This message was self-deleted by its author

[Omaha Steve]

This message was self-deleted by its author (Omaha Steve) on Sun May 22, 2016, 12:11 PM. When the original post in a discussion thread is self-deleted, the entire discussion thread is automatically locked so new replies cannot be posted.

[phazed0]

1. Totally corrupt.. the DNC has fully pushed me away. This is a Democracy damnit! nt

[FlatBaroque]

9. Party has been fully infiltrated and taken over by traitors.

[Helen Borg]

38. treason!

[phazed0]

40. Treason!

[yuiyoshida]

36. wait till they call us

sore losers. Remember the Bush supporters? Sore loserman!!

[silvershadow]

50. Dammit man! You've been here since at least March!

[ozone_man]

86. It's getting harder and harder to stay a Democrat.

DWS makes it unbearable. The Democrats are as corrupt as the Republicans, there is hardly any difference in my view. Let's restore the Party to its FDR ideals. Clintons are not in that direction, to the right of Trump in most ways that affect the 99%.

[Dont call me Shirley]

2. DWS committed a bag-job.

[scscholar]

3. What else do you expect her to do?

Support a long-term party member or an outsider? She's doing her job.

[jalan48]

6. She better hope those "Outsider Democrats" vote for Hillary if she gets the nomination.

[mindwalker_i]

7. So the DNC is there to support the person who's turn it is?

Yeah, screw this democracy thing where people get in the way of them deciding stuff.

You are the problem

[Zorro]

83. The majority of Democratic primary voters made their decision. And it ain't for your candidate.

That's what "this democracy thing" is all about.

Get over it.

[mindwalker_i]

84. The DNC had not only their thumb on the scale

... but their collective fat ass. My point remains: the DNC is there to give it to the person who's turn it is? That is what the parent post implied.

[Zorro]

85. Clinton has worked and organized hard for the nomination

She's earned her delegate lead.

[mindwalker_i]

87. The job of the DNC is not to push one candidate over the other

You can berate me about it all you want but a lot of people will see this is cronyism which will hurt Hillary in the GE and the democratic party long term. Unfortunately, all that stuff we complained about for the republican party is now true for this one.

[zalinda]

100. Yeah, they've been bought and paid for. eom

[Katashi_itto]

109. Agree, they paid good money for this election.

[Akicita]

13. Her job is to remain neutral, not favor one Democrat over another.

[silvershadow]

52. ^This. nt

[Ferd Berfel]

57. Bernie is not an outsider

he's caucused with the Dems his entire time in House and Senate and he's been on, or chaired committees for the Dems.

[hopemountain]

103. her focus is to stop the grassroots vote. period.

she has clearly stated this and used the term "stop the grassroots" when explaining the purpose of the superdelegates.

dws is not a democrat. i don't know what she is other than mean, spiteful, authoritarian, manipulative, and a snotty elite.

she is pissed she may loose her senate seat, her job with the dnc, and the election for hillary. she feels threatened and for whatever it takes she must win all.

poor, poor debbie....this may be the end of her career.

[ananda]

34. No, she's carrying water for Clinton and the corporations and the very wealthy!

!!!

[FighttheFuture]

74. I expect her to run a Primary and a Party to allow its voters to decide. Bernie an "outsider"??!!

Ridiculous!!!

He's is more of a Democrat than most of them in office today! People see that and they know it. It's the Corporate leaning Democratic leadership that cannot understand that because they forgot what this Party's roots!

DWS appears to be too much of a tone-deaf DLC toady to understand that. She is too busy courting payday lenders, and minimizing the debates, stymieing Bernie, ignoring all the voting issues injected by the R's over the years, to understand anything else.

[Raster]

106. oh puleeeze, even a long-term party member that passed the purity tests...

...that challenged the Ne-Empress, would have been completely left out in the cold by DWS and the DNC.

Wasserman-Shitz is PWNED by the Clinton machine. She exists to serve She Who Must Be Obeyed, plain and simple.

[tomm2thumbs]

4. No one on the planet (if they were being honest) thinks DWS isn't slanting favor towards HRC

it goes against any logic, and we see examples of it, from debates to dismissing talk about Bernie early on in the race, even in regards to speaking at the Convention

[livetohike]

5. Whine, whine, complain, complain. Not fair!!

Oligarchy! Establishment! Corporatists!

