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George II

(67,782 posts)
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:53 PM Jun 2016

OBAMA ENDORSES HILLARY CLINTON!

Source: Huffington Post

President Barack Obama has endorsed presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton for president, signaling he will fight to ensure that she succeeds him in the White House.

Obama gave his endorsement via a video on Thursday:



Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/obama-endorses-clinton_us_57561095e4b0ca5c7b4fe067



More at the link!
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OBAMA ENDORSES HILLARY CLINTON! (Original Post) George II Jun 2016 OP
msnbc is playing a vid of obama endorsing her but... getagrip_already Jun 2016 #1
Yes, they cut it because of the dual audio track. They have shown a tweet...things happening fast. George II Jun 2016 #3
Hillary should chose Joe Sestak from Penn for VP: He was naval lewebley3 Jun 2016 #9
Joe Sestak's last stand against the Democratic Party Washington Democrats are spending big to defeat AntiBank Jun 2016 #18
This is a historic moment, please post stuff like that in your own OP, thanks. George II Jun 2016 #26
^^^^^THIS still_one Jun 2016 #41
no AntiBank Jun 2016 #55
what the hell are you talking about? I was replying to someone suggesting Sestak for Clinton's VP AntiBank Jun 2016 #53
Sestak: Could step in and lead if needed: that is what counts: lewebley3 Jun 2016 #48
I would not be upset if she picked him, but he is hated AntiBank Jun 2016 #57
Sanders is ultra establishment : Hillary is a leader lewebley3 Jun 2016 #60
LOLOL, not only did you completely miss my point on Sestak but your "Sanders is ultra establishment" AntiBank Jun 2016 #63
Sanders is has had 30 years in congress: he is def of establishment lewebley3 Jun 2016 #80
That is utter rubbish, he is so contrarian to the systemic power structure's core positions on AntiBank Jun 2016 #89
And I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell. GoneOffShore Jun 2016 #88
Hillary should win the nomination if she is able OwlinAZ Jun 2016 #46
Excellent leftynyc Jun 2016 #2
YAY Love you PRESIDENT OBAMA! Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 #4
This is going to be a great day. Warren and Biden speaking tonight, and POTUS in the fray. nolabear Jun 2016 #5
as opposed to the un-Democratic it has been? nt phazed0 Jun 2016 #74
Of course not. I'm just celebrating. Everything isn't a fight, child. nolabear Jun 2016 #75
Says, the person that is name-calling... maybe I should report, nah... phazed0 Jun 2016 #85
Name-calling? nolabear Jun 2016 #93
You called me a 'Child', directly... phazed0 Jun 2016 #100
Child in that sense is a term of endearment. My mom uses it all the time ashtonelijah Jun 2016 #105
LOL, you responded while i was typing up much the same thing. Eom Amimnoch Jun 2016 #107
He's "nola", i'm pretty sure it's cultural more than an intended insult. Amimnoch Jun 2016 #106
He's a she but otherwise you're spot on. nolabear Jun 2016 #112
My sincere apologies. The "bear" threw me. :) Amimnoch Jun 2016 #113
I used to do wildlife rehab and was slap in love with them. nolabear Jun 2016 #115
Makes perfect sense. Amimnoch Jun 2016 #118
I'm actually writing about those bears. nolabear Jun 2016 #120
Ah! Makes sense. I live in Mississippi, an hour and a half from NOLA. ashtonelijah Jun 2016 #137
Hah! It's a Southern idiom and if you knew me you'd know a couple of things. nolabear Jun 2016 #111
No need to cool off, this Bernie supporter didn't report anything or abuse the jury... phazed0 Jun 2016 #116
... nolabear Jun 2016 #119
Picayune concerns? ;) I've always said that town was perfectly named. ashtonelijah Jun 2016 #138
Wonderful word, isn't it? I miss the old NO Times-Picayune paper. nolabear Jun 2016 #140
MSNBC just showed the video - it's great. Three words he said: "I'm with her!!!" George II Jun 2016 #6
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sheshe2 Jun 2016 #77
Yes! mcar Jun 2016 #7
Here's the video: George II Jun 2016 #8
Observation: this was clearly shot before his meeting with Bernie... brooklynite Jun 2016 #20
They're speculating it was made on Tuesday (he was wearing that tie at an appearance!) George II Jun 2016 #21
That meeting was all about Obama telling Sanders that his campaign was over. MADem Jun 2016 #142
I never thought the party elites Geronimoe Jun 2016 #10
What's your agenda, mate? I've seen you post flamebait in two threads... n/t Stand and Fight Jun 2016 #12
I'm not very confident you're aware of the meaning of the words "never", "thought", or "elites." LanternWaste Jun 2016 #15
the party elites are the establishment OwlinAZ Jun 2016 #47
What Will Many Bernie Sanders Voters Do After July? SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #99
So GOOD, one of his best. Pitch perfect, another political masterpiece. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #11
Yay! Now I can hit the fast forward to November. sofa king Jun 2016 #13
Mahalo George! President Obama has some surprises of his own! Cha Jun 2016 #14
Hey, Cha leftynyc Jun 2016 #17
Hey Aloha, leftynyc! Yes, So Much Successs! Cha Jun 2016 #22
One has to wonder, did Sanders know when he gave his "press conference" an hour ago or so? And... George II Jun 2016 #19
I don't think he did know.. because I read he thanked the Pres & VP for Cha Jun 2016 #24
As a Bernie supporter I have to say that Obama waited till Hillary had won a majority of Pledged.. awake Jun 2016 #30
That's kind of you, awake! Cha Jun 2016 #38
Also a Bernie supporter. I agree 100% democrattotheend Jun 2016 #126
I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall in that meeting! Native Jun 2016 #71
Well, I read that the President had told Hillary he was going to endorse her on Cha Jun 2016 #73
