Wed May 4, 2016, 08:46 PM

Deadlines loom for answers in Clinton email probe as U.S. judge sets discovery

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Source: Washington Post

A federal judge on Wednesday directed State Department officials and top aides to Hillary Clinton to answer questions under oath by June 29 about whether they intentionally thwarted federal open-records laws by allowing Clinton’s use of a private email server throughout her tenure as secretary of state from 2009 to 2013.

The decision by U.S. District Judge Emmet G. Sullivan in Washington sets the stage for responses before July’s presidential nominating conventions — but does not ensure cooperation — from at least six current and former top officials, including Cheryl D. Mills, who was Clinton’s chief of staff at State; Huma Abedin, Mills’s deputy who now is vice chairman of Clinton’s Democratic presidential campaign; and Bryan Pagliano, a Clinton staff member during her 2008 presidential campaign who helped set up the private server.

While Sullivan did not permit questioning of Clinton herself for now, he wrote that the conservative legal watchdog group Judicial Watch may ask to do so later if it thinks “based on information learned during discovery, the deposition of Mrs. Clinton may be necessary.”

Sullivan’s 15-page written opinion and order came after lawyers for the government agreed to a narrowed scope of questions requested by Judicial Watch. The group filed a lawsuit over its 2013 public-records request for information concerning Abedin’s employment arrangement.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/deadlines-loom-for-answers-in-clinton-email-probe-as-us-judge-sets-discovery/2016/05/04/a661d4e2-121e-11e6-93ae-50921721165d_story.html

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Deadlines loom for answers in Clinton email probe as U.S. judge sets discovery (Original post)	Land of Enchantment	May 2016	OP
Here's her answer: no. She didn't. She knew that all her emails to and from .gov	pnwmom	May 2016	#1
Explains why the government had to ask her	Press Virginia	May 2016	#6
The state department had to repeatedly ask for Clinton's emails	NWCorona	May 2016	#14
No, they asked her once. She didn't resist. But it took a month to go through 55,000 emails.	pnwmom	May 2016	#15
Not true. They asked for them multiple times going back to June 2014	NWCorona	May 2016	#16
Link, please. Here's mine.	pnwmom	May 2016	#21
And here's mine.	NWCorona	May 2016	#23
Yes she did. She had her lawyers stiff arm the State Department	Ash_F	May 2016	#18
Link, please. n/t	pnwmom	May 2016	#20
Here	Ash_F	May 2016	#24
. . .	pnwmom	May 2016	#25
Negotiations began in August	Ash_F	May 2016	#27
Whatever the heck that means. n/t	pnwmom	May 2016	#28
It means it did not take them "1 month"	Ash_F	May 2016	#29
It took them five weeks from the time the letter was sent. And there was no official	pnwmom	May 2016	#30
Right just State Department officials making a request	Ash_F	May 2016	#31
The only thing we know for sure is that an official written request was sent on October 28.	pnwmom	May 2016	#32
I don't think the Times was the only news source that reported on the Summer negotiations.	Ash_F	May 2016	#33
Nothing matters till the written letter was sent. n/t	pnwmom	May 2016	#36
To you maybe	Ash_F	May 2016	#38
How many do you send involving 55,000 pages of emails?	pnwmom	May 2016	#39
None, but those belonged to the government in the first place	Ash_F	May 2016	#43
Meh. n/t	pnwmom	May 2016	#44
After all, your source is Clinton's own website, and therefore completely trustworthy	Android3.14	May 2016	#35
Please prove that it isn't accurate that the first written request was sent on October 28.	pnwmom	May 2016	#37
The same information is available from the National Archives.	pnwmom	May 2016	#40
judicial watch BHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!	leftofcool	May 2016	#2
let me guess....	JonLeibowitz	May 2016	#9
And some Sanders supporters are lapping it up like water out of a dog bowl.	Chicago1980	May 2016	#19
More like dogs lapping up water out of a toilet bowl. nt	COLGATE4	May 2016	#42
where are supporters of Senator Sanders commenting at all?	OwlinAZ	May 2016	#45
No Hillary troll, truth teller.	Chicago1980	May 2016	#46
Only a fool treats these guys like fools.	Android3.14	May 2016	#47
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz	Skittles	May 2016	#3
seems like the Clinton folks are good at closing their ears, with lots of zzzzzzzzzzz's	tomm2thumbs	May 2016	#4
i believe it's been demonstrated to the satisfaction of many	mooseprime	May 2016	#8
Indeed! Who needs any legally acceptable proof of guit when certain people are perfectly happy with	beastie boy	May 2016	#12
I am so sorry you agree with judicial watch over Huma's maternity leave.	leftofcool	May 2016	#34
first sentence	tomm2thumbs	May 2016	#41
Some here laugh at FOIA and I find that curious for liberals, very curious.	haikugal	May 2016	#5
Come on - you and I both know that those people aren't liberals.	Maedhros	May 2016	#17
Yeah, but I was being kind by calling them liberals, not correct.	haikugal	May 2016	#22
I thought the date was interesting. This part of the story	Land of Enchantment	May 2016	#7
Hell I probably would take the 5th as well especially considering what they went on to nail	cstanleytech	May 2016	#10
Yeah, I think he can plead the 5th in	Land of Enchantment	May 2016	#11
Unless its a blanket immunity for both state and federal crimes	cstanleytech	May 2016	#13
remember - this is not the FBI investigation	grasswire	May 2016	#26
Locking Duplicate Thread. Continue this discussion here:	In_The_Wind	May 2016	#48

