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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 02:59 PM Jun 2016

First Rise in U.S. Death Rate in Years Surprises Experts

Source: New York Times

WASHINGTON — The death rate in the United States rose last year for the first time in a decade, preliminary federal data show, a rare increase that was driven in part by more people dying from drug overdoses, suicide and Alzheimer’s disease. The death rate from heart disease, long in decline, edged up slightly.

Death rates — measured as the number of deaths per 100,000 people — have been declining for years, an effect of improvements in health, disease management and medical technology.

While recent research has documented sharp rises in death rates among certain groups — in particular less educated whites, who have been hardest hit by the prescription drug epidemic — increases for the entire population are relatively rare.

Federal researchers cautioned that it was too early to tell whether the rising mortality among whites had pushed up the overall national death rate. (Preliminary data is not broken down by race, and final data will not be out until later this year.) But they said the rise was real, and while it is premature to ring an alarm now, if it continues, it could be a signal of distress in the health of the nation.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/01/health/american-death-rate-rises-for-first-time-in-a-decade.html?_r=0



No surprise here. The whole nation is slowing dying. Just look around you and watch some news that doesn't originate from our lame MSM.
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First Rise in U.S. Death Rate in Years Surprises Experts (Original Post) Purveyor Jun 2016 OP
what people don't realize is that downturns can often only be swings in a bigger trend MisterP Jun 2016 #1
Health care system out of many people's reach, both parties in denial about it. Baobab Jun 2016 #18
Middle class dying, death rate rising brentspeak Jun 2016 #2
It's things like how our dirt has half the minerals it used to. Gregorian Jun 2016 #3
Wow, what a dreary world you live in... former9thward Jun 2016 #14
Yes our food has changed so much that is true and IMO plays a big role. Person 2713 Jun 2016 #27
Boomers are aging Runningdawg Jun 2016 #4
Alzheimers and heart disease are only two likely boomer causes; suicide and overdoses, no. ancianita Jun 2016 #5
And aynrandius. Dont call me Shirley Jun 2016 #21
... ancianita Jun 2016 #22
What you're saying…. zentrum Jun 2016 #7
they see people living too long without spending enough money Baobab Jun 2016 #19
Half the country live as low wage-slaves ... ananda Jun 2016 #6
"Experts" are usually the last to see what's in front of their noses. n/t TygrBright Jun 2016 #8
But America is exceptional! Enthusiast Jun 2016 #9
Opioid drug abuse and overdoses... FailureToCommunicate Jun 2016 #10
The poor can finally get into the hospital! Baobab Jun 2016 #20
Horrible to contemplate. ancianita Jun 2016 #23
Money is tight, and healthcare is a service that people need to survive, so under capitalism Baobab Jun 2016 #24
Proving that profit motive can be a savage impulse. ancianita Jun 2016 #28
Death rates are higher - even when an aging population is taken into account LongTomH Jun 2016 #11
hope for a future has also died and taken sanity with it. bbgrunt Jun 2016 #12
The answer is actually pretty simple. Moostache Jun 2016 #13
But, we're sxporting our system to lots of other counries, getting them to give up their public syst Baobab Jun 2016 #25
Unfortunately the net birth rate in the US is still around 4.5/100,000 GliderGuider Jun 2016 #15
+1 nt PasadenaTrudy Jun 2016 #16
With the Rethugs in Congress killing people through their policies left and right... harrose Jun 2016 #17
Yes, blame them! hear hear.. Baobab Jun 2016 #26

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
1. what people don't realize is that downturns can often only be swings in a bigger trend
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 03:04 PM
Jun 2016

ditto violence--I can't count how many "downturns" in homicide Mexico, Central America, or Colombia have seen when there's an underlying problem generating it

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
18. Health care system out of many people's reach, both parties in denial about it.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 09:42 PM
Jun 2016

Public anger rising.

brentspeak

(18,290 posts)
2. Middle class dying, death rate rising
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 03:13 PM
Jun 2016

Meanwhile, the corporate media tells us we're in an "economic recovery".

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
3. It's things like how our dirt has half the minerals it used to.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 03:15 PM
Jun 2016

In other words, if you're eating food today, it's not like food people ate in 1930. Stress comes in all forms, and that's a big one.

Population is a stress most people don't even pay attention to.