I just finished listening to Bernie's speech upon leaving the White House Native Jun 2016 #81
Well thank you for that, Native. Bottom Line.. Hillary Won California.. The Voters spoke Cha Jun 2016 #82
No he can't! But what you wanna bet he never endorses her? Native Jun 2016 #87
Oh, I'm right there with you on that.. everyone is bending over backwards to Cha Jun 2016 #90
Saw that! Looking forward to hearing Warren and Biden's endorsements tonight @ 7:30! Native Jun 2016 #95
You and I seem to be thinking exactly the same BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #114
I would rather have been a fly on the conversation between Bill Clinton for 2 hours with Trump classykaren Jun 2016 #128
I would expect that Obama told him. bklyncowgirl Jun 2016 #35
Yes, he did democrattotheend Jun 2016 #125
Awaiting the TeaBag head 'plosions 47of74 Jun 2016 #16
NICE! :) sarae Jun 2016 #23
Fabulous!!! DCBob Jun 2016 #25
A president we are proud of Politicub Jun 2016 #27
+100 narnian60 Jun 2016 #72
Excellent still_one Jun 2016 #28
THANK YOU Mr. PRESIDENT! BootinUp Jun 2016 #29
Excellent statement by our president! herding cats Jun 2016 #31
Excellent Endorsement by the President. Please post the video in your OP, everyone should watch it. Sunlei Jun 2016 #32
Done, thanks for the reminder. George II Jun 2016 #33
k & r lovemydog Jun 2016 #34
K & R greatlaurel Jun 2016 #36
Thank you President Obama! UtahLib Jun 2016 #37
The game is on. SpankMe Jun 2016 #39
'The actual issues are secondary.' Volaris Jun 2016 #52
Because TOGETHER we are STRONGER!!!! hamsterjill Jun 2016 #40
I wonder who he voted for in the Illinois Primary... brooklynite Jun 2016 #42
Hah! And who he'll vote for next month as THE superdelgate? George II Jun 2016 #43
Another great day for our country! Walk away Jun 2016 #44
I love our president! NastyRiffraff Jun 2016 #45
K&R postatomic Jun 2016 #49
Thank you, President Obama gademocrat7 Jun 2016 #50
very sad grasswire Jun 2016 #51
The president endorsed the Democratic winner of the primaries. Beacool Jun 2016 #61
she hasn't won yet. grasswire Jun 2016 #67
Please, Grasswire, face reality. Beacool Jun 2016 #68
absolutely not. grasswire Jun 2016 #70
So the millions more Democrats who chose Hillary Clinton can fuck off? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #92
what do you mean? grasswire Jun 2016 #94
When you are part of a political party, members of that party are allowed to vote.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #96
Yes, she has democrattotheend Jun 2016 #127
They need to hurry, believe me every minute counts SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #130
lolz obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #62
well stupidicus Jun 2016 #66
I'm sure Obama would be disappointed in you too CreekDog Jun 2016 #122
YOU NEVER REALLY LOVED HER!!! obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #123
It's kind of a fling for me CreekDog Jun 2016 #124
K&R! stonecutter357 Jun 2016 #54
Thank you, Mr. President!!! Beacool Jun 2016 #56
BOO YAH! obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #58
GREAT VIDEO!11!!!!1! wildeyed Jun 2016 #59
He hired her. Of course she's his choice. nt onehandle Jun 2016 #64
Really wish President Obama TeddyR Jun 2016 #65
Does President Obama know Hillary is anti-TPP? gordianot Jun 2016 #69
Hillary is "anti-TPP" only as long as that stance is politically useful. nt AntiBank Jun 2016 #78
YOU NEVER REALLY LOVED HER!!! obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #110
They've probably been holding on to this video for months. craigmatic Jun 2016 #76
Drop the Mic! sheshe2 Jun 2016 #79
Not to rain on the parade, but isn't it normal to have the endorsement done in oerson ? Angel Martin Jun 2016 #83
I think... MrWendel Jun 2016 #86
It's a whole new age. George II Jun 2016 #98
K&R ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #84
Well, that was 'tepid'. GoneOffShore Jun 2016 #91
Wrong, and wrong. Look at how everyone else interpreted the announcement, and research.... George II Jun 2016 #97
I read 'tells' all the time and I saw Pres Obama 'phoning it in'. GoneOffShore Jun 2016 #132
He seemed that way to me rury Jun 2016 #135
Maybe you're off your "game". (n/t) OilemFirchen Jun 2016 #147
Nope - He was definitely phoning it in. GoneOffShore Jun 2016 #149
What ARE you smoking? BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #117
Little to do with sour grapes - GoneOffShore Jun 2016 #133
well it does make him the first POTUS to endorse someone under criminal... grasswire Jun 2016 #131
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #152
"I don’t think there’s ever been someone so qualified to hold this office," lunamagica Jun 2016 #101
And he was including himself in that sweeping statement! George II Jun 2016 #102
i KNOW! aMAZING, ISN'T IT! lunamagica Jun 2016 #103
Way more, way more! SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #136
Well, Whoopity Shit! SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #139
Kick! sheshe2 Jun 2016 #104
WooHoo! missingthebigdog Jun 2016 #108
Oh yeah!!! Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #109
Thank you, Mr. President! BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #121
As long as they don't push the TPP while campaigning. GoneOffShore Jun 2016 #134
K&R reACTIONary Jun 2016 #129
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #141
Kickity kickity nt lillypaddle Jun 2016 #143
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Jun 2016 #144
K&R betsuni Jun 2016 #145
What are endorsements, when you think about it? Helen Borg Jun 2016 #146
Everybody is pretending.. coco77 Jun 2016 #148
OBAMA ENDORSES HILLARY CLINTON! AlbertCat Jun 2016 #150
That was a great endorsement Gothmog Jun 2016 #151
Now is the time for unity, together we beat Trump. Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #153