[still_one]

8. and then they wonder why 87% of self-identified Democrats support Hillary over Sanders

[phazed0]

10. Funny, havn't seen any primaries winning by anywhere near that much..

..and according to Hillary supporters, polls don't matter.

But since still_one says it, it must be true!

[still_one]

17. That is because a fair number of Sanders supporters only registered as Democrats to vote in the

primaries for Sanders, not because they identify as Democrats

[beardown]

43. So getting people to register into the Democractic party is a bad thing now?

Good to know you side with the rabid repubs who have the same beliefs about Acorn and other organizations who try to increase Democratic party membership.

It's getting so you can't read more than a couple of responses to any of these threads without running into posts like this that show just how horribly wrong the Democratic party has strayed from it's FDR and Kennedy days into the Clinton NAFTA, welfare reform, TPP, Iraqmire days.

[ReRe]

81. I'm a long-time Dem...

... and voted for Bernie in the Primary.

[livetohike]

11. Everyone of my friends are sick of him. Even the ones who were strong supporters at first.

I notice a change on my FB feed too. No more barrage of donate to Bernie, feel the Bern cheerleading. It's over.

[LS_Editor]

15. You must have a lot of friends to decide it is over.

Last edited Thu May 19, 2016, 10:43 PM - Edit history (1)

You must have more friends than anyone in the world, or it's all anecdotal bullshit.

[livetohike]

21. Just my personal experience. I'm sure I'm not alone. n/t

[Bodych]

23. Anecdotal bullshit...

...gotta love that expression.

And I do.

[Yallow]

16. Are Your Friends Banksters?

[livetohike]

24. LOl. Far from it. Retirees for the most part. Those still working range from teachers, nurses,

engineers, artists, musicians, accountants for non-profits, doctors, pharmacists, not one banker. Thanks for asking .

[still_one]

22. This was based on Nate Silvers analysis that a good number of Sanders supporters who voted do not

consider themselves Democrats

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-hidden-importance-of-the-bernie-sanders-voter/

[Lean]

29. Every One Of My Friends...

Are sick and tired of the Clinton's. Even the one's who were strong supporters at first. And it appears that Trump has closed the gap. The DNC establishment chose to back the wrong candidate. Hillary is going to lose. Again. Sham on you DNC. Shame on you DWS!

[Optimism]

115. Nothing cool about it.

A President Trump because the Superdelegates refuse to put up the best, most electable candidate is not cool. It's tragic ... for this country and the world.

[frylock]

111. Cool story.

[LS_Editor]

12. Why is your arrow pointing to the right?

That's not a good sign.

[Fla Dem]

48. Actually it's pointing forward, not backward like the Bernie B. nt

[Ed Suspicious]

78. Republican red and moving rightward.

[arikara]

95. I know, right?

Red and rightward. The most blatantly honest logo I have ever seen.

[Yallow]

14. 87% Really

In Seattle it is exactly the opposite.

BTW, where did you pull that number? It doesn't smell right.....

[still_one]

20. Many of those Sanders supporters who registered as Democrats, do not identify themselves as

Democrats, and there are enough posts here which confirm that

"That’s because a lot of Sanders voters don’t identify as Democrats. Exit polls have been conducted in 27 primary and caucus states so far, and Clinton has won among voters who identify as Democrats in all but Vermont, New Hampshire and Wisconsin (where she tied Sanders). But she’s won self-identified independents only in Alabama, Georgia and Mississippi. (I keep using that term “self-identified” because the exit poll asks voters how they “usually think of” themselves — Democrat, Republican or independent. A voter’s self-identification may differ from her party registration, and some states do not have party registration at all.)"

.....

Clinton’s reasonably strong general election numbers among self-identified Democrats — she had the support of 87 percent of Democrats in a recent NBC News/SurveyMonkey poll in her matchup against Trump,


http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-hidden-importance-of-the-bernie-sanders-voter/

[trudyco]

27. I don't know where 87% came from

but that self identified Democrats number... keeps going down.
And that Independent number... keeps going up.

