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Roland99

(53,342 posts)
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 12:34 PM Jun 2012

Breakdown of new $267 billion Operation Twist plan

Source: MarketWatch

The Federal Reserve's $267 billion extension of its Operation Twist program will have 32% of purchases between six and eight years, 32% between eight and ten years, 4% between 10 and 20 years, 29% between 20 and 30 years and 3% in TIPS. The program of bond buys and bond sells of securities three years and under will run through the end of 2012.




Read more: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/breakdown-of-new-267-billion-operation-twist-plan-2012-06-20?link=MW_home_latest_news




Well...mortgage rates should stay low for longer now but that's about it.


yay for more debt!
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Breakdown of new $267 billion Operation Twist plan (Original Post) Roland99 Jun 2012 OP
I don't think this causes more government debt. drm604 Jun 2012 #1
I think they know it won't do much bossy22 Jun 2012 #3
It may be better than nothing. drm604 Jun 2012 #4
this isn't increasing the amount of debt bossy22 Jun 2012 #2
mortgage rates should stay low for longer now but that's about it happynewyear Jun 2012 #5
nonsense - we are in a deflationary environment and have been since QE banned from Kos Jun 2012 #6
Japan? bossy22 Jun 2012 #8
IN A NUTSHELL, WHAT OUR ECONOMY NEEDS THE MOST IS JOBS... truedelphi Jun 2012 #7

drm604

(16,230 posts)
1. I don't think this causes more government debt.
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 01:04 PM
Jun 2012

The Fed buys bonds in the aftermarket. In other words, they're buying previously issued bonds, so this is not new government debt.

However, like you, I'm skeptical that this will achieve much. When there's no reason to hire people (no demand for goods and services) nobody's going to borrow in order to hire people, even if interest rates are lower.

bossy22

(3,547 posts)
2. this isn't increasing the amount of debt
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 02:25 PM
Jun 2012

This is just the fed buying debt that is already out there on the market.

happynewyear

(1,724 posts)
5. mortgage rates should stay low for longer now but that's about it
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 03:29 PM
Jun 2012

That is not "that's about it".

Lower rates = less money for savers which means less spending and more inflation inflation inflation which will be denied at all levels. How do you like that $5.00 loaf of bread soon to be a $10.00 loaf of bread?

Welcome to Japan!

Bernanke needs to find something else to do with his stupid self.



 

banned from Kos

(4,017 posts)
6. nonsense - we are in a deflationary environment and have been since QE
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 04:01 PM
Jun 2012

began in 2008.

All consumer commodities have fallen since then.

Someone is ripping you off with $5 bread. I pay less than $1 and only $2/gal for whole milk. Oil and gas are over 40% down since 2008.

bossy22

(3,547 posts)
8. Japan?
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 07:08 PM
Jun 2012

you do realize that Japan's "lost decade" was mainly due to deflationary pressures. Also, if you are just looking at comparitive food prices between the 2 nations you have to realize that japanese import 60% of their nations food so overall their costs are going to be higher.

The problem with the economy is that the demand for savings so outstrips the demand for investment so that normal central bank tools (such as interest rate changes) are no longer effective.

In fact we could use a little more inflation to get the real interest rate at equilibrium with the demand for savings.

remember, in an economy spending=income. if everyone saves at once, welcome to a depression

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
7. IN A NUTSHELL, WHAT OUR ECONOMY NEEDS THE MOST IS JOBS...
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 06:31 PM
Jun 2012

Unfortunately, everyone inside the Beltway has already determined that nothing like that will happen again.

Even the damn collection workers for Sallie Mae are in Bangladesh. If Americans cannot be ensured that they will at least get a job collecting for the student loan folks, how caa they be expected to pay said loans off?

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