Iranian Models Arrested For Posting Instagram Pictures Without Headscarves

[MariaThinks]

Source: Huffington Post

A top Iranian model has been charged with “promoting western promiscuity” after posting pictures of herself on Instagram without a headscarf.

Elham Arab, who achieved fame for her blonde hair and bridal shoots, appeared before a Tehran prosecutor with her platinum tresses dyed brown, wearing a black chador.

An apparently penitent Arab was shown on state television saying: “All people love beauty and fame. They would like to be seen, but it is important to know what price they will pay to be seen


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[IronLionZion]

1. Are there any human rights conditions attached to the nuclear agreement?

I feel like they can find a lot of efficiencies by firing the moral police. You know, in the spirit of less government. These damn conservatives just can't mind their own business.

[uhnope]

10. no

my understanding is that those kinds of negotiations keep to one specific subject, in order to avoid a massive horse-trading session that would end up going nowhere. That's how Obama/Kerry were successful

[MADem]

30. They just "hired" 7000 more busybodies to harass women on the street for not

wearing hijab correctly. We're back in Crackdown Mode.

[leftynyc]

2. "promoting wester promiscuity"?

For having her hair uncovered and her natural color? So when can we expect the nuke deal to pay dividends with the moderates having a stronger voice?

[iandhr]

3. As long as the ayatollahs remain it is not going to happen.

But avoiding another war in the middle east is worth it. If they live up to their end of the bargain.


It is worth noting though it is far worse for women in Saudi Arabia our "ally"

[leftynyc]

5. That's a mighty big IF

Meanwhile women still have to put up with crap like this while we wait.

[iandhr]

6. Unfortunately you are absolutely right.

[Akicita]

16. Giving Iran $150 billion to spend on spreading terror is not avoiding another war

in the middle east.

[leftynyc]

19. Far be it for me

to look as if I'm defending the mullahs in Iran (who I would spit on hourly if given the chance) but we didn't give them anything - the money was theirs and had been frozen in American banks due to the sanctions. That said, I'll never trust them. Never.

[Akicita]

47. Ok. We gave them access to $150B,,much of which will be used for terror.

[leftynyc]

48. No - the agreement

between 6 countries including the US eased the sanctions. But I agree with you and as I said before, the President is far too trusting of these mad mullahs.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

20. Don't worry

I'm sure someone will be along soon to tell us WE'RE going to have to assimilate for the best of everyone and how awesome it's gonna feel for western women to sacrifice their rights in the name of tolerance.

[leftynyc]

22. I know one poster that posted

that bullshit but was met with nothing but scorn. American women aren't going to go backwards to satisfy some asshole's version of tolerance.

[Iggo]

4. Seriously, people?

[mr_liberal]

7. Islamists. nm

[Nye Bevan]

12. Sorry but that is a most un-PC response on one of these threads.

You are supposed to say something like "I hate ALL religions!"

[name not needed]

13. That or somehow twist this to being Israel's fault.

[leftynyc]

14. Or the west

Or Christians are just as bad. People are really slacking off today.

[EdwardBernays]

8. Awful! But....

It's important to keep this all in context... What would happen to her in Saudi Arabia? Or Yemen?

And why exactly is there a hyper conservative government in charge in Iran?

In many ways the suffering of these people is the responsibility of the West. In most ways. The people themselves are modern. There's loads of women driving and in universities in Iran.

From wiki:

"As of 2006, women account for well over half of the university students in Iran[23] and 70% of Iran's science and engineering students."

In fact Iran is the home to MANY women's rights activists...

Now again, compare that to out ally Saudi Arabia. In SA women can only view a lecture by a male teacher over a TV monitor and can only ask questions via a telephone. And they can't drive. And they are seen as an inferior species to men.

And yet... Americans do little more than moan about billions in weapons or oil revenue given to the Saudi dictators. The more liberal and modern and frankly less dangerous and awful Iran though... Better bomb them if they don't obey us. Bleugh.

