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Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:57 PM

Pakistani girl burned alive by mother over love marriage

Source: Times of India

LAHORE: A teenage Pakistani girl was doused in petrol and then burned alive on Wednesday in Punjab's Lahore allegedly by her mother and brother for marrying a man of her choice, in the latest case of so-called "honour killings" in the country.

Zeenat, 18, died on the spot, police said.



Read more: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/pakistan/Pakistani-girl-burned-alive-by-mother-over-love-marriage/articleshow/52657173.cms

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Reply Pakistani girl burned alive by mother over love marriage (Original post)
MariaThinks Jun 2016 OP
apcalc Jun 2016 #1
Post removed Jun 2016 #2
warmonger456 Jun 2016 #9
liberal N proud Jun 2016 #3
elljay Jun 2016 #15
dixiegrrrrl Jun 2016 #16
GummyBearz Jun 2016 #17
romanic Jun 2016 #4
smirkymonkey Jun 2016 #5
blackspade Jun 2016 #6
leftynyc Jun 2016 #7
BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2016 #8
JI7 Jun 2016 #10
BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2016 #11
SunSeeker Jun 2016 #12
MariaThinks Jun 2016 #13
CanonRay Jun 2016 #14

Response to MariaThinks (Original post)

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:59 PM

1. Outrageous, deplorable

What this country and culture does to women...

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Response to Post removed (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:59 PM

9. WTF?

What in the world has this got to do anything with "multiculturalism"? It's just culture. Barking up the wrong tree here.

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Response to MariaThinks (Original post)

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:25 PM

3. Some people need to be excluded from society

How can a parent do something so deplorable to their own child?

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #3)

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:40 PM

15. Guilt society vs Shame Society

It is difficult for us to understand because our culture is what has been called a Guilt Society. It is possible to redeem oneself through apology, appropriate behavior, penance (e.g. prison term). One person's crime doesn't necessarily affect the entire family/town/region.

However, in a shame or honor society like Pakistan, the consequences for a breach of behavioral norm extend to entire clans and can result in generations of violence and discord. Think Hatfields and McCoys with Kalashnikovs, IEDs and gasoline. The mother's not participating in this would have been another breach and she, herself, would have been hunted down and killed by family members (not trying to excuse, trying to explain). The honor killing is required to preserve the status quo and is generally approved of by the community. This entire society will have to change to stop this horrifying behavior.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shame_society
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izzat_%28honour%29

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Response to elljay (Reply #15)

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 07:13 PM

16. Excellent explanation.

appears to be extremely easy for people in our society to inject judgment and blame .
And doubly difficult not to be aghast while still accepting a different reality.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #16)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 10:48 AM

17. You accept the reality of their society?

 

Cultural relativism has come to its ultimate extreme

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Response to MariaThinks (Original post)

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:27 PM

4. Horrible.

It's like these people have no fucking humanity or anything, I mean that's your child for God's sake. Smh

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Response to romanic (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:38 PM

5. Seriously! I will never get my mind around how someone could do such a thing

to their own child, no matter what they had done. They are cold, brutal people.

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Response to MariaThinks (Original post)

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:47 PM

6. WTF is wrong with people?

Burning her alive for fucking "honor?"

Fuck these assholes.

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Response to MariaThinks (Original post)

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:33 PM

7. Her MOTHER did this?

 

I'm not a parent but isn't it somewhat innate for a parent to PROTECT their child? And over fucking honor? This is sickening.

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Response to MariaThinks (Original post)

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:53 PM

8. India has a lonnnng "tradition" (ugh. vomit.) of dehumanizing girls

And women.
The more isolated, rural and religious/tribal the village, the harder such horrible beliefs hold on.

When a girl is born, there is no celebration..there are condolences and resentments.

god, how sad.


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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #8)

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:00 PM

10. This was in Lahore pakistan which is a major city . not some isolated village area

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Response to JI7 (Reply #10)

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:05 PM

11. Ah. I see. Thanks for the info.


Apparently, centuries old beliefs hold on in urban areas too. Misogyny is a global disease. Rural, urban, wealthy, poor...

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Response to MariaThinks (Original post)

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:17 PM

12. K & R for exposure. nt

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Response to MariaThinks (Original post)

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:22 PM

13. I'm greatly saddened by these horrible murders. I can't stop thinking of the horror the victims

must have felt.

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Response to MariaThinks (Original post)

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:25 PM

14. Barbarians

no other word for it.

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