DWS/DLC has pushed people out of the party, especially progressives.
down,down,down... fewer and fewer..shrinking percentage of the population... less effective... less important

Great job, Democrats! Great job Debbie! Go Hillary! you guys really know how to manage a big tent. Not.

[still_one]

31. Nate Silver

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-hidden-importance-of-the-bernie-sanders-voter/

[frylock]

112. Nate "92% chance of victory" Silver?

[Duval]

39. Where did you get 87% from? nt

[padfun]

110. Proof that 85% of statistics are made up on the spot

Your number is so obviously inflated that it borders on a Trumpism.

[mainer]

121. I've been a Dem since Carter. I support Sanders.

Don't you dare say all Sanders supporters are Johnny come latelys. There are many, many of us who have given tens of thousands of dollars to the DNC over the years, who are now fed up with what the Democratic party has become.

I can't even stand to look at DWS's face. And I'm quickly getting to that point with Hillary.

[Ned_Devine]

54. Whew! For a second there I thought you were going to say something nasty

Instead it was just thoughtless and childish. Nice work!

[TwilightZone]

18. Ben Norton?

lol, no.

[Scientific]

19. DWS is a pox upon the party

Her track record - not just in overt support of Hilary - but in general organization and strategy, sucks. She is the wrong person for the job.

[still_one]

25. Clinton is going to be the nominee. If you don't want to vote for her don't, but these posts,

which mostly occur from Sanders supporters, with OPs labelled as LBN, when instead they belong in General Discussion : Primaries makes DU a joke

[The_Casual_Observer]

26. Is this part of the constructive "progressive" Bernie "Message" that he plans to take to the

convention? He has gone off the deep end.

[riversedge]

28. Again?? Sanders has a reputation for Whining and sueing.

[Lean]

32. Clinton...

Has a reputation for cheating, and stretching the truth.

[frylock]

113. And being indicted.

[riversedge]

30. Not LBN.

[red dog 1]

33. K&R...Thanks for posting, Omaha Steve

Too bad Obama lacks the courage or the will to fire DWS!

She's just too damn divisive, IMO.

A divided Democratic Party will not do well come November, regardless of who the nominee is.

[pmorlan1]

35. Terrible Chairperson

Wasserman Schultz was handpicked by Obama to lead the party in 2011, but soon fell out of favor. “When she sensed Obama was considering replacing her as chair in 2013,” Politico noted, “she began to line up supporters to suggest the move was both anti-woman and anti-Semitic.”

She needs to go.

[jwirr]

44. Hand picked or part of some deal he made with Hillary like

the SOS job?

[pmorlan1]

46. Could Be?

whoever picked her she needs to go.

[jwirr]

49. It goes in with the "my turn" idea.

[creeksneakers2]

37. From Josh Marshall

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/sanders-camp-flirts-with-going-full-burn-it-down

"From what I can tell, the current Sanders campaign is riven between people who are increasingly upset or bewildered by what we might call the resurgent "burn it down" turn of Sanders outlook and others who are fully immersed in the feedback loop of grievance and paranoia that sees all the political events of the last year as a series of large and small scale conspiracies to deny the rectitude and destiny of Bernie Sanders. I've seen many, many campaigns. People put everything into it and losing is brutal and punishing. Folks on the losing side frequently go a little nuts, sometimes a lot nuts. The 2008 denouement really was pretty crazy. But it's not clear that this time we have any countervailing force - adulthood, institutional buy-in, future careers, over-riding pragmatism to rein things in."

Other than a debate advantage to Hillary at the beginning, The DNC hasn't done much to affect the outcome of the race. They've had fundraising with Hillary but Bernie could have had that too if he chose it. Now that the Sanders side is devoted to nothing more than damaging the nominee its time for DWS to speak up.

Bernies supporters are obsessed with bizarre conspiracy theories. Now that they are losing they've gotten much worse. The election wasn't rigged. Bernie lost.

[Duval]

41. Don't know what has happened to Josh Marshall.

But, there's another website I won't either donate to or frequent. Too bad.

[creeksneakers2]

45. I frequent places that don't just confirm what I already believe

I learn that way.

[jwirr]

51. Don't forget the 32 state Democratic Party deals with Hillary's

Victory Fund, the DNC and the state parties. Included in these deals were the Super-Delegates.