getagrip_already

(14,646 posts)
1. msnbc is playing a vid of obama endorsing her but...
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:55 PM
Jun 2016

it had two audio feeds so you couldn't hear it clearly.

 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
9. Hillary should chose Joe Sestak from Penn for VP: He was naval
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 02:08 PM
Jun 2016

commander of Ship and a loyal Dem: and we wouldn't have to pluck any
one from the Senate: I think he is perfect!

 

AntiBank

(1,339 posts)
18. Joe Sestak's last stand against the Democratic Party Washington Democrats are spending big to defeat
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 02:17 PM
Jun 2016

one of their own in a must-win Pennsylvania Senate race.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/sestak-pa-primary-221644#ixzz4B6irBoEe


There’s no ideological civil war underway here. No, this is all personal — just former Navy Adm. Joe Sestak making his last stand against Democratic Party leaders who’ve been trying to sink him for six years and counting.
On paper, Sestak is about everything Democrats could want in a Senate candidate: a charismatic, decorated veteran elected to the House from a swing district who nearly defeated Republican Pat Toomey in 2010, one of the toughest election years for Democrats in decades.

But the independent streak that attracts voters is precisely what worries national Democrats so much about Sestak: They believe, for the second time since 2010, that he could blow a winnable Senate race because of his tendency to reject the slightest hint of marching orders from party bosses. Sestak is the first to admit he likes doing things his way, and party leaders quickly tired of constantly being told, in so many words, to take a hike.

In response, the whole D.C. Democratic gang is all-in for Sestak’s main Democratic rival, Katie McGinty — from Barack Obama and Joe Biden to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee and Sen. Bob Casey (D-Pa.). More than that, the national party is dropping more than $1 million to push McGinty past Sestak — a rare move by Democrats in a Senate primary that reflects their level of disdain for him.

Indeed, the infighting here threatens to do significant harm to Democrats’ hopes in the general election in Pennsylvania, a state that’s essentially a must-win for the party’s hopes of wresting the Senate from Republicans.

snip

 

AntiBank

(1,339 posts)
53. what the hell are you talking about? I was replying to someone suggesting Sestak for Clinton's VP
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 03:15 PM
Jun 2016

He was run out by a power play of the Democratic Party's biggest guns, thus I don't think Hillary would select him.

Stop trying to bully people what they can and cannot talk about.

 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
48. Sestak: Could step in and lead if needed: that is what counts:
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 03:02 PM
Jun 2016

He also could help with national security

 

AntiBank

(1,339 posts)
57. I would not be upset if she picked him, but he is hated
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 03:22 PM
Jun 2016

by exactly what Clinton is, the ultra insider establishment.

 

AntiBank

(1,339 posts)
63. LOLOL, not only did you completely miss my point on Sestak but your "Sanders is ultra establishment"
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 03:28 PM
Jun 2016

is truly ridiculous. It borders on a complete detachment from reality.

