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kpete

(71,981 posts)
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 01:18 PM Jun 2012

GOP strategist (Ed Rollins): Republicans were `caught with their pants down’ on immigration

Source: Washington Post

GOP strategist: Republicans were `caught with their pants down’ on immigration
By Greg Sargent

Republicans need to be very careful about how they respond to Obama’s new immigration announcement, because Americans view the issue as one about fundamental fairness. If the GOP loses the Latino vote in the same way it has lost blacks, it won’t be able to win future presidential elections.

So claims GOP strategist Ed Rollins in an interview with me about Obama’s new policy blocking deportations of DREAM-eligible youth.

“They should not have been caught with their pants down,” Rollins said of Republicans, adding that they were caught “flat-footed” by the announcement. “They needed to be better prepared.”

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“If we ever lose the Hispanic vote the way we’ve lost the African American vote, there’s no way we’ll win in presidential politics,” Rollins concluded.



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GOP strategist (Ed Rollins): Republicans were `caught with their pants down’ on immigration (Original Post) kpete Jun 2012 OP
Well duh, Mr. Rollins. MinneapolisMatt Jun 2012 #1
That is what my gop friends said to me. hrmjustin Jun 2012 #2
Rubio has a birther problem, that won't go away...thanks to guys like Trump Historic NY Jun 2012 #12
That would be great if the birther thing would backfire on them at... hrmjustin Jun 2012 #15
Always a hideous sight when the GOP exposes itself Blue Owl Jun 2012 #3
Were they in a men's room stall at the airport? rfranklin Jun 2012 #20
Bad visual, a bunch of old, white men in suits louis-t Jun 2012 #4
I wonder if they will ever figure out... DemzRock Jun 2012 #5
Inevitable that such selfish creeps fail again. Democrats_win Jun 2012 #6
"stereotyping the party as intolerant"? bluedigger Jun 2012 #7
Here is the root of the problem. RDANGELO Jun 2012 #8
Progressive strategist (KamaAina): "Republicans are 'caught with their pants on fire' on everything" KamaAina Jun 2012 #9
Let me get this straight. Baitball Blogger Jun 2012 #10
I have an Hispanic neighbor next door who listens to Limbaugh Voice for Peace Jun 2012 #11
So does anyone know what Limbaugh's spin Esse Quam Videri Jun 2012 #26
Is he/she Cuban? leftynyc Jun 2012 #28
I'm not sure, I don't know him well but am curious. Voice for Peace Jun 2012 #29
no problem...repugs will just run as Dems. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2012 #13
The electorate repukes appeal to cosmicone Jun 2012 #14
Oops, will Romney's magic underwear be on display? yellowcanine Jun 2012 #16
Where is the like button? L. Coyote Jun 2012 #22
I'd bet they were tap-dancing in the stalls xfundy Jun 2012 #17
That image...a Republican with their pants down....is enough to make me sick...... Swede Atlanta Jun 2012 #18
The WaPo has gotten really good about posting dispatches from coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #19
We don't need any more GOP presidential wins Mr. Rollins madokie Jun 2012 #21
Republicans don't have to worry about being careful. They fuck up constantly and are doing fine. bloomington-lib Jun 2012 #23
Republicans must give up on the latino egbertowillies Jun 2012 #24
"Republicans need to be very careful AsahinaKimi Jun 2012 #25
I only hope that magical thyme Jun 2012 #27
 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
2. That is what my gop friends said to me.
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 01:23 PM
Jun 2012

They know it will hurt the gop and help Obama. And they are pissed they did not think of it first. They might be forsed to pick rubio and I am not sure that is a good idea.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
12. Rubio has a birther problem, that won't go away...thanks to guys like Trump
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 02:00 PM
Jun 2012
http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/06/move_over_obama_jindal_and_rub.html

But, as Romney may learn as he winnows the field of candidates to serve as his running-mate, two of the individuals most often named as being under consideration -- Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal and Florida Sen. Marco Rubio -- have been targeted by a certain strain of birthers who contend that neither man is constitutionally eligible to serve as president or vice president because, while they were both born in the United States, their parents were not U.S. citizens at the time their sons were born.


The claim is based on a tendentious and distinctly minority interpretation of what the Founding Fathers meant by "natural born," when they wrote, in Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution, "No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President ..."