Response to Land of Enchantment (Original post)

Wed May 4, 2016, 08:48 PM

pnwmom (107,670 posts)

1. Here's her answer: no. She didn't. She knew that all her emails to and from .gov

accounts would be saved, and available there; and the rest she retained on her server -- and provided as soon as it was requested.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #1)

Wed May 4, 2016, 08:54 PM

Press Virginia (2,329 posts)

6. Explains why the government had to ask her

to return government property

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #1)

Wed May 4, 2016, 10:05 PM

NWCorona (8,541 posts)

14. The state department had to repeatedly ask for Clinton's emails

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Response to NWCorona (Reply #14)

Wed May 4, 2016, 10:10 PM

pnwmom (107,670 posts)

15. No, they asked her once. She didn't resist. But it took a month to go through 55,000 emails.

Big deal.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #15)

Wed May 4, 2016, 10:19 PM

NWCorona (8,541 posts)

16. Not true. They asked for them multiple times going back to June 2014

And the state shouldn't have even had to ask for them.

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Response to NWCorona (Reply #16)

Wed May 4, 2016, 10:35 PM

pnwmom (107,670 posts)

21. Link, please. Here's mine.

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/briefing/factsheets/2015/07/13/email-facts/

Why did the State Department ask for assistance in collecting records? Why did the State Department need assistance in further meeting its requirements under the Federal Records Act?

The State Department formally requested the assistance of the four previous former Secretaries in a letter to their representatives dated October 28, 2014, to help in further meeting the Department’s requirements under the Federal Records Act.

The letter stated that in September 2013, the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) issued new guidance clarifying records management responsibilities regarding the use of personal email accounts for government business.

While this guidance was issued after all four former Secretaries had departed office, the Department decided to ensure its records were as complete as possible and sought copies of work emails sent or received by the Secretaries on their own accounts.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #21)

Wed May 4, 2016, 10:47 PM

NWCorona (8,541 posts)

23. And here's mine.

"This article has been updated.

Throughout the controversy over her use of a private e-mail system while she was secretary of state, Hillary Rodham Clinton has described her decision last year to turn over thousands of work-related e-mails as a response to a routine-sounding records request.

“When we were asked to help the State Department make sure they had everything from other secretaries of state, not just me, I’m the one who said, ‘Okay, great, I will go through them again,’ ” Clinton said Sunday on CBS’s “Face the Nation.” “And we provided all of them.”

But State Department officials provided new information Tuesday that undercuts Clinton’s characterization. They said the request was not simply about general record-keeping but was prompted entirely by the discovery that Clinton had exclusively used a private e-mail system. They also said they first contacted her in the summer of 2014, at least three months before the agency asked Clinton and three of her predecessors to provide their e-mails"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/state-departments-account-of-e-mail-request-differs-from-clintons/2015/09/22/54cd66bc-5ed9-11e5-8e9e-dce8a2a2a679_story.html

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #15)

Wed May 4, 2016, 10:29 PM

Ash_F (5,861 posts)

18. Yes she did. She had her lawyers stiff arm the State Department

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Response to Ash_F (Reply #18)

Wed May 4, 2016, 10:35 PM

pnwmom (107,670 posts)

20. Link, please. n/t

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #20)

Wed May 4, 2016, 10:49 PM

Ash_F (5,861 posts)

24. Here

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/06/us/politics/hillary-clinton-asks-state-dept-to-review-emails-for-public-release.html?ref=politics&_r=1

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Response to Ash_F (Reply #24)

Wed May 4, 2016, 10:54 PM

pnwmom (107,670 posts)

25. . . .

The letter cited in your link below was dated October 28 and she provided the email on December 5 -- a very quick turn-around.