 

AntiBank

(1,339 posts)
89. That is utter rubbish, he is so contrarian to the systemic power structure's core positions on
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 04:40 PM
Jun 2016

banking/Wall Street abuse/criminal action, war, universal health care, taxes, non-tuitioned tertiary education, etc etc.


Everything that he posits as his stance on those issues, Clinton and the establishment are on the opposite side.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
2. Excellent
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:55 PM
Jun 2016

He's been chomping at the bit to start campaigning. He, Michelle, Joe and Jill. This is awesome.

nolabear

(41,936 posts)
5. This is going to be a great day. Warren and Biden speaking tonight, and POTUS in the fray.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 02:02 PM
Jun 2016

It's going to get DEMOCRATIC up in here!

 

phazed0

(745 posts)
85. Says, the person that is name-calling... maybe I should report, nah...
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 04:32 PM
Jun 2016

I'm not an ass hole.

I would contend that this entire race has been undemocratic, though.. Not sure how you plan to win people over with your thin skin.

 

phazed0

(745 posts)
100. You called me a 'Child', directly...
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 05:28 PM
Jun 2016

Of which I have been Jury hidden for almost a similar 'name-calling' of benign nature by a Hill supporter - that really just wanted my post hidden.. Not to mention that your responding post was IMO pretty snide and condescending. Here's the new rules, in case you missed them. I have been handily told by many on the Hill side I need to see it, so it seems only fair that I give the same courtesy back: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10135833

Hillary desperately needs the support of the independents and Bernie supporters, do you think that you are helping there or hurting?

Don't forget that more than half of the voters think that this Primary was abhorrent and skewed un-Democratically of which there is ample evidence of, though perhaps, not what would be considered fact, here.

So when you say, "It's going to get DEMOCRATIC up in here!" - you infer that it has not been Democratic, until this point. I was simply injecting my views and still worry about our political system and am soured by the whole ordeal... Like I have been since 2001, like this board has reflected for all these years regarding 'rigged' elections. I'm happy that people are happy Hillary is the nominee, but let's not lose sight of our political system in exchange for a politician with a shelf life.

I can put on a fake happy face for Hillary and go "yay." but it still does nothing for my faith in our electoral system or the path of which it continues to careen.

ashtonelijah

(340 posts)
105. Child in that sense is a term of endearment. My mom uses it all the time
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 05:46 PM
Jun 2016

Nothing akin to call someone "childish." It's akin to "dear" or "sweetie." If you are that on edge, I'd suggest taking a few days off of DU to cool off.

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
106. He's "nola", i'm pretty sure it's cultural more than an intended insult.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 05:47 PM
Jun 2016

Nolabear is from New Orleans Louisiana (NOLA).

Tagging child at the end of a comment isn't meant to be an insult, derogatory or condescending in that area of the country (from Breaux Bridge, LA originally myself).

It really is very common, and not at all vulgar there. Sometimes it's "honey child" as well.

Used as sort of a synonym of "dear' as in, You want to come with me to the market dear?

It's possible I'm incorrect in the interp, but coming from that same region, i honestly don't believe there was any malice intended.

nolabear

(41,936 posts)
115. I used to do wildlife rehab and was slap in love with them.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 06:26 PM
Jun 2016

And I grew up around and in NO. Seems to have stuck. No apologies necessary. Fine day, isn't it?

nolabear

(41,936 posts)
120. I'm actually writing about those bears.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 06:37 PM
Jun 2016

A fictitious gay veterans' motorcycle club figures just a little in a novel.

nolabear

(41,936 posts)
111. Hah! It's a Southern idiom and if you knew me you'd know a couple of things.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 06:17 PM
Jun 2016

One, I use them. It's my way and I like it. No offense meant. Two, I love a celebration. And c., I am in a very good mood and have no desire to have a conniption over picayune concerns. And 5(b), See above. C'mon, p'tit, let's not fight.

I can go on...

 

phazed0

(745 posts)
116. No need to cool off, this Bernie supporter didn't report anything or abuse the jury...
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 06:28 PM
Jun 2016

just making light of the fact that there seems to be a double standard around here for "simple" name calling... after I had a reasonable, well thought out political post (decidedly anti-Hillary, but factual) hidden by a Jury of obvious Bernie-haters for calling someone something similar in nature (of an East-Coast idiom). Jury payed no mind to the substance of the post or the context in which the 'name' was referenced.

When you precede 'Child' with the sentence "Everything isn't a fight", I took at as an inference to being childish.

No worries.

Moving along!

nolabear

(41,936 posts)
140. Wonderful word, isn't it? I miss the old NO Times-Picayune paper.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 10:26 PM
Jun 2016

It got bought out by a NYC firm and just destroyed.

sheshe2

(83,655 posts)
77. Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 04:04 PM
Jun 2016

Love our President.