Among the most prominent of these is Joseph Farah, editor and CEO of the website, WolrdNetDaily, who wrote last August, "Two candidates for the job (vice president) are mentioned over and over again -- two wonderful, charismatic public servants whose only problem is they are not constitutionally eligible to be president.



 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
15. That would be great if the birther thing would backfire on them at...
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 02:12 PM
Jun 2012

...the hands of themselves.

 

rfranklin

(13,200 posts)
20. Were they in a men's room stall at the airport?
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 08:38 PM
Jun 2012

Or wearing diapers while being whipped by a prostitute?

louis-t

(23,288 posts)
4. Bad visual, a bunch of old, white men in suits
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 01:26 PM
Jun 2012

with their pants around their ankles falling forward..........

DemzRock

(1,016 posts)
5. I wonder if they will ever figure out...
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 01:30 PM
Jun 2012

That they could actually win elections being more moderate instead of extreme? Sheesh!

Democrats_win

(6,539 posts)
6. Inevitable that such selfish creeps fail again.
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 01:30 PM
Jun 2012

Americans look at this and say, "finally, fairness." Or, "Good that the children won't be looking over their shoulders anymore." The GOP looks at it and can only see how it affects themselves. The GOP needs to get a conscience. The GOP are truly awful people.

RDANGELO

(3,433 posts)
8. Here is the root of the problem.
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 01:38 PM
Jun 2012

The party is dominated by what I call tribal minded whites. They are the ones who are dominating the nomination process and voting in the primaries. As long as that is the case, the Republicans are going to have this problem.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
9. Progressive strategist (KamaAina): "Republicans are 'caught with their pants on fire' on everything"
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 01:40 PM
Jun 2012

Baitball Blogger

(46,698 posts)
10. Let me get this straight.
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 01:47 PM
Jun 2012

You have all kinds of Republican voters brainwashed into thinking that anti-immigration is part of the Republican platform, but you have Republican strategists who need to find a way to present themselves to the latino voters as pro-immigration?

What is so screwy about this system, is that they will probably find a way to split the message and achieve this objective.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
11. I have an Hispanic neighbor next door who listens to Limbaugh
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 01:59 PM
Jun 2012

so I wonder if there's an ideological split in that community

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
29. I'm not sure, I don't know him well but am curious.
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 01:15 PM
Jun 2012

I've wanted to have a chat ever since I started hearing
the radio show across the fence.. I'd like to find out what he thinks, and why.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
14. The electorate repukes appeal to
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 02:04 PM
Jun 2012

has been shrinking since the 60's. In another 8 years, unless they field a progressive candidate, they will always lose.

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
18. That image...a Republican with their pants down....is enough to make me sick......
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 05:54 PM
Jun 2012

but....Mr. Rollins is correct. Obama's team is looking closely at demographics, polling data, etc. and concluded that this move would strengthen his position among Latinos.

We know that RMoney's immigration policy is self-deportation.

So this was a no-brainer for the President in wooing that demographic. There is a risk this could alienate some Independents that see illegal immigration as a major issue.

But I think the positives outweigh the negatives and, even if this was more for political gain than principle, I stand with the President since the do-nothing Repukkkes in Congress are never going to take up any meaningful immigration reform. They are xenophobes but they love foreign-made goods, especially goods made by communists in China because they are cheap.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
19. The WaPo has gotten really good about posting dispatches from
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 06:50 PM
Jun 2012

the Department of the Obvious.

News flash: Repigs had already lost the Latino vote before Obama's announcement.

egbertowillies

(4,058 posts)
24. Republicans must give up on the latino
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 11:28 PM
Jun 2012

vote and with that the election. It must be sold that a vote for a Republican is a vote for all that was bad in America, prejudice, sexism, totalitarianism.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
25. "Republicans need to be very careful
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 05:25 AM
Jun 2012

about how they respond to Obama’s new immigration announcement, because Americans view the issue as one about fundamental fairness."


No, REALLY,... WE want to know how they think and feel exactly, so we the American public, can deal with them in a proper manner.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
27. I only hope that
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 10:24 AM
Jun 2012

while they're struggling to get their pants back up before they fall down, that Obama is planning taking similar action in other areas. The DREAM act wasn't the only obstruction he encountered.

He has 4 months to right a few wrongs before the election. Don't waste time; keep them on the defensive and simultaneously move us forward.

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