BREAKING: At least nine wounded in shooting attack in central Tel Aviv: police

[Behind the Aegis]

Source: Rueters

At least nine people were wounded on Wednesday in a shooting incident in central Tel Aviv and one person was in critical condition, with Israeli police describing the shooting as an apparent attack aimed against Israelis.

The incident occurred in an area of trendy cafes and restaurants very close to the central military headquarters and Defence Ministry compound.

The attack was the first following in lull after almost daily street attacks by Palestinians against Israelis which began in October and lasted several months.


Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-palestinians-shooting-idUSKCN0YU2F1

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This is still "breaking news".

[AuntPatsy]

1. So very sad, the universe destroys even as it builds...we are no different...

[AuntPatsy]

9. All Palestine people?

[6chars]

10. Of course not.

Why would you say such a thing?

The people who did this are terrorist murderers.

Those people - it is not the universe, and not us, it is the people who did it and helped it who are evil. We should not pretend that they are just good people who did a bad thing, like all of us do sometimes. Please.

[AuntPatsy]

43. Im a bit confused by your response, I didn't mention the word good.

[AuntPatsy]

42. Similar crimes against others happen every day world wide, it's horrible what happened

Horrific and incredibly sad for thier loved ones but when I say we, not necessarily you or I, I mean our species, our group so to speak, terrorists labels can become confusing when all the details become known, rarely does that happen and even rarer still does enough people listen nor care to listen......

JMO

[6chars]

44. The terrorist label is not confusing to me at all

Christians, Jews, Hindus and Buddhists terrorists and others who do these things must be called out for what they are

[AuntPatsy]

45. Anyone who deliberately attempts to install fear of ones existence can be labeled a terrorist

Nor does one have to pretend such actions are always religious based....

I stand by my post, JMHO

[AngryAmish]

68. I live in Chicago. Multiple shooting happen weekly.

But hanging a nine count is worth noting. Even in Mexico and Venezuela nine is a big number.

[MosheFeingold]

7. Nope

I've never randomly shot a bunch of people at a cafe due to religious hatred of said people.

You may I have, but I presume not.

So no, we are very different from these religious fanatics.

[AuntPatsy]

8. Your statement proves not a religion, not a group think, nor a select body of countryman

should be held responsible, only those who pulled the trigger, I agree, I believe we are all capable in certain scenerios, but when it comes time to pull the trigger, you yourself retain 99 % blame..as it should be. Perhaps people would be more apt to use the gift of a brain wisely if they were able to fully justify such horrific acts......

[leftynyc]

12. I don't see anyone here making that case

so your post is the perfect example of a strawman.

[AuntPatsy]

15. Not at all, it's your words, I just agreed

[MariaThinks]

18. What universe? It was a human attacker.

[Mohammed_Lee]

29. I'm different.....

I don't shoot people I don't like....

[leftynyc]

3. I know exactly where this happened

Nothing about the scumbag murderer in that piece. I'm going to look around to see if I can find something.

[6chars]

11. this might help

http://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Likud-MK-Ohana-Tel-Aviv-terrorists-2-Palestinians-from-South-Hebron-Hills-456298

[6chars]

4. now at least 3 killed by terrorists.

one person in critical condition.

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Initial-report-Shooting-in-central-Tel-Aviv-456291

(might update title)

[leftynyc]

6. Whoops

posted mine right after yours.

[leftynyc]

5. 3 dead

Scum dressed as ultra Orthodox.

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Initial-report-Shooting-in-central-Tel-Aviv-456291

[MariaThinks]

19. scum indeed.

[6chars]

13. Prayers for the victims and their families

[askeptic]

14. Been Going on a long time -- grievances on all sides

Despite a long-term peace process and the general reconciliation of Israel with Egypt and Jordan, Israelis and Palestinians have failed to reach a final peace agreement. The remaining key issues are: mutual recognition, borders, security, water rights, control of Jerusalem, Israeli settlements,[11] Palestinian freedom of movement,[12] and Palestinian right of return. The violence of the conflict, in a region rich in sites of historic, cultural and religious interest worldwide, has been the object of numerous international conferences dealing with historic rights, security issues and human rights, and has been a factor hampering tourism in and general access to areas that are hotly contested.[13]

Many UN resolutions condemning Israel (70+)

Aside from the core issues—refugees, Jerusalem, borders—the major themes reflected in the U.N. resolutions against Israel over the years are its unlawful attacks on its neighbors; its violations of the human rights of the Palestinians, including deportations, demolitions of homes and other collective punishments; its confiscation of Palestinian land; its establishment of illegal settlements; and its refusal to abide by the U.N. Charter and the 1949 Fourth Geneva Convention Relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War.

