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NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 10:23 PM Jun 2016

OHP Uses New Device To Seize Money Used During The Commission Of A Crime

Source: News9


"You may have heard of civil asset forfeiture.
That's where police can seize your property and cash without first proving you committed a crime; without a warrant and without arresting you, as long as they suspect that your property is somehow tied to a crime.

Now, the Oklahoma Highway Patrol has a device that also allows them to seize money in your bank account or on prepaid cards.

It's called an ERAD, or Electronic Recovery and Access to Data machine, and state police began using 16 of them last month.

Here's how it works. If a trooper suspects you may have money tied to some type of crime, the highway patrol can scan any cards you have and seize the money.


http://m.news9.com/story.aspx?story=32168555&catId=112032

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A whole other can of worms has just been opened with this one.
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OHP Uses New Device To Seize Money Used During The Commission Of A Crime (Original Post) NWCorona Jun 2016 OP
I just don't f'n know anything anymore. Beam me up! Purveyor Jun 2016 #1
For real! NWCorona Jun 2016 #2
So while the dog's sniffing around your vehicle they're checking Lars39 Jun 2016 #3
Seems like that would be the likely road this would lead to. NWCorona Jun 2016 #4
And then too broke to fight back. :-( Lars39 Jun 2016 #5
Yup! This can't be allowed to stand. NWCorona Jun 2016 #6
In the stretch near Nashville where Lars39 Jun 2016 #7
WTF happened to due process? dickthegrouch Jun 2016 #8
And who would you swear that.. Delver Rootnose Jun 2016 #9
I could see cops pulling over drivers with Clinton bumper stickers.... harrose Jun 2016 #10
"or that the cards were used to buy gas" progree Jun 2016 #12
Don't worry. "If you can prove that you have a legitimate reason to have that money it will be progree Jun 2016 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Th1onein Jun 2016 #17
I was being sarcastic progree Jun 2016 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Th1onein Jun 2016 #20
Try storing your cards in an Altoids tin or a metal cigarette case while driving. roamer65 Jun 2016 #13
Sounds like BIG GUBMINT to me nikto Jun 2016 #14
K&R felix_numinous Jun 2016 #15
I've been pulled over three out of four times I've driven on I-40 in east Oklahoma. cpwm17 Jun 2016 #16
k&r nt bananas Jun 2016 #19
WOW. I won't be going to OK for ANY reason. eppur_se_muova Jun 2016 #21
Yeah if I wasn't visiting OK before this I sure as fuck wouldn't now. 47of74 Jun 2016 #22

Lars39

(26,106 posts)
3. So while the dog's sniffing around your vehicle they're checking
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 10:34 PM
Jun 2016

your bank balance? Too much money in your account and all of a sudden you've been involved in crime and they seize all your money?

Lars39

(26,106 posts)
7. In the stretch near Nashville where
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 10:42 PM
Jun 2016

the Highway Patrol and city cops sit and wait, Homeland Security is there also.
Fish rotting from the top.

dickthegrouch

(3,169 posts)
8. WTF happened to due process?
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 10:43 PM
Jun 2016

I'd swear out a theft complaint against any cop who even tried this on my cards.

Delver Rootnose

(250 posts)
9. And who would you swear that..
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:00 PM
Jun 2016

..compliant out to. Mmmmmmm. We are a police state. Just face it. Of course rich people with Cayman island accounts don't have to worry.

harrose

(380 posts)
10. I could see cops pulling over drivers with Clinton bumper stickers....
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:19 PM
Jun 2016

... saying that they were driving 5 MPH over the limit, taking their bank/ATM cards and draining their cards, claiming that the bank cards were speeding with the driver (or that the cards were used to buy gas, or whatever...).

progree

(10,889 posts)
11. Don't worry. "If you can prove that you have a legitimate reason to have that money it will be
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:29 PM
Jun 2016

given back to you", Oklahoma Highway Patrol Lt. John Vincent said.

[hr]

Whew. For a moment I was worried.



{sarcasm thingy}

Response to progree (Reply #11)

progree

(10,889 posts)
18. I was being sarcastic
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:07 AM
Jun 2016

I put a {sarcasm thingy} at the bottom of my post, instead of a so that people would see the sarcasm indicator last rather than first.

What Oklahoma is doing is an outrage. And to justify it with:

"If you can prove that you have a legitimate reason to have that money it will be given back to you",

as the OHP Lieutenant did, is the most audacious, unbelievable statement in defense of this that is imaginable -- that my money is theirs until I can prove that it is mine. Orwellian.

Response to progree (Reply #18)

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
13. Try storing your cards in an Altoids tin or a metal cigarette case while driving.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:51 PM
Jun 2016

Carry only your drivers license unshielded.

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
16. I've been pulled over three out of four times I've driven on I-40 in east Oklahoma.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:09 AM
Jun 2016

The last time for having the frame around my license plate that came with the car. It is part of the scam.

They spent some time looking for drugs. I have a Florida plate, which makes me a target in Texas and Oklahoma. I've lost track of how many times I've been pulled over in Texas. I don't get pulled over in Florida, though.

eppur_se_muova

(36,247 posts)
21. WOW. I won't be going to OK for ANY reason.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 11:17 AM
Jun 2016

Driving, flying, walking -- makes no difference. Not even passing through.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
22. Yeah if I wasn't visiting OK before this I sure as fuck wouldn't now.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 08:36 PM
Jun 2016

And a great big F you to the tick turds who thought this was a good idea.

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