[MariaThinks]

11. how is this the fault of the west?

[EdwardBernays]

25. Not something something something

and it's arrogant and/or ignorant to pretend that's the case.

[MariaThinks]

45. it's getting old blaming the west for the arab world's problems. It's time to look at true facts

and take accountability for a bloody history

[EdwardBernays]

46. sorry no

the West has never even vaguely paid for the thousands its helped kill and torture in Iran... it hasn't paid for the coup for oil, or the Iran /Iraq war, or setting up the Iranian secret police force and training them - and leading them - as they tortured and killed thousands of civilians... it hasn't paid for giving Saddam WMDs and helped him point it at Iranians... it hasn't even apologised for shooting down a passenger plane full of women and children.

If ANY country did all that to America and the worst America did as a result was oppress women I'm be amazed... terrorists killed 3000 on 9/11 and we invaded two countries, which has led to endless death and ongoing mayhem... all over 3000 dead Americans. Imagine going up to 9/11 survivor and telling them to get over it... or the family of someone killed on 9/11.

Now multiply that by decades of murder and a dictator and a war... and endless sanctions.. and an attempted second coup... and more threats of war...

You obviously have little idea what the true facts are.

[MariaThinks]

32. nevermind that the muslim hordes conquered and slaughtered villages that wouldn't

convert to islam in the 5th century.

[EdwardBernays]

23. Do you

know why Iran is run by religious extremists?

[MariaThinks]

33. islam teaches

among other things

1. only islam is the true religion
2. nonmuslims are not equal to muslims and should be killed
3. anyone who leaves islam should be killed
4. it is not permissible to question anything in islam

[EdwardBernays]

43. so you don't then

I see

[leftynyc]

17. And I was afraid you would

let me down and would pass up the opportunity to blame this misogynistic crap on the West. I don't see anyone here supporting Saudi Arabia so that strawman is complete bullshit.

[MariaThinks]

34. it offers wonderful support for the islamic terrorists.

did you know that 1000 years ago a Christian killed a muslim and that's what makes the west responsible for the muslim rulers in iran insisting that every women should have no rights.

[leftynyc]

36. Nauseating that we can

expect these ridiculous posts on every single story like this one.

[MariaThinks]

37. but the same terrorist supporters have no outrage for the victims of the terrorists

only the token - 'yeah that's too bad' followed by paragraphs complaining that someone is posting articles of Islamic terrorist attacks everyday. Because there ARE Islamic terrorist attacks so frequently.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

21. Strawman

Go ask your buddies who randomly post threads about beautiful burkas. Many of us have had enough of all theocracy stinking up diplomacy.

[EdwardBernays]

24. It's not a strawman

it's not even close...

Things are relatively good and relatively bad... you'd MUCH rather be a woman in Iran than Saudi Arabia... and much rather be a woman in Scandinavia than the US in many respects.

I am NOT A fan of theocracy in the LEAST, but I'm also not hypocritical enough to think supporting a country like Saudi Arabia is ok while at the same time condemning Iran for treating women BETTER than Saudi Arabia.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

26. Do you really believe that anyone condemning Iran in this thread thinks the Saudis are better?

We can all walk, chew gum, and criticize multiple Middle Eastern countries at the same time. The focus of this thread just happens to be a story on Iran. I'm sure some other ME country will do something to subjugate someone later in the day for us to point out.

[EdwardBernays]

29. put it like this

a simple site search shows that there's been 3x as many threads about Iran as Saudi Arabia, most of those have comments full of ignorant anti-Iran blather, including people comparing them to flipping Hitler...

On the other hand, there is a VERY LOUD contingent of people that DEFEND Saudi Arabia any time they are mentioned... and make excuses for their behavior. In fact I had a bit of a row on here the other day with someone that basically forgave Saudi Arabia (and the US) for starving millions of women and children in Yemen... in fact most threads about Yemen sink like a stone...

But post a thread about Iran and condemnation rains down...