Yep, it's just hard to understand why there are Palestinian "terrorists" at all. -sarcasm

As long as Israel acts as if it is blameless and refuses to change its ways, there will not be a resolution.

[leftynyc]

16. As long as the UN

pretends the Palestinians are blameless for voting in corrupt and terrorist leaders, Israel will see no reason to give them any mind whatsoever and I don't blame them for that.

[7962]

25. Absolutely correct nt

[askeptic]

28. Israel killed more Palestinian civilians in 2014 than in any other year since the occupation of the

Israel killed more Palestinian civilians in 2014 than in any other year since the occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip began in 1967, a UN report has said.

The Guardian:
Israel’s activities in the Gaza Strip, West Bank and East Jerusalem resulted in the deaths of 2,314 Palestinians and 17,125 injuries, compared with 39 deaths and 3,964 injuries in 2013, according to the annual report (pdf) by the UN Office for the Co-ordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA).

The conflict in Gaza in July and August was largely responsible for the dramatic increase in fatalities. It claimed the lives of 2,220 Gazans, of whom 1,492 were civilians, 605 militants and 123 unverified.

More than 11,000 people were injured and about 500,000 Palestinians were internally displaced at the height of the conflict. About 100,000 remain so.
There was also a sharp rise in fatalities in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, where 58 Palestinians were killed and 6,028 injured – the highest number of fatalities in incidents involving Israeli forces since 2007 and the highest number of injuries since 2005.

Most of the incidents took place in the second half of the year, following the abduction and murder of Mohammed Abu Khdeir, which led to daily riots and protests in East Jerusalem.

Khdeir, a 16-year-old Palestinian, was kidnapped and killed in July, following the abduction and murder of three Israeli teenagers the previous month.


Breakdown of Deaths since 2000

Israelis Palestinians
Children Killed 129 1523


It's all "disgusting" because Palestinian lives matter as much as Israeli lives. Time to face reality

[6chars]

41. Although the details are lost to history

You are talking about the battle with Gaza after Hamas intentionally fired hundreds of missiles at civilian targets and during which they fired thousands more from residential locations, schools and hospitals, and launched terrorist raids targeting civilians with tunnels into israeli communities, also emanting from residential areas.You can say that is cool or whatever, but it is perhaps relevant context.

[leftynyc]

47. Like I said

Vote in leaders that ARE a terrorist organization who shoots hundreds of rockets into Israel, you don't get to whine about the consequences. I guess they can whine but it doesn't touch me at all. The got what they voted for. I sincerely wish their leaders agreed with you but it sure doesn't seem they even care about their own people's lives at all.

[smirkymonkey]

67. +1000

*This*

[leftynyc]

48. Well, this is surely incovenient

timing for you but hamas has claimed these terrorists as their own and praise them:

In an official statement on Twitter early on Thursday, Hamas praised the shooting as “heroic” and intimated that more attacks would follow over the month-long Muslim holiday of Ramadan, which started this week.

A Hamas media outlet shared a photo of a traditional Palestinian Ramadan treat being stuffed with a bullet with the caption “Tel Aviv operation.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-claims-tel-aviv-terrorists-as-its-own/

Here's some more for you to chew on from that article:

UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon voiced outrage at Hamas’s celebration of the shooting, saying in a statement that he was “shocked that the leaders of Hamas have chosen to welcome this attack and some have chosen to celebrate it.”

[oberliner]

17. What a disgusting post

Innocent Israeli civilians were just killed by terrorists.

[MariaThinks]

20. i guess when Israel reacts to this, who can blame them right.

[askeptic]

30. You think Israel doesn't react? Since October 206 Palestinians killed, 33 Israeli's killed,

In a wave of violence since October, the Israeli army has killed at least 206 Palestinians, including protesters, bystanders and alleged attackers, while 33 Israelis have been killed in stabbing and shooting incidents.