Thanks so much for the news, George. This makes for a perfect day!

brooklynite

(94,363 posts)
20. Observation: this was clearly shot before his meeting with Bernie...
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 02:18 PM
Jun 2016

...either here in NYC yesterday or on Tuesday in the White House.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
142. That meeting was all about Obama telling Sanders that his campaign was over.
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 02:31 AM
Jun 2016
Thanks very much, but enough already. I'll give you an opportunity to go out on the lawn and say some nice unifying words, but this is the end of the line--your campaign is over, Bernie, and that's that.

He didn't end it himself, so Obama ended it for him!

And then Elizabeth Warren and Joe Biden iced the cake.
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
15. I'm not very confident you're aware of the meaning of the words "never", "thought", or "elites."
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 02:15 PM
Jun 2016

I'm not very confident you're aware of the meaning of the words "never", "thought", "elites", or "back."

 

SouthernDemLinda

(182 posts)
99. What Will Many Bernie Sanders Voters Do After July?
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 05:25 PM
Jun 2016
http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/03/05/what-will-many-bernie-sanders-voters-do-after-julyThe hard-

Common Dreams
Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community

Published on

Saturday, March 05, 2016
by Common Dreams

What Will Many Bernie Sanders Voters Do After July?

by Ralph Nader

The hard-bitten, corporatist Democrats are moving Hillary Clinton through the presidential primaries. They are using “Republican-speak” to beat down Bernie Sanders as favoring Big Government and more taxes and they may unwittingly be setting the stage for a serious split in the Democratic Party.

What is emerging is the reaction of millions of Sanders supporters who will feel repudiated, not just left behind, as the Clintonites plan to celebrate at the Democratic Convention in July. The political experience gained by the Sanders workers, many of them young, helped Sanders register primary victories over Hillary in Colorado, Oklahoma, Minnesota, Vermont and New Hampshire with their energy and votes. They came close in Nevada and Massachusetts and probably won in Iowa.

Hillary’s rhetoric has outraged Sanders’ supporters. She berates Sanders regularly for not being practical or realistic about his Medicare-for-all, breaking up big banks, a $15 minimum wage, a tax on Wall Street speculation and carbon and getting big money out of politics. Clinton’s putdowns exemplify why so many people who back Sanders want to defeat her. Clinton is the candidate of the status quo, favored over all other candidates from both parties by the Wall Street crowd and quietly adored by the military-industrial complex who see Generalissima Clinton as a militarist who would maintain the warfare state.

Democrat Robert Reich, former Secretary of Labor under Bill Clinton, derided this “We Shouldn’t Even Try” attitude common among many frightened Democrats. These are, in Reich’s words, “the establishment Democrats – Washington lobbyists, editorial writers, inside-the-Beltway operatives, party leaders and big contributors who have grown comfortable with the way things are.” These hereditary Democrat opinion-shapers tell their audiences that Hillary personifies experience and electability. They argue it is either Clinton or Trump or some other crazed Republican.

Here we go again. Every four years, the Democratic leaders define the Democratic candidate by how bad the Republicans are. This is designed to panic and mute their followers. Every four years, both parties become more corporatist. Sanders’ voters want to define the Democratic Party by how good it can be for the people. And these Sanders voters may not go back into the Democratic Party fold.

Low turnout for the Democratic Party’s primaries is being compared to a much higher Republican voter turnout for their candidates. Low turnout in November would dim Hillary’s chances in an electoral college, winner-take-all system.

Such Democratic Party misfortune can become more likely should Bernie endorse Hillary at the Democratic Convention without any conditions or her acceptance of his agenda, assuming she is the nominee. Last year he declared that he would endorse “the Democratic nominee.” Certainly, all the Democratic politicos in the Congress who endorsed Hillary set no conditions. The large labor unions that went with Hillary are known for giving their endorsements without receiving any benefits for workers. So, Hillary would have no mandate should she win the election. And you know that Clintons without mandates tend to bend toward Wall Street and rampant militarism.

It is doubtful whether Hillary will credibly adopt any of Bernie’s agenda, considering where her campaign money is coming from and how unwilling she is to alienate her circle of advisors.

Where does this leave the Sanders people who see Hillary as experienced in waging wars, qualified as an entrenched pol, and realistic to suit the plutocracy’s tastes, and not really getting much of anything progressive done (alluding to the ways she has described herself)?

The energetic Sanders supporters, including the Millennials who voted so heavily for Bernie, could form a New Progressive movement to exercise a policy pull on the establishment Democrats before November and to be a growing magnet after November with the objective of taking over the
Democratic Party starting with winning local elections. This will have long-term benefits for our country.

To those who point to history throwing water on such a potential breakout, I tell them to look at the 2016 presidential primaries. All bets are off when political debates become big media business with huge ratings, and when a gambling czar and builder of expensive real estate, Donald Trump (a hybrid Rep/Dem), is overturning all the old homilies about presidential politics, and is in a primary contest with two freshmen Senators whose vacuous ambitions are their only achievements.
 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
11. So GOOD, one of his best. Pitch perfect, another political masterpiece.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 02:12 PM
Jun 2016

How I LOVE this man and this President.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
13. Yay! Now I can hit the fast forward to November.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 02:13 PM
Jun 2016

It's in the bag. Nothing to worry about; nothing weird is gonna happen in this election, nope. A cake walk.

