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alp227

(32,015 posts)
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:36 PM Jun 2016

US cities see unexplained rise in violent crimes this year

Source: AP

CHICAGO (AP) — Violent crimes — from homicides and rapes to robberies — have been on the rise in many major U.S. cities, yet experts can't point to a single reason why and the jump isn't enough to suggest there's a trend.

Still, it is stumping law enforcement officials, who are seeking a way to combat the problem.

"It's being reported on at local levels, but in my view, it's not getting the attention at the national level it deserves," FBI Director James Comey said recently. "I don't know what the answer is, but holy cow, do we have a problem."

Americans have grown accustomed to low crime rates since a peak in the 1990s. But law enforcement started seeing a spike last year that has continued unabated. What's unusual, however, is that it's not happening everywhere. Chicago and Los Angeles are seeing homicides on the rise, but other places like Miami and Oakland are not.

Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ac9b4d33fac7404592b6f316b4ca6c28/us-cities-see-unexplained-rise-violent-crimes-year

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US cities see unexplained rise in violent crimes this year (Original Post) alp227 Jun 2016 OP
A clear formula: economy + gunz ananda Jun 2016 #1
economy + gunz + trump hate agenda? jwirr Jun 2016 #3
Yeah gangs are killing each other in Chicago because of Trump. former9thward Jun 2016 #14
Check the lead levels. n/t theaocp Jun 2016 #2
10-15 years ago. Lots of house flipping. No RRP lead enforcement. Festivito Jun 2016 #6
Police not being pro-active has a lot to do with it. The economy virgogal Jun 2016 #4
Desperation mode. seabeckind Jun 2016 #5
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #7
It's a job. Do it or get fired. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #8
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #10
It does make sense. christx30 Jun 2016 #16
Yup! Angel Martin Jun 2016 #22
Hahahahaha! theaocp Jun 2016 #9
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #11
They go to the "worst" places because theaocp Jun 2016 #13
Does that work for any employee? Igel Jun 2016 #23
Welcome to DU. You seem to be saying there is an explanation for the increase. What do you think uppityperson Jun 2016 #12
Broken economy, easy access to guns, systematic racism, mistrust of police. ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2016 #15
Yup, things are really bad farleftlib Jun 2016 #18
Suicides have gone up too TexasBushwhacker Jun 2016 #21
Or it's from something basic: crumbled water lines and lead in the water. ancianita Jun 2016 #17
In NYC, we're still fighting off 20 years of Rethug rule... harrose Jun 2016 #19
I'm certainly no fan of Giuliani and voted for De Blasio, branford Jun 2016 #20
A variety of reasons romanic Jun 2016 #24

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
6. 10-15 years ago. Lots of house flipping. No RRP lead enforcement.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 03:32 PM
Jun 2016

Possibly dad would return home from upgrading a house to flip, or family lived in part of a house getting ready to be flipped.

 

virgogal

(10,178 posts)
4. Police not being pro-active has a lot to do with it. The economy
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 03:28 PM
Jun 2016

is no worse than it was a couple of years ago and the amounts of guns on the street probably hasn't changed.

seabeckind

(1,957 posts)
5. Desperation mode.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 03:28 PM
Jun 2016

People are barely surviving in a very hostile situation.

Try looking at this other thread and try to recognize what's going on in the cities... the areas that bear the brunt of the economic downturns. Eg, the closing manufacturing after the inherent value has been extracted by the "investors".

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017381427

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christx30

(6,241 posts)
16. It does make sense.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 06:50 PM
Jun 2016

After the Freddy Gray thing started, Baltimore cops took a hands off approach to law enforcement. No one wanted to risk a stop going bad. Murders there broke records.
Plus you're risking death, loss of job, jail ect to save the lives of people that say "fuck the police" and "snitches get stitches".
Sit in your car. Do your 20. Get your pension.

Angel Martin

(942 posts)
22. Yup!
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:53 PM
Jun 2016

and after the riots Baltimore did not have single officers patrolling alone.

if you have two per car instead of one per car you can attend to half of the calls you did before.

Also, BPD is having trouble recruiting and with early retirements.
http://www.wbaltv.com/news/baltimore-police-department-wants-to-rehire-its-retirees/36919000

Police officers in suburban and rural areas are safer, the population backs you, and the cost of living is less.

theaocp

(4,235 posts)
9. Hahahahaha!
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 05:26 PM
Jun 2016

"Amazing sense of duty"? They signed up for it. They don't like it, they can quit. Go troll elsewhere.

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theaocp

(4,235 posts)
13. They go to the "worst" places because
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 06:15 PM
Jun 2016

they signed up for the job and were assigned there by their superiors. Pray tell, what did I miss?

Igel

(35,296 posts)
23. Does that work for any employee?
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:27 PM
Jun 2016

Things change at work, conditions are horrible, and the appropriate response is to leave if you don't like the working conditions, safety, pay, etc.?

Rather makes unions and collective bargaining seem unnecessary to the point of being wrong.

Government regulation of the workplace, too.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
12. Welcome to DU. You seem to be saying there is an explanation for the increase. What do you think
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 05:44 PM
Jun 2016

the reason is? I'd like to hear your thoughts, thanks.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,868 posts)
15. Broken economy, easy access to guns, systematic racism, mistrust of police.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 06:46 PM
Jun 2016

This is only unexpected to white suburb dwellers. This is the country we have built for ourselves.

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
18. Yup, things are really bad
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:35 PM
Jun 2016

and they're going to get worse. And when that happens and people see no way out

harrose

(380 posts)
19. In NYC, we're still fighting off 20 years of Rethug rule...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:37 PM
Jun 2016

... 20 years of the worst crime this city has ever seen. DeBlasio's going to need more than four years to undo two decades of damage and corruption.

 

branford

(4,462 posts)
20. I'm certainly no fan of Giuliani and voted for De Blasio,
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:26 PM
Jun 2016

but crime rates improved markedly with Giuliani from their dismal rates under Koch and Dinkins. In fact, the crime problem was one of the primary reasons why Giuliani was (re)elected and DeBalsio hired Bill Bratton, Giuliani's original, hand-picked police commissioner as his own.

Further, increasing crime has led to recent historic lows for DeBlasio's approval rating (and his fairly recent conflicts with the police unions also significantly hurt his public support).

You (and I) might not like conservative criminal justice policies in NYC, but comparing crime rates and public perception of city safety and security is currently a very dangerous game for NYC Democrats, as it is in other Democratically-controlled cities like LA, Chicago and Baltimore.

http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/nycrime.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-20536359
http://nypost.com/2016/04/15/de-blasios-approval-rating-reaches-all-time-low/

romanic

(2,841 posts)
24. A variety of reasons
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:50 PM
Jun 2016

Wishy-washy economy, police corruption, gangs, access to illegal assault weapons, broken homes/families, poor schools and education, etc etc.

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