

6. Maybe they will start marking their hospitals from the air...

.....as required in a war zone.

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Response to EX500rider (Reply #6)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 11:26 PM

14. They did that, it was bombed anyway

 

They had even given there location coordinates to the US. Thus it was a known hospital. It was clear at the time that this was a hospital.

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Response to happyslug (Reply #14)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 08:54 AM

15. If it was properly marked from the air they wouldn't have confused it with the Intelligence..

.....building that they thought they were hitting.

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Response to EX500rider (Reply #15)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 03:02 PM

16. That is why the discipline

 

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The people involved knew or should have known it was a hospital. A request was made to hit it and everyone involved ignored that it was marked as a hospital. The bombing was ordered and done and no one asked why a hospital was being hit. Everyone involved should be up on charges, but I suspect the orders as to what can be bombed were so vague that it is enough to defeat the criminal charges thus this level of discipline.

It was reported at the time of the bombing that the voice recording recorded the air crew questioning the order, but were told to destroy the hospital anyway. Thus whoever over ruled the pilot should be charged, but I suspect that is above the pay grade of whoever is doing this investigation.

In the military any investigation must be done by someone senior to anyone involved, thus if a general over ruled the pilot a higher grade general must lead the investigation. Thus this may not be done yet.

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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 11:29 AM

11. Abu Ghraib

Crucify a few low level personnel and CYA, the objective was still achieved.

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