Not nervous at all, nope.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
17. Hey, Cha
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 02:16 PM
Jun 2016

Great to see you!!! What a wonderful week this is turning into!!! I'm getting so excited.

George II

(67,782 posts)
19. One has to wonder, did Sanders know when he gave his "press conference" an hour ago or so? And...
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 02:18 PM
Jun 2016

...they're saying that video was made on Tuesday.

Wonderful day for Democrats and for The United States.

Cha

(296,868 posts)
24. I don't think he did know.. because I read he thanked the Pres & VP for
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 02:21 PM
Jun 2016

"NOT putting their fingers on the scale" which pissed me off.. and Obama just did!

awake

(3,226 posts)
30. As a Bernie supporter I have to say that Obama waited till Hillary had won a majority of Pledged..
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 02:35 PM
Jun 2016

..Delegates before endorsing her, no need to throw Obama under the bus.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
126. Also a Bernie supporter. I agree 100%
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 07:00 PM
Jun 2016

As a former DC voter, I wish the President had waited 5 more days to give DC voters their due, but he waited until she had a majority of the pledged delegates, so I can't complain too much. Bernie himself said the president was very fair to him.

Native

(5,936 posts)
71. I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall in that meeting!
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 03:51 PM
Jun 2016

If Bernie got that impression, and Obama turned right around and put all ten fingers on the scale, that tells me either Bernie sees things only in the way he wants to see them or Obama was none too pleased with what Bernie had to say and realized nothing he could say would change Bernie's mind, so he simply didn't press his case, and Bernie just assumed what he wanted to assume. Very smooth!

Cha

(296,868 posts)
73. Well, I read that the President had told Hillary he was going to endorse her on
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 03:58 PM
Jun 2016

Thursday so she knew it was coming.

I don't know what he told sanders but it was an odd thing for him to say about the "finger on the scale" if he did know.

And, yes The President took the day with his brilliant endorsement of Hillary!

Hillary's Tweet!

Hillary Clinton
✔ ?@HillaryClinton
Honored to have you with me, @POTUS. I'm fired up and ready to go! -H
7:56 AM - 9 Jun 2016
6,288 6,288 Retweets 13,303 13,303 likes

https://theobamadiary.com/2016/06/09/chat-away-833/#comments

Native

(5,936 posts)
81. I just finished listening to Bernie's speech upon leaving the White House
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 04:13 PM
Jun 2016

the thumb on the scale reference was as to how much he appreciates that Obama and Biden said in the beginning they were going to remain impartial during the process, so it could be interpreted as an "up to this point in time" kind of reference. He then, in this order, talked about the issues he would be taking to the convention, dissed Trump, said he would work to make sure that Trump did not become president, will compete in the D.C. Primary and is in favor of D.C. statehood, is looking forward to a full count of the votes in California and believes the results will show he came in much closer, he spoke with Hillary on Tuesday and congratulated her on a strong campaign, and he will be meeting with her in the future to determine how they can both work together to defeat Trump. That was it in a nutshell.

Cha

(296,868 posts)
82. Well thank you for that, Native. Bottom Line.. Hillary Won California.. The Voters spoke
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 04:17 PM
Jun 2016

and they want her.

She has more votes and more delegates and he can't take that away from her.

Native

(5,936 posts)
87. No he can't! But what you wanna bet he never endorses her?
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 04:38 PM
Jun 2016

in his speech he very carefully says he will work with (not for) Clinton to make sure Trump does not get elected. He says nothing about making sure that Hillary is elected. I just can't see him ever admitting he really lost when he has been saying the system is rigged since day 1. I hope I'm wrong, but I just don't see him ever coming fully around.

Cha

(296,868 posts)
90. Oh, I'm right there with you on that.. everyone is bending over backwards to
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 04:43 PM
Jun 2016

be so nice to him.. and he's not ever going to endorse her.

We'll win without that, of course.. She just got Martin O'Malley's Strong Endorsement.

Native

(5,936 posts)
95. Saw that! Looking forward to hearing Warren and Biden's endorsements tonight @ 7:30!
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 04:51 PM
Jun 2016

It was cracking me up to see how many Bernie supporters were like, who is O'Malley?

BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
114. You and I seem to be thinking exactly the same
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 06:24 PM
Jun 2016

thing about this: "... either Bernie sees things only in the way he wants to see them or Obama was none too pleased with what Bernie had to say and realized nothing he could say would change Bernie's mind, so he simply didn't press his case, and Bernie just assumed what he wanted to assume."