Then there's fake election; bad politicians; wars.

I don't know anyone who even enjoys life, let alone looks and acts like Dick Van Dyke. Those days are long gone.

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
27. Yes our food has changed so much that is true and IMO plays a big role.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 10:30 AM
Jun 2016

I am currently heathy and happy and it could change in a second due to many factors you stated .
Also it takes money and time and purposeful avoidance /awareness which is not,unfortunately, available to all for a plethora of reasons

Runningdawg

(4,496 posts)
4. Boomers are aging
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 04:01 PM
Jun 2016

add that to the fact that some can still not afford health care. Yes, they buy insurance but that hardly solves the problem. We have what is considered good insurance through my husbands job and even we have to save up for a copay if we need to see a Dr. Then we save up to fill a Rx if there is one. Drs may have dropped the "pre-existing condition" but they are finding new ways to get around it. Each year the deductible increases, the list of providers grows shorter and the wait time to see one grows longer.
The rise in the death rate has just started, it will keep growing.

ancianita

(35,816 posts)
5. Alzheimers and heart disease are only two likely boomer causes; suicide and overdoses, no.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 04:12 PM
Jun 2016

Boomers' medicare mitigates some of their death these days, but suicides and drug overdoses, no matter the health insurance, is hard to mitigate.

Boomers' death rates are a function of age. The other ages' deaths are more a function of pervasive system problems in this country.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
7. What you're saying….
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 04:47 PM
Jun 2016

……doesn't make sense, I think.

There have always been older Americans dying.

I'm sure the death rate is indexed to the population rate, so that even though boomers expanded the birth rate back in the 40's, their death rate is relative to that.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
19. they see people living too long without spending enough money
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 09:44 PM
Jun 2016

many people are seen by advertising, lobbyists and politicians as "dead weight" if they don't spend enough.

ananda

(28,783 posts)
6. Half the country live as low wage-slaves ...
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 04:26 PM
Jun 2016

... and do have access to decent nutrition and healthcare.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
9. But America is exceptional!
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 05:15 PM
Jun 2016

Exceptionally poor in several key categories that determine quality of life.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
24. Money is tight, and healthcare is a service that people need to survive, so under capitalism
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 10:13 AM
Jun 2016

the profit has to be optimized.

Poor people can cause a lot of economic activity with their body parts. That's the 'most efficient' outcome.

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
11. Death rates are higher - even when an aging population is taken into account
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 05:23 PM
Jun 2016

Age-adjusted rates are up this year: US Death Rate Rises, But Health Officials Aren't Sure Why:

"Among the causes of death included in this report, increases between 2014 and 2015 in both crude and age-adjusted death rates were observed for Alzheimer's disease, chronic liver disease and cirrhosis, chronic lower respiratory diseases, hypertension, Parkinson's disease, septicemia, homicide, firearm-related injury, suicide, and unintentional injury and drug overdose," the NCHS, part of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said in its report.

These death rates are age-adjusted, meaning the age of the population is taken into account so that it doesn't appear that deaths rates rose simply because one group of people happened to be older than another group, for instance.

If the trend continues as the data is analyzed, and if it's seen again next year, then health officials will know something is changing.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
13. The answer is actually pretty simple.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 06:16 PM
Jun 2016

People are dying more because we are NOT so super-duper star-spangled awesome as a nation.

We used to suck a lot less.
Now? We suck more...

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
25. But, we're sxporting our system to lots of other counries, getting them to give up their public syst
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 10:19 AM
Jun 2016

forever.

That's success.

We will soon be able to export the sick as well, won't that be great? Everybody out, nobody in. If you want to be healthy and wealthy, live in the US and spend your millions here, if you want to be sick, live in Nauru and be washed away by the next big storm.

The magic of the marketplace.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
15. Unfortunately the net birth rate in the US is still around 4.5/100,000
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 08:25 PM
Jun 2016

Y'all will have start snorting way more oxy and rolling on lots more condoms if you want to bring that statistic down. It's shameful that in this day and age a large, modern nation like the US would have a positive birth rate.

harrose

(380 posts)
17. With the Rethugs in Congress killing people through their policies left and right...
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 09:08 PM
Jun 2016

... it's no surprise. Every single ReThug should be tried as an accessory to murder for every extra person who dies because of them.

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