[creeksneakers2]

55. Bernie could have made the same deal

He chose not to.

[jwirr]

60. YES, because it was a deal to launder BIG MONEY. Good for

Bernie.

[creeksneakers2]

67. You can call it that

But you can't say the process was fixed because only Hillary got the deal.

[jwirr]

71. That is not my words - that is what the articles about it called

it.

You have a strange idea of fairness - because someone refused to take part in a dirty deal they are to blame? Funny.

[creeksneakers2]

77. I don't blame Bernie for not taking the deal

He got more money from his supporters by turning down big donations and made out better in the long run.

I'm just saying you can't claim the DNC played favorites where they didn't.

[FlatBaroque]

53. ANYONE who unequivocally claims to know that the primary was not rigged

is FULL OF SHIT. And Josh Marshall is a very much full of shit.

[creeksneakers2]

56. I don't believe in wild conspiracy theories

unless they have evidence.

[Ed Suspicious]

79. I don't believe in head in the sand coincidence theories when they don't pass the smell test.

[creeksneakers2]

82. A smell test

is a name for just going by preconceived notions. Given that you call yourself Suspicious, its not hard to guess what you'd think you were smelling. Judging based on evidence is not the same as a head in the sand.

[Beowulf]

89. OK

The exit polls in so many Democratic primaries were off significantly and always in favor of Hillary. Strangely, every exit poll on the GOP side was spot on. If this had happened in an African or Latin American country the world would be screaming election fraud.

[creeksneakers2]

90. Contrary to popular opinion

Exit polls aren't all that accurate. Its very difficult to get a random sample.

Bernie outperformed many polls. If anything, polls would make it look like it was Bernie's side that was cheating.

[Ed Suspicious]

92. Bernie has been outperforming exit polls? You'll have to show me.

[creeksneakers2]

93. I'm talking about the regular polls

taken before the elections.

[Ed Suspicious]

94. Well that's not what they use to evaluate the legitimacy of elections.

Apples and oranges.

[Beowulf]

97. For decades networks and other media outlets

used them to project winners in US elections. They got so good at it, they could project winners before the polls even closed. The UN and other agencies that monitored elections used them to tell if election fraud was occurring. Then suddenly in 2000 and in 2004 we were told exit polls no longer could be trusted. Yeah, right! Peeing on my leg and telling me it's raining ain't going to work.

Also, nice job conflating two different kinds of polls. Exit polls sample actual voters. The kind Bernie outperformed sampled likely voters.

Karl Rove couldn't have done you better.

[creeksneakers2]

99. Why not look at both types?

http://www.vox.com/2014/11/4/7150019/exit-polls-2014-midterm-election-results-biased

Are exit polls always right?

No. In fact, there are some particular challenges that exit polls have faced for the last several elections, that they still haven't found a way to work out:

Early voters. The phone poll for early voters is a new addition to the exit poll, and it's not clear that the kinks have been worked out yet. It runs into the problems any phone poll has — namely, that it's difficult to poll people who only have mobile phones. Furthermore, the exit pollsters don't typically do early-vote polling in every state; in 2012, only 15 states got early-vote polling.


No exit poll interviewer here. (Justin Sullivan/Getty)

Small groups. Like any poll, the smaller a sample size is, the less likely it is to be representative. So the exit poll is pretty reliable when it comes to large demographics (men, women, Democrats, Republicans) but gets less reliable when it gets to small demographics (young voters, Jewish voters).

Voters of color. In addition to the general problems with smaller voting demographics, analysts believe that the exit poll has a tendency to oversample a particular kind of voter of color — the kind who lives in majority-white areas.

Here's the logic. Even though the public doesn't know exactly how the exit poll chooses where to go, it's possible to make some educated guesses. The exit poll is trying to predict the margin of victory for one candidate over another across the state. So when it decides which polling places to put interviewers outside of, it's reasonable to assume that it's choosing lots of swing precincts — precincts that are harder to predict and likely to affect the outcome. Those are going to be largely white precincts.