In October, the State Department sent a letter to Mrs. Clinton and all former secretaries of state back to Madeleine K. Albright, seeking emails and other documents in their possession that related to their government work.

Finally, in December, dozens of boxes filled with 50,000 pages of printed emails from Mrs. Clinton’s personal account were delivered to the State Department. Those documents were then examined by department lawyers, who found roughly 900 pages pertaining to the Benghazi attacks.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #25)

Wed May 4, 2016, 11:08 PM

Ash_F (5,861 posts)

27. Negotiations began in August

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Response to Ash_F (Reply #27)

Wed May 4, 2016, 11:09 PM

pnwmom (107,670 posts)

28. Whatever the heck that means. n/t

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #28)

Wed May 4, 2016, 11:10 PM

Ash_F (5,861 posts)

29. It means it did not take them "1 month"

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Response to Ash_F (Reply #29)

Wed May 4, 2016, 11:12 PM

pnwmom (107,670 posts)

30. It took them five weeks from the time the letter was sent. And there was no official

request till the letter was sent.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #30)

Wed May 4, 2016, 11:16 PM

Ash_F (5,861 posts)

31. Right just State Department officials making a request

...and then being told to meet with her lawyers.

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Response to Ash_F (Reply #31)

Wed May 4, 2016, 11:20 PM

pnwmom (107,670 posts)

32. The only thing we know for sure is that an official written request was sent on October 28.

And that's also the bottom line.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #32)

Wed May 4, 2016, 11:24 PM

Ash_F (5,861 posts)

33. I don't think the Times was the only news source that reported on the Summer negotiations.

I am pretty sure that is not made up.

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Response to Ash_F (Reply #33)

Wed May 4, 2016, 11:34 PM

pnwmom (107,670 posts)

36. Nothing matters till the written letter was sent. n/t

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #36)

Wed May 4, 2016, 11:41 PM

Ash_F (5,861 posts)

38. To you maybe

I submit a lot of FOIAs as part of my work. It is supposed to take no more than 20 days.

Now it is coming out anyway. She should have just complied instead of lawyering up.

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Response to Ash_F (Reply #38)

Wed May 4, 2016, 11:43 PM

pnwmom (107,670 posts)

39. How many do you send involving 55,000 pages of emails?

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #39)

Thu May 5, 2016, 12:39 AM

Ash_F (5,861 posts)

43. None, but those belonged to the government in the first place

They could not even begin to respond to the FOIA until they got their own stuff back. She subverted the whole process.

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Response to Ash_F (Reply #43)

Thu May 5, 2016, 12:50 AM

pnwmom (107,670 posts)

44. Meh. n/t

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #32)

Wed May 4, 2016, 11:33 PM

Android3.14 (5,402 posts)

35. After all, your source is Clinton's own website, and therefore completely trustworthy

This thing is an albatross.

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Response to Android3.14 (Reply #35)

Wed May 4, 2016, 11:35 PM

pnwmom (107,670 posts)

37. Please prove that it isn't accurate that the first written request was sent on October 28.

Because this is a letter repeating that date that was issued by the National Archives.

https://www.archives.gov/press/press-releases/2015/pdf/state-dept-response-to-wester-04-02-2015.pdf

As you know, NARA has been updating its guidance on the management of emails. In furtherance of that guidance and to ensure that our records are as complete as possible, on October 28, 2014, Under Secretary Kennedy sent a letter to the representatives of former Secretaries Clinton, Powell, Rice, and Albright to request that copies of federal records be made available to the Department (see1attachments 4-7).

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Response to Android3.14 (Reply #35)

Wed May 4, 2016, 11:45 PM

pnwmom (107,670 posts)

40. The same information is available from the National Archives.

https://www.archives.gov/press/press-releases/2015/pdf/state-dept-response-to-wester-04-02-2015.pdf

As you know, NARA has been updating its guidance on the management of emails. In furtherance of that guidance and to ensure that our records are as complete as possible, on October 28, 2014, Under Secretary Kennedy sent a letter to the representatives of former Secretaries Clinton, Powell, Rice, and Albright to request that copies of federal records be made available to the Department (see1attachments 4-7).

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Response to Land of Enchantment (Original post)

Wed May 4, 2016, 08:48 PM

leftofcool (19,460 posts)

2. judicial watch BHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

These stupid right wing pigs still want to know why Huma got maternity leave.

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Response to leftofcool (Reply #2)

Wed May 4, 2016, 09:21 PM

JonLeibowitz (6,282 posts)

9. let me guess....

....she had a child?

These Republicans sure don't know much about women, pregnancies, or families!