So no, I don't think DU treats all ME countries the same... it behaves like history books don't exist and the US has zero culpability for the thousands of people it's killed or helped kill there, and like it didn't forever screw up the country with it's coup and subsequent dictator (and US created and run secret police)...while at the same time ignoring - basically Saudi Arabia... aside from some grumbling...

Put it yet another way, Hillary Clinton - the presumptive Democratic Party nominee - signed off on billions in weapons to SA and called doing that a "top priority" - this for a country where women can't drive - accepted at least 10m in donations from Saudi Arabia - a country that beheads girls for witchcraft - and hired the owner of Saudi's largest PR/Lobbying firm as her campaign chairman and public mouthpiece - that is he makes money off of helping Saudi try and stop Americans from learning about the Saudi roll in 9/11.

And her supporters ignore this and forgive this and excuse this on a daily basis...

But a thread about Iran - a country fighting al Qaeda btw - a country that has done a LOT for women in the ME even if they're stone aged compared to the West - a thread about them and the righteous criticism rains down... EVEN THOUGH by propping up Saudi Arabia and selling them banned weapons and helping them avoid UN resolutions we're doing much worse to ME women than Iran.

Ask Yemeni women being starved by the US and Saudi Arabia what they think... ask Yemeni women being killed by US cluster bombs if they'd rather live in Iran...

Grumph.

[leftynyc]

38. Really?

Could you link me to one of these stories that show a VERY LOUD contingent of DUers defending Saudi Arabia. I've never seen it. Thanks.

BTW - am I supposed to be impressed that iran is fighting al queda? When they've been financing hezbollah, islamic jihad and other terrorist organizations FOR DECADES? Frankly, iran and saudi arabia can go fuck themselves. Sideways.

[Coventina]

44. Add me to the list of DUers anxiously awaiting links to threads praising KSA!

I admit that I miss a lot that goes on here, but that would be a pretty big deal!!

Waiting........



on edit: typo

[MariaThinks]

35. there is nothing beautiful about a burka. Why don't men wear them if they are so empowering?

It is intended to hide women so that they don't exist. It is not respect for them, but servitude.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

39. You need to get a sarcasm detector n/m

[MariaThinks]

41. i thought i was agreeing with you

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

42. You were. You still need to detect sarcasm better.

"Beautiful Burkas" was rhetorical humor.

[pampango]

9. Kim Kardashian is a secret agent for Instagram, says Iranian moral policing group

Concerned about Kim Kardashian’s popularity on image-sharing app Instagram, an Iranian agency has claimed that the reality television star is a secret agent. The Organized Cyberspace Crimes Unit of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corp accused Kardashian of working for Instagram as part of an agenda to “target young people and women” with her photographs depicting a lifestyle that goes against Islam, Vanity Fair reported.

“Ms. Kim Kardashian is a popular fashion model so Instagram’s CEO tells her, ‘Make this native,’” spokesperson Mostafa Alizadeh said on an Iranian news program. He added that there were confident that financial support was involved, and they “are taking this very seriously”, according to a new report from Iranwire.

http://scroll.in/latest/808283/kim-kardashian-is-a-secret-agent-for-instagram-says-iranian-moral-policing-group

When you think Kim Kardashian is James Bond, your religious police are looking a little too hard for enemies to blame.

[elljay]

28. Pretty funny.

I'm not sure Kim Kardashian can even spell "secret agent"

[SunSeeker]

18. K & R for exposure. nt

[FLPanhandle]

27. According to some here, all the women wear the scarfs "voluntarily"

The apologists for misogamy claim that anyway.

[MariaThinks]

31. many muslin women in north america are killed by their families

when they don't want to wear the hijabs.

muslim women are not supporting other muslim women in muslim dominated countries that don't have the freedom to choose.

[moondust]

40. Hardliner backlash?

Moderates in Iran have been making gains recently.

Iran elections: Hardliners lose parliament to Rouhani allies

Perhaps the hardliners want to remind everyone that Allah is still the boss.