That's from the thread just above about Illegal Israeli homebuilding, then there's another one about the Israeli PM wanting to do Palestinian ethnic cleansing. You'd think that any Israeli would recoil in horror at the idea that "those other people" don't really count. Talk about disgusting...

[6chars]

32. foolish

This is a really amazing piece of propaganda (or Hamasbara).

"In a wave of violence since October, the Israeli army has killed at least 206 Palestinians" - Lie does not begin to describe this statement.

Here, this is better.
"In launching a wave of violence against Jews since October, Palestinians terrorists have killed 33 Jews and have gotten 206 of themselves killed."

You're welcome.

[askeptic]

34. Sorry - Guess my appeal to understanding is just too big of a leap

I notice the coexist - no one who believes in coexistence thinks one side is right and the other wrong.

Do you honestly think these terrorist acts occur in a vacuum? Are you honestly trying to tell me they are totally unprovoked? Do you think a PM proposing Palestinian ethnic cleansing doesn't arouse passions? It's funny you posting a propaganda piece about the other side's propaganda

Frederick Douglass summarized the same situation in another time:

Where justice is denied,
where poverty is enforced,
where ignorance prevails,
and where any one class is made to feel that society is an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob and degrade them,
neither persons nor property will be safe.

Frederick Douglass

[Little Tich]

35. Could you please stop posting that hateful crap?

This OP is about terrorists indiscriminately gunning down people at a cafe, not a forum for promoting racism.

BTW, Bedein is using fake footage for the "documentary" in your post:

Wikipedia: David Bedein
(snip)

Under the Direction of David Bedein The Center for Near East Policy Research and www.IsraelBehindTheNews.com have produced a number of investigative video productions. In July 2013 they released the film titled "Camp Jihad" allegedly showing activities and interviews in which UNRWA promotes anti-Semitism and incitement to violence in its 'summer camps'. This was not the first time he dealt with this topic. UNRWA released an official rejection of these claims, claiming the summer camp shown, and the people involved are not affiliated with UNRWA. In a November 2013 meeting between US Secretary of State, John Kerry and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, parts of this film were shown.

Films Produced by the Center for Near East Policy Research:

2015 'Iran: Billions for Terror'
2015 'Children's Army of Hamas'
2014 'UNRWA Goes to War'
2013 'Camp Jihad'
2011 'UNRWA Right of Return Summer Camp'
2011 'Palestinian Refugee Policy: From Despair to Hope - Parts 1—2'
2010 'For the Sake of Nakba'
2004 'Hostages of Hatred - Parts 1—6'

Read more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bedein

[Little Tich]

38. I suppose one man's racist hatemonger is another man's social worker and investigative journalist.

I think you're promoting racist views, but I'm not going to war with you on this.

[smirkymonkey]

69. Horrifying!

To hear children speak like that is just blood curdling.

[Sunlei]

52. They already 'reacted' It's Ramadan, more then 100k Pals were to 'holiday' with family IN Israel.

Permits to enter Israel are canceled.

[bluestateguy]

22. Disgustng

nt

[7962]

26. Maybe because Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, etc, have some damn sense.

They all learned long ago that it was against their best interest to continue attacking Israel. Now there is peace between them all and has been for many years.
Maybe ONE DAY the "palestinians" will become cognizant of the REAL world, where Israel is on everyones map except theirs. When tat day comes, and they renounce terrorist groups as their "leaders", maybe THEN they will know the peace that the others know. Otherwise, tough shit, turn yourselves into Syria, the only other active opponent to Israel. Its turning out really well for them, isnt it?

[bluestateguy]

21. Disgusting

nt

[Vinca]

23. AKA any night in Chicago. Without the coverage.

[maxsolomon]

24. what is your point in posting this?

is it some sort of gun control critique? an indictment of media complacency?

if there was a similar incident (in terms of people shot & killed) in Chicago, it would be national news. the steady drip drip of isolated 1 on 1 shootings by disenfranchised youth is not the same.

you belittle both problems by trying to link them.

[Vinca]

49. Well, let me pick my jaw up off the floor.

I find it odd that an event in Israel garners more attention than the carnage that takes place on American streets every day of the week. What the hell is wrong with that statement?