From the way that Bernie just went ahead and did what he had likely planned to do all along with his grandstand request to see the Prez, i.e., gave a speech with the WH as a backdrop to get some free publicity for next week's primary in DC, I believe that is pretty much what happened.

Bernie really seems to be tone-deaf with people skills in just about every single way.

I'm happy that he did get his few minutes in front of the WH, but I very much doubt that he swayed even a single DC Dem voter.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
125. Yes, he did
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 06:58 PM
Jun 2016

I believe he knew since Sunday, and asked the president to hold off until they met on Thursday.

I am very certain that Obama would have informed him during their meeting if he did not already know.

He may not have known the exact timing, but he knew it was coming.

As Bernie himself said, the president was very fair to him.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
27. A president we are proud of
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 02:26 PM
Jun 2016

And a rock star on the global stage.

The GOP still hasn't let shrub leave the ranch. What a contrast.

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
39. The game is on.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 02:44 PM
Jun 2016

Let's get moving. Trump's an asshole for whom assholes will be voting - en masse.

It's all about getting out the vote, now. The actual issues are secondary.

Volaris

(10,266 posts)
52. 'The actual issues are secondary.'
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 03:13 PM
Jun 2016

Ain't this the sad Truth, and what some here have been trying very very hard to tell us needs to change. That having been said,

Game On Trumps about to get his ass handed to him. Go Team! (?)..

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
61. The president endorsed the Democratic winner of the primaries.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 03:25 PM
Jun 2016

Who did you think he was going to endorse, the person who lost the nomination???

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
67. she hasn't won yet.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 03:39 PM
Jun 2016

I thought he would wait until the voting is finished, at least. Five million votes are yet uncounted in California. D.C. has yet to vote.

It's a matter of propriety and courtesy.

Unseemly for him to look as if he is joining the race to beat the FBI's timing.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
68. Please, Grasswire, face reality.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 03:43 PM
Jun 2016

For all intents and purposes, Sanders lost in April after the NY primary when her pledged delegate lead became insurmountable. Even if he had won the last six states, he still wouldn't have been able to surpass Hillary in pledged delegates.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
70. absolutely not.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 03:49 PM
Jun 2016

You are asking me to abandon my core values to support values that are anathema to me as a proud progressive Democrat all my life.

I will not give license to your Third Way. The world is new. And it is not mine, nor yours. It belongs to the millions of young people who see hope, who see a better America in social democracy.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
94. what do you mean?
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 04:50 PM
Jun 2016

They are on their own, in the opinion of millions of Democrats who voted for Bernie. We have been continually disrespected, beaten up, despised for our insistence on traditional core Democratic values.

You can't expect us to surrender our core values in order to bail out someone who stands for something totally anathema to us. We are not going to give license to Third Way/DNC politics of the past by bailing her out.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
96. When you are part of a political party, members of that party are allowed to vote....
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 04:59 PM
Jun 2016

....for the candidate of their choosing. The candidate who gets the most votes gets to move on. You are basically saying you don't think that should happen, and want to erase what the voters decided.

If you don't like it, you can leave the party and support Stein, or Johnson or whatever other candidate who thinks they're better than us wants to push. I just hope you enjoy their party members better and maybe they'll fall 100% in line with you at all times so you can coexist.

I will vote for whomever the nominee of the Democratic party is.

I respect the will of my fellow Democrats.

Period.

End of story.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
127. Yes, she has
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 07:02 PM
Jun 2016

Even if Bernie were to get every one of the outstanding votes in California and every vote in DC (highly unlikely), I believe she would still be ahead in votes and pledged delegates. Am I wrong about that?

I too wish the president had waited until next Wednesday out of respect for DC voters, but I understand why he is eager to get out on the campaign trail and start helping. He had planned to start in April and held back all this time out of respect to Bernie and to people like us, who supported him in 2008 and now support Bernie.

 

SouthernDemLinda

(182 posts)
130. They need to hurry, believe me every minute counts
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 07:49 PM
Jun 2016

Excerpt From:

Aljazeera.com?

Al Jazeera

Marwan Bishara is the senior political analyst at Al Jazeera.

"I rushed to finish Hillary Clinton's book, Hard Choices, this week, expecting her to clinch the Democratic Party nomination for president. She did, but I am evermore ambivalent about her and her chances of winning.

Many factors will prove decisive in the November elections, but Clinton continues to suffer from the same shortcomings that cost her the 2008 Democratic Party primaries.

This is particularly important because in the public mind, the contrast can't be starker between the same packaged Clinton and the unrestrained Republican nominee Donald Trump. She won the Democratic nomination by mastering the rules of the game; he won the Republican nomination by refusing to play by the traditional rules of the game.

But come November, Clinton could still lose the general elections even though she’s running against a populist candidate with "no policy knowledge or workable proposals", who managed to alienate so many Latinos, Muslims and African Americans.

Hard Choices is a tough read not because it's a long and exhaustive balance sheet of her tenure as secretary of state, but rather because it is as self-congratulatory as it is self-explanatory.

