Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:15 AM

7962 (11,841 posts)

Green Beret who beat up accused child rapist can stay in Army

Source: Army Times

The Army has reversed course and decided to allow a Green Beret to stay in uniform, months after his reprimand for roughing up an accused child rapist in Afghanistan.

Sgt. 1st Class Charles Martland found out last August that he was to be booted out of service, a casualty of the Army’s Qualitative Management Program, an involuntary separation measure for soldiers with black marks on their records. Since then, the soldier has been fighting to remain in the Army.

The Army Board for Correction of Military Records reviewed Martland’s case and decided to remove the soldier from the QMP list, confirmed Army spokesman Lt. Col. Jerry Pionk in an emailed statement Thursday night.The board's action "will allow him to remain in the Army," Pionk said.

Martland has admitted he lost his cool on his 2011 deployment to Konduz province, Afghanistan. That's when he and his captain struck an Afghan local police officer — one who had allegedly confessed to raping a boy and then beating the child's mother for telling authorities. Martland said that he and the detachment commander, Capt. Daniel Quinn, received a “relief for cause” from that 2011 deployment for the assault, according to documentation provided to Army Times.

Read more: http://www.armytimes.com/story/military/2016/04/28/green-beret-who-beat-up-accused-child-rapist-can-stay-army/83679604/

This Afghan even laughed about the abuse when originally confronted.

Martland should have never been threatened for standing up for the child & his mother

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Green Beret who beat up accused child rapist can stay in Army (Original post)	7962	Apr 2016	OP
This is the correct decision.	iandhr	Apr 2016	#1
I agree. I personally know someone who had to negotiate with local Afghan chiefs	underpants	Apr 2016	#3
I was in Zabul Province, Kabul, and Khandahar...	mark67	Apr 2016	#23
That's sound familiar	underpants	Apr 2016	#24
The other saying is “Why do birds fly in circles over Kandahar? Because they’re covering their ass"	EX500rider	Apr 2016	#35
Not as SF though...	TipTok	Apr 2016	#39
I say a lot of people here would have done the same thing to the rapist.	WhoWoodaKnew	Apr 2016	#2
Straw man	Tempest	Apr 2016	#26
You totally missed the point.	WhoWoodaKnew	Apr 2016	#45
Good!	MynameisBlarney	Apr 2016	#4
Vigilante justice by soldiers is considered a war crime	Tempest	Apr 2016	#5
It is not a crime in Afghanistan to rape a boy.. that is the core of the issue here.	secondwind	Apr 2016	#6
So lets all go around town beating up accused pedophiles?	Cheese Sandwich	Apr 2016	#7
If not for vigilante justice, there would be no justice	christx30	Apr 2016	#9
Cool now US soldiers can murder anyone and get out of it by calling them a pedo.	Cheese Sandwich	Apr 2016	#10
Maybe this will help you out. I doubt it, but its worth a shot	7962	Apr 2016	#12
Post removed	Post removed	Apr 2016	#16
Logical fallacy	Tempest	Apr 2016	#27
The alternative to doing something about it	christx30	Apr 2016	#28
The Afghani was not killed.	7962	Apr 2016	#11
You mean after the trial of course, otherwise its summary execution unless of course I	cstanleytech	Apr 2016	#20
I know I may well put a bullet through a guy who did that to my son.	7962	Apr 2016	#42
Wow, you really do like to distort things. nt	cstanleytech	Apr 2016	#43
He should have neutralized him instead	Reter	Apr 2016	#8
Vigilante Justice!!	philosslayer	Apr 2016	#13
Good.	NuclearDem	Apr 2016	#14
I'm sure that child and his mother are grateful that someone cared enough to take action	eissa	Apr 2016	#15
Its amazing how a few here dont understand what you just said.	7962	Apr 2016	#17
I've been here long enough to see enough DUers defend pedophiles	eissa	Apr 2016	#18
He didn't step in	Tempest	Apr 2016	#25
You support turning a blind eye to rapists. n/t	christx30	Apr 2016	#29
Sadly, you obviously know nothing of what you speak,	7962	Apr 2016	#40
They live in a patriarchal society ruled by authoritarian men who hold all the power.	procon	Apr 2016	#38
Very good.	840high	Apr 2016	#19
Good. Fuck rapists.	Odin2005	Apr 2016	#21
I am happy vigilante justice	MyNameGoesHere	Apr 2016	#22
If he wasn't in uniform, the vigilantes wouldn't be so keen on applauding lawbreakers.	procon	Apr 2016	#30
Don't be so sure he'd be in jail in the USA.	branford	Apr 2016	#31
Then where does it stop?	procon	Apr 2016	#32
In the real world, matters are not so simple and binary.	branford	Apr 2016	#34
This was the military board, not a civilian court,	procon	Apr 2016	#37
A military board has similar discretion to civilian prosecutors.	branford	Apr 2016	#46
Doubtful a US jury would vote to convict a similar action here.	7962	Apr 2016	#41
De oppresso liber	mahina	Apr 2016	#33
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Apr 2016	#36
"I don't feel bad for the victim if you can call him that." If he actually did what	cstanleytech	Apr 2016	#44

Response to 7962 (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:25 AM

iandhr (6,852 posts)

1. This is the correct decision.

The asshole laughed when confronted about the sexual of a child?

He should absolutely be allowed to stay in the military.

Green Beret who beat up accused child rapist can stay in Army

1. This is the correct decision.

3. I agree. I personally know someone who had to negotiate with local Afghan chiefs

23. I was in Zabul Province, Kabul, and Khandahar...

24. That's sound familiar

35. The other saying is “Why do birds fly in circles over Kandahar? Because they’re covering their ass"

39. Not as SF though...

2. I say a lot of people here would have done the same thing to the rapist.

26. Straw man

45. You totally missed the point.

4. Good!

5. Vigilante justice by soldiers is considered a war crime

6. It is not a crime in Afghanistan to rape a boy.. that is the core of the issue here.

7. So lets all go around town beating up accused pedophiles?

9. If not for vigilante justice, there would be no justice

10. Cool now US soldiers can murder anyone and get out of it by calling them a pedo.

12. Maybe this will help you out. I doubt it, but its worth a shot

27. Logical fallacy

28. The alternative to doing something about it

11. The Afghani was not killed.

20. You mean after the trial of course, otherwise its summary execution unless of course I

42. I know I may well put a bullet through a guy who did that to my son.

43. Wow, you really do like to distort things. nt

8. He should have neutralized him instead

13. Vigilante Justice!!

14. Good.

15. I'm sure that child and his mother are grateful that someone cared enough to take action

17. Its amazing how a few here dont understand what you just said.

18. I've been here long enough to see enough DUers defend pedophiles

25. He didn't step in

29. You support turning a blind eye to rapists. n/t

40. Sadly, you obviously know nothing of what you speak,

38. They live in a patriarchal society ruled by authoritarian men who hold all the power.

19. Very good.

21. Good. Fuck rapists.

22. I am happy vigilante justice

30. If he wasn't in uniform, the vigilantes wouldn't be so keen on applauding lawbreakers.

31. Don't be so sure he'd be in jail in the USA.

32. Then where does it stop?

34. In the real world, matters are not so simple and binary.

37. This was the military board, not a civilian court,

46. A military board has similar discretion to civilian prosecutors.

41. Doubtful a US jury would vote to convict a similar action here.

33. De oppresso liber

44. "I don't feel bad for the victim if you can call him that." If he actually did what