[maxsolomon]

64. because you well know it is a politically fraught subject

if you would like to post a daily summary of the previous day's carnage in Chicago, LBN is right there.

this was a terror attack on what many consider America's 51st state. Chicago's turf battles are not terror attacks.

[Vinca]

65. Terror, terror, terror. It gets good ratings for the networks!

America's 51st state? Really? I thought that might be Washington, D.C. or Puerto Rico.

[maxsolomon]

66. you haven't been paying attention to the yearly AIPAC obesiance, then

I don't know if the network's ratings were helped by reporting this attack. no one I know watches TV news.

[Vinca]

71. Well, excuse me.

Some of us lowlifes get our news in a number of places including television. You should remember that the Jewish population in this country is very small. Less than 2% I think. Our current relationship with Israel is a mystery to me. I've never figured out what we get out of the deal other than the occasional handshake and thumbs up.

[oberliner]

46. Another disgusting post

[Vinca]

50. What, exactly, is disgusting about the post?

Don't you think Americans who die on a daily basis on American streets deserve the same coverage as an event in Israel? We ignore an ongoing slaughter that takes down a jumbo jet number of people per week, but drop everything for a tragic event in another country? I find it bizarre anyone would call my comment disgusting.

[oberliner]

53. A coordinated terrorist attack against random civilians is dismissed as no big deal

Because Chicago has a lot of gun violence?

[Vinca]

57. Dead is dead. I'm sure the victims don't care whether it was a terrorist who pulled the trigger

or the maniac down the block. Terrorism, of course, gets better ratings. Keep the sheeple scared.

[oberliner]

72. Right

But I'm saying I found your response distasteful for the reason I indicated. It seemed to display a complete lack of feeling for the innocent people who were killed in the attack.

Yes, there are lots of awful things happening and people being killed every day, but that doesn't mean one cannot express sorrow for individual tragedies.

[Vinca]

73. If we spent our time expressing sorrow for individual victims, we wouldn't have time

to do anything else with our lives. Of course I sympathize, but I also sympathize with the 33,000 Americans who die from gun violence every year who aren't featured on television news.

[christx30]

54. The shootings in Chicago are done by criminals.

Gang members. Drug dealers. Thieves.
What do you want to do about it? Kill or arrest the criminals?
Shootings happen all the time, everywhere. As long as humans inhabit this rock, there are going to be bad people.

[Vinca]

58. I sure hope your post is meant to be sarcasm.

There are 300 million guns in this country and we are number one in the world on gun ownership per capita. Perhaps we could eliminate a few. There will always be crime, but it doesn't have to be as easy to accomplish as it is right now.

[christx30]

60. So pass a law that makes guns illegal.

Let's see how long it takes to get 300 million guns off the streets. Let's see how many previously law abiding people will become criminals by refusing to turn in their weapons.

[Vinca]

62. That would be a dream come true.

Look at what Australia did. Our job is obviously bigger, but you won't get anywhere if you don't try.

[christx30]

70. I'd love to see more attempts to get

violent gangs and drug dealers off the street. But I guess as long as they are just killing their own kind and people in the poorer neighborhoods, it's all good for the city's leaders.

[bdwker]

56. Wow....just....wow.

[Vinca]

59. Yep. I said "wow" too when I learned a jumbo jet load of passengers fall victim to gun violence

in this country every week. I guess the media doesn't cover the carnage because they wouldn't have time for anything else if they did.

[BlueNoMatterWho]

27. Video of the attack

So sad.

[Angel Martin]

39. Ugly ! just Ugly

It happens so fast that if you are at the wrong place at the wrong time... you don't have a chance.

one small mercy, I think one shooter's gun jammed or malfunctioned, the way the threw it down.

[Marrah_G]

31. Very Sad, I hate all the violence

Edit: Just read there were deaths....so very, very tragic.

[Little Tich]

36. Horrible. n/t

[romanic]

40. Terrible. :(

[Sunlei]

51. How horrible, 2 men in suits order food & then start shooting.

[bdwker]

55. I'm always amazed when it comes to terrorism here.

Isis , book haram, al Qaeda .... Outrage!

Hamas , Hezbollah.."who cares"

Why is that ?

[DavidDvorkin]

61. Even worse are the attempts to excuse it.

[Behind the Aegis]

63. Or the jingle jangle of keys...

..."Hey everyone! Look over there!"

Never fails though.