She boasts of how her diplomatic intervention prevented "explosive confrontation"; how the team Obama-Clinton was seen as a "diplomatic version of the TV thriller, Starsky and Hutch"; and how she succeeded in lobbying for General Electric to gain multibillion-dollar contracts in Algeria. But there's little or no serious admission of fault and failure and of lessons learned, and certainly no bold vision for America in the world.

Since it was written with the intention of running again for president - clearly, not a "hard choice" - it's the kind of book that reveals less than it conceals; peddles instead of explaining. It confirms many of the doubts about Clinton's authenticity.

Like her book, Clinton's campaign also projects an image of a scripted and packaged candidacy that contrasts sharply with her Republican opponent.

Despite his ignorance, Donald Trump has been able to communicate freely, effectively and spontaneously with his base.

The contrast in their visions for America could not be any sharper, as this Washington Post graphic shows, but it mirrors America's own down-the-middle societal and political division.

What will tip the balance to either side is the contrast between their characters.

Likeability and trust

The Democratic Party primaries have exposed Clinton's failure to inspire or gain the trust of important segments of the voters, especially the young.

According to The New York Times: "Many in this newest generation of American voters say that they don’t trust her, or that she represents a Washington disconnected from their struggles."

In order to overcome this deep-seated suspicion about her character, the Clinton-friendly newspaper recommends that Hillary release transcripts of her Wall Street speeches and acknowledge the State Department inspector's general claim: that using a private email server for official business was not allowed or encouraged, but she did it anyway, in a misguided effort to protect her privacy.

This might help Clinton regain some credibility among her detractors, Democrats and Independents. But it won't suffice to change her image."

Just sit back and relax......

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
66. well
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 03:37 PM
Jun 2016
https://consortiumnews.com/2016/06/08/democrats-are-now-the-aggressive-war-party/

that's something to build upon, and you can see how proud her supporters are of it, no?

We elected him to end the war in Iraq, and got what, a mess there and war in about 6-7 other places?

Just imagine the improvements she can make...

sheshe2

(83,655 posts)
79. Drop the Mic!
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 04:10 PM
Jun 2016

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GoneOffShore

(17,337 posts)
91. Well, that was 'tepid'.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 04:45 PM
Jun 2016

I know that the President is always a 'cool' read, but that was exceptionally chill.

Looks like he wanted to do that about as much as he wanted to give her the SoS job.

George II

(67,782 posts)
97. Wrong, and wrong. Look at how everyone else interpreted the announcement, and research....
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 05:20 PM
Jun 2016

....the Obama/Clinton relationship over the last 8 years.

rury

(1,021 posts)
135. He seemed that way to me
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 09:54 PM
Jun 2016

too, GoneOffShore. Like he was "phoning it in."
Kind of tepid, just like I am toward Hillary. I think the Democratic Party could have done much better and nominated somebody other than a 90s Third Way DLC retread.
🙁😡👎🏾💤🙄 Sums up my attitude toward Hilary.

GoneOffShore

(17,337 posts)
133. Little to do with sour grapes -
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 09:07 PM
Jun 2016

It's the way I saw it.

He looked like a man that was having a beer with someone he wanted to get away from.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
131. well it does make him the first POTUS to endorse someone under criminal...
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 08:00 PM
Jun 2016

....investigation by his own Justice Department.

Response to GoneOffShore (Reply #91)

 

SouthernDemLinda

(182 posts)
136. Way more, way more!
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 10:05 PM
Jun 2016
"I don’t think there’s ever been someone so qualified to hold this office,"


Yeah sure,

Way more than Presidents Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy. Who created their own money system to run the United States while they were in office.

The Bankers knew that the only thing that is a threat to their power is sovereign governments printing interest-free and debt-free paper money. They knew it would break the power of the international Bankers.
 

SouthernDemLinda

(182 posts)
139. Well, Whoopity Shit!
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 10:20 PM
Jun 2016

"I don’t think there’s ever been someone so qualified to hold this office,"

Yeah sure,

Way more than Presidents Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy.

Both of these former presidents had also created their own money system to run the United States while they were in office.

The Bankers knew that the only thing that is a threat to their power is sovereign govern­ments printing interest-free and debt-free paper money.

They knew it would break the power of the international Bankers.

BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
121. Thank you, Mr. President!
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 06:38 PM
Jun 2016

Prez O's been champing at the bit to do this for awhile now. Those two will ROCK together in the GE campaign!



GoneOffShore

(17,337 posts)
134. As long as they don't push the TPP while campaigning.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 09:09 PM
Jun 2016

That will definitely be a cause for alarm and a way to lose the GE.

Response to George II (Original post)

Helen Borg

(3,963 posts)
146. What are endorsements, when you think about it?
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 08:13 AM
Jun 2016

They are just polite ways of the "adults" to tell the "children" they cannot think on their own.

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