Alternatively, says Matt Barreto of Latino Decisions, exit pollsters might choose a precinct as a benchmark based on the last cycle. For example, if a precinct voted for the Democratic Senator 70 percent to 30 percent in 2008, the pollster might choose to put an exit-poll interviewer at that precinct to see if the Democrat's getting less than 70 percent of the vote this time around. But they're not necessarily paying attention to the racial makeup of those precincts.

Here's why this is a problem: the voters of color pollsters run into in majority-white precincts might not be representative of the voters of color across the state. In particular, according to Latino Decisions, voters of color living among whites are "more assimilated, better educated, higher income, and more conservative than other minority voters."

Check out the difference between the percent of nonwhite voters who had a college degree in 2010, according to the US Census vs. the exit poll:

Education level nonwhite voters exit polls
And the problem's even worse for Latino voters, because exit polls are almost never offered in Spanish — even though over a quarter of Latino voters prefer Spanish to English. So the exit polls oversample English-speaking Latinos.

All of these issues together mean that the exit polls sometimes think that Latino voters are much more favorable to Republicans than they actually are. In 2010, for example, Harry Reid won reelection to the Senate by turning out Latinos to vote against his Republican challenger, Sharron Angle, who was running as a hardcore immigration hawk. But according to the exit polls, 30 percent of Nevada Latinos voted for Angle — many more than voted for John McCain for president in 2008. (When the official vote tallies came out, it became clear that over 90 percent of Latinos had voted for Reid.)

[Nihil]

108. One big difference between the USA and African or Latin American countries ...

... is that independent electoral monitors are not allowed in the USA ...

If they were, several elections since 2000 would have been invalidated.

[Laser102]

62. Saw that. Josh has always been a good read.

[Surya Gayatri]

42. This sort of abuse of the DU rules is below you, Steve.

As a former host of LBN, would you have allowed this primary-oriented OP, if it involved a "blast" from Clinton directed at Sanders instead? I think not.

You, who supposedly value DU so much, should NOT flout the spirit of its rules in such a base way.

You should self-delete and re-post to GD-P, if you have any integrity left.

Please see this post as well:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141457035#post25

[Omaha Steve]

47. Your going to complain about this primary-oriented LBN post too then?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1456575

[Surya Gayatri]

58. So, now you want to play "if I am, then, what are you"?

Like I said, as one of the "pillars" of DU, we might have expected better than this from you. Very disappointing and revealing.

Hope it's worth throwing over your integrity for an ephemeral spot on the homepage "trending list".

[Omaha Steve]

66. No I'm asking if the other post is LBN worthy?

Or this about 1 delegate with 2 duplicates in LBN: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141453770

Or this: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141453570

Locked: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1453436

Locked: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1453430

Or: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141452841

Locked: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141452686

Locked: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141452931

Locked: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1451358

Locked: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141451295

Locked: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141451273

Locked: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141450614

I think you get the idea. It seems Nevada was news worthy to Clinton supporters. This is about Nevada too.

[Surya Gayatri]

70. If the rule is that primary-related news must be posted in GD-P, then

the rule should apply to all sides, no matter who's doing the posting.

As for that pile of links you threw at me, whether those OPs are or are not locked is NOT my call.

I AM NOT A HOST AND I HAVE NO SAY.

YOU ARE (or have been) A HOST, and should therefore set the example for best practice.

Or, at the very least, you should obey the standing rules in order to attempt (against increasing odds) to maintain the integrity and perennity of DU.

[riversedge]

59. I post primary related material about Hillary and you lock them.

[Surya Gayatri]

64. I don't even bother posting anything in LBN that mentions HRC.

Omaha Steve must have locked half a dozen of my OPs for being "off-topic". Guess it depends on who's talking.

[riversedge]

116. Yes, same here--as you know

[Omaha Steve]

69. These 2 from today aren't locked

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141456575


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141456575

[Babel_17]

65. "Sanders campaign blasts DNC chair ..." sounds like news to me

Thanks for posting it, please leave it. This is an important development to the escalation of the already simmering hostilities between DNC head Shultz and the Sanders campaign. Not to mention her disdain for some popular policies held by Democrats of all stripes.

[Babel_17]

61. Bad tactical move by DWS, interjecting herself so prominently, and obviously

She is not a good poster person for a successful Democratic party. Now she's making it about her and Secretary Clinton vs. the Sanders campaign. The Clinton campaign isn't helped by the association, not at this moment in time.