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Response to leftofcool (Reply #2)

Wed May 4, 2016, 10:34 PM

Chicago1980 (1,942 posts)

19. And some Sanders supporters are lapping it up like water out of a dog bowl.

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Response to Chicago1980 (Reply #19)

Thu May 5, 2016, 12:22 AM

COLGATE4 (14,732 posts)

42. More like dogs lapping up water out of a toilet bowl. nt

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Response to Chicago1980 (Reply #19)

Thu May 5, 2016, 02:02 AM

OwlinAZ (410 posts)

45. where are supporters of Senator Sanders commenting at all?

(Hillary trolls)

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Response to OwlinAZ (Reply #45)

Thu May 5, 2016, 02:27 AM

Chicago1980 (1,942 posts)

46. No Hillary troll, truth teller.

I see people continuously mentioning 'indictment' or email that have the Bernie avatar.

I've seen posts like that on DU an`d elsewhere.

Keep your eyes open and you'll see them too.

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Response to leftofcool (Reply #2)

Thu May 5, 2016, 07:48 AM

Android3.14 (5,402 posts)

47. Only a fool treats these guys like fools.

You may disagree with their choices of who to pursue, but these guys are effective and usually know they can win.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_Watch#Major_investigations_and_lawsuits

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Response to Land of Enchantment (Original post)

Wed May 4, 2016, 08:49 PM

Skittles (148,695 posts)

3. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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Response to Land of Enchantment (Original post)

Wed May 4, 2016, 08:52 PM

tomm2thumbs (13,297 posts)

4. seems like the Clinton folks are good at closing their ears, with lots of zzzzzzzzzzz's

I don't think general election voters will be so inclined

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Response to tomm2thumbs (Reply #4)

Wed May 4, 2016, 09:18 PM

mooseprime (474 posts)

8. i believe it's been demonstrated to the satisfaction of many

that laws don't apply to certain people. so bringing up that they may have broken the law is annoying and tiresome.

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Response to mooseprime (Reply #8)

Wed May 4, 2016, 09:49 PM

beastie boy (5,904 posts)

12. Indeed! Who needs any legally acceptable proof of guit when certain people are perfectly happy with

guilt by association! Screw the laws and due process!

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Response to tomm2thumbs (Reply #4)

Wed May 4, 2016, 11:25 PM

leftofcool (19,460 posts)

34. I am so sorry you agree with judicial watch over Huma's maternity leave.

That is what this is about you know?

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Response to leftofcool (Reply #34)

Wed May 4, 2016, 11:46 PM

tomm2thumbs (13,297 posts)

41. first sentence

"A federal judge on Wednesday directed State Department officials and top aides to Hillary Clinton to answer questions under oath by June 29 about whether they intentionally thwarted federal open-records laws by allowing Clinton’s use of a private email server throughout her tenure as secretary of state from 2009 to 2013."

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Response to Land of Enchantment (Original post)

Wed May 4, 2016, 08:53 PM

haikugal (6,476 posts)

5. Some here laugh at FOIA and I find that curious for liberals, very curious.

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Response to haikugal (Reply #5)

Wed May 4, 2016, 10:24 PM

Maedhros (10,007 posts)

17. Come on - you and I both know that those people aren't liberals.

Not by a long shot.

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Response to Maedhros (Reply #17)

Wed May 4, 2016, 10:37 PM

haikugal (6,476 posts)

22. Yeah, but I was being kind by calling them liberals, not correct.

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Response to Land of Enchantment (Original post)

Wed May 4, 2016, 09:02 PM

Land of Enchantment (1,217 posts)

7. I thought the date was interesting. This part of the story

is at least moving along faster than a snail's pace. I imagine Pagliano will take the 5th, as usual.

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Response to Land of Enchantment (Reply #7)

Wed May 4, 2016, 09:28 PM

cstanleytech (24,800 posts)

10. Hell I probably would take the 5th as well especially considering what they went on to nail

Bill for.

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #10)

Wed May 4, 2016, 09:47 PM

Land of Enchantment (1,217 posts)

11. Yeah, I think he can plead the 5th in

this lawsuit but got immunity from the DoJ for the FBI investigation...OH--I meant 'security review'...

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Response to Land of Enchantment (Reply #11)

Wed May 4, 2016, 10:00 PM

cstanleytech (24,800 posts)

13. Unless its a blanket immunity for both state and federal crimes

I would probably tell them to go fuck themselves especially given how the Republicans have shown how spiteful they can be to go after someone for lying about a blowjob.

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Response to Land of Enchantment (Original post)

Wed May 4, 2016, 11:04 PM

grasswire (50,130 posts)