By all means continue, Representative Shultz; upcoming states in the primaries will no doubt be moved by your disdain for the Sanders campaign, and those voters supporting it.

[zentrum]

63. Van Jones Speaks for me. nt

[BunkieBandit]

68. I am ashamed.

I feel dirty and feel like something of mine has been violated. I dunno. Is this the new norm to be expected every election cycle?

[billhicks76]

72. Trump Claimed Clintonites Violent In Chicago

I guess DWS, Boxer and Hillary want to emulate that strategy. It's pathetic and at this point Hillary has totally lost the under 30 vote. It doesnt matter whether we agree or not or what we here do or dont support...what matters is how the GENERAL ELECTORATE will vote and Hillary has already botched it. Sanders has a MUCH BETTER chance of winning. ALL POLLS VERIFY THIS FACT. Please persuade me polls dont matter after telling me for 2 years they are all that matter. Hillary's negatives are IMMOVABLE. I will blame her for a Trump victory you better believe it.

[chknltl]

73. DNC and BFEE i trust 'em equally. nt

[Gregorian]

75. Just the kind of leader I want in the White House. You could do no better.

It makes me proud to be a Democrat when I see such behavior.

Thank you for standing up to the bullies, and cheaters I might add.

[stupidicus]

76. good for him

HC came, she saw, and Bernie is still breathing

I guess she can't celebrate any violence in this case

[wisteria]

80. It is time to Let go.

It has been hard fought, but he can't make up the differences. He has given it his all, and he will change the discussion and path of our party for a long time. He should be proud. No one has cheated, rules are rules. Hillary lost in 2008 playing by these same rules. Continuing the blame game will not get anyone anywhere.

[Ed Suspicious]

91. He'll be out when he's out. As of now he is not eliminated. Neither

Will have the delegates. Then it's time to make their pitch to the super delegates. Why is this so dang hard to understand?

[Zorro]

88. I wish Sanders would remember who the real enemy is and get back to the issues

[zalinda]

102. As soon as Hillary and her supporters stop attacking him.

Hillary hasn't talked about the issues, like never. She says something and then changes her mind. Oh, wait did she say anything? I can't tell, she speaks around a subject like she has something to hide.

Z

[MisterP]

96. 11 Governors, 13 Senators, 69 Reps, 913 state seats, and a partridge in a pear tree

Last edited Fri May 20, 2016, 03:02 PM - Edit history (2)

and also an Oval Office, now

[libodem]

98. It's Her Turn!

A Coronation was in order. There is no competition in democracy. The people have nothing to do with it. What do you think this is? Some kinda one party Communist one party system?

[EndElectoral]

101. Thank you Van Jones for the comment.

[Enthusiast]

104. Kicked and recommended! nt

[billhicks76]

105. Omg...Hillary Is So Fake And Disengenuous

She can't even hide it. Too many people hate her. What a candidate lol. Most liberals can't stand her. Great solution to winning. The leadership is so stupid. Ego over reality.

[billhicks76]

107. Hillary Not Allowed To Have Sanders VP

When Cuomo on CNN asked she knew the answer. Her overlords on Wall St and the National Security Establishment would never allow it. Hillary has to maintain wars at home against average Americans with the Drug War and in the Middle East enriching weapons manufacturers. What a joke she is against guns. My mind is blown that people who support her don't see the shame in it. Fine. Let's hold them responsible later.

[JCMach1]

114. Seriously, how hard IS IT to get rid of DWS who has been the most complete failure that we have had

as a Chair in recent memory?

[Wednesdays]

117. Kinda OT, but what's that on DWS's chin?

There's either a flaw in the photo, or she forgot to wipe off some toothpaste.

[SidDithers]

118. Kick for Primary news in LBN...nt

Sid

[MADem]

119. Hmmm--is this even news? Looks more like "opinion" to me! nt

[SidDithers]

120. Maybe "analysis"...

Guess it matters who you are, as much as what you post.

Sid

[wildeyed]

122. Salon is not news.

Salon is so stupid, I unfollowed it on freakin' Facebook because cat videos were more enlightening than some of the crap they post.