OBAMA ENDORSES HILLARY CLINTON!
Source: Huffington Post
President Barack Obama has endorsed presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton for president, signaling he will fight to ensure that she succeeds him in the White House.
Obama gave his endorsement via a video on Thursday:
Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/obama-endorses-clinton_us_57561095e4b0ca5c7b4fe067
More at the link!
getagrip_already
(14,646 posts)it had two audio feeds so you couldn't hear it clearly.
George II
(67,782 posts)lewebley3
(3,412 posts)commander of Ship and a loyal Dem: and we wouldn't have to pluck any
one from the Senate: I think he is perfect!
AntiBank
(1,339 posts)one of their own in a must-win Pennsylvania Senate race.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/sestak-pa-primary-221644#ixzz4B6irBoEe
Theres no ideological civil war underway here. No, this is all personal just former Navy Adm. Joe Sestak making his last stand against Democratic Party leaders whove been trying to sink him for six years and counting.
On paper, Sestak is about everything Democrats could want in a Senate candidate: a charismatic, decorated veteran elected to the House from a swing district who nearly defeated Republican Pat Toomey in 2010, one of the toughest election years for Democrats in decades.
But the independent streak that attracts voters is precisely what worries national Democrats so much about Sestak: They believe, for the second time since 2010, that he could blow a winnable Senate race because of his tendency to reject the slightest hint of marching orders from party bosses. Sestak is the first to admit he likes doing things his way, and party leaders quickly tired of constantly being told, in so many words, to take a hike.
In response, the whole D.C. Democratic gang is all-in for Sestaks main Democratic rival, Katie McGinty from Barack Obama and Joe Biden to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee and Sen. Bob Casey (D-Pa.). More than that, the national party is dropping more than $1 million to push McGinty past Sestak a rare move by Democrats in a Senate primary that reflects their level of disdain for him.
Indeed, the infighting here threatens to do significant harm to Democrats hopes in the general election in Pennsylvania, a state thats essentially a must-win for the partys hopes of wresting the Senate from Republicans.
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George II
(67,782 posts)still_one
(92,061 posts)AntiBank
(1,339 posts)He was run out by a power play of the Democratic Party's biggest guns, thus I don't think Hillary would select him.
Stop trying to bully people what they can and cannot talk about.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)He also could help with national security
AntiBank
(1,339 posts)by exactly what Clinton is, the ultra insider establishment.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)AntiBank
(1,339 posts)is truly ridiculous. It borders on a complete detachment from reality.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)AntiBank
(1,339 posts)banking/Wall Street abuse/criminal action, war, universal health care, taxes, non-tuitioned tertiary education, etc etc.
Everything that he posits as his stance on those issues, Clinton and the establishment are on the opposite side.
GoneOffShore
(17,337 posts)OwlinAZ
(410 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)He's been chomping at the bit to start campaigning. He, Michelle, Joe and Jill. This is awesome.
Florencenj2point0
(435 posts)Doing my happy dance!
nolabear
(41,936 posts)It's going to get DEMOCRATIC up in here!
phazed0
(745 posts)nolabear
(41,936 posts)phazed0
(745 posts)I'm not an ass hole.
I would contend that this entire race has been undemocratic, though.. Not sure how you plan to win people over with your thin skin.
nolabear
(41,936 posts)phazed0
(745 posts)Of which I have been Jury hidden for almost a similar 'name-calling' of benign nature by a Hill supporter - that really just wanted my post hidden.. Not to mention that your responding post was IMO pretty snide and condescending. Here's the new rules, in case you missed them. I have been handily told by many on the Hill side I need to see it, so it seems only fair that I give the same courtesy back: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10135833
Hillary desperately needs the support of the independents and Bernie supporters, do you think that you are helping there or hurting?
Don't forget that more than half of the voters think that this Primary was abhorrent and skewed un-Democratically of which there is ample evidence of, though perhaps, not what would be considered fact, here.
So when you say, "It's going to get DEMOCRATIC up in here!" - you infer that it has not been Democratic, until this point. I was simply injecting my views and still worry about our political system and am soured by the whole ordeal... Like I have been since 2001, like this board has reflected for all these years regarding 'rigged' elections. I'm happy that people are happy Hillary is the nominee, but let's not lose sight of our political system in exchange for a politician with a shelf life.
I can put on a fake happy face for Hillary and go "yay." but it still does nothing for my faith in our electoral system or the path of which it continues to careen.
ashtonelijah
(340 posts)Nothing akin to call someone "childish." It's akin to "dear" or "sweetie." If you are that on edge, I'd suggest taking a few days off of DU to cool off.
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)Nolabear is from New Orleans Louisiana (NOLA).
Tagging child at the end of a comment isn't meant to be an insult, derogatory or condescending in that area of the country (from Breaux Bridge, LA originally myself).
It really is very common, and not at all vulgar there. Sometimes it's "honey child" as well.
Used as sort of a synonym of "dear' as in, You want to come with me to the market dear?
It's possible I'm incorrect in the interp, but coming from that same region, i honestly don't believe there was any malice intended.
nolabear
(41,936 posts)Thanks, Darlin'.
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)nolabear
(41,936 posts)And I grew up around and in NO. Seems to have stuck. No apologies necessary. Fine day, isn't it?
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)The Nola bears I know are all big furry men
nolabear
(41,936 posts)A fictitious gay veterans' motorcycle club figures just a little in a novel.
ashtonelijah
(340 posts)nolabear
(41,936 posts)One, I use them. It's my way and I like it. No offense meant. Two, I love a celebration. And c., I am in a very good mood and have no desire to have a conniption over picayune concerns. And 5(b), See above. C'mon, p'tit, let's not fight.
I can go on...
phazed0
(745 posts)just making light of the fact that there seems to be a double standard around here for "simple" name calling... after I had a reasonable, well thought out political post (decidedly anti-Hillary, but factual) hidden by a Jury of obvious Bernie-haters for calling someone something similar in nature (of an East-Coast idiom). Jury payed no mind to the substance of the post or the context in which the 'name' was referenced.
When you precede 'Child' with the sentence "Everything isn't a fight", I took at as an inference to being childish.
No worries.
Moving along!
ashtonelijah
(340 posts)nolabear
(41,936 posts)It got bought out by a NYC firm and just destroyed.
George II
(67,782 posts)sheshe2
(83,655 posts)Love our President.
Thanks so much for the news, George. This makes for a perfect day!
George II
(67,782 posts)brooklynite
(94,363 posts)...either here in NYC yesterday or on Tuesday in the White House.
George II
(67,782 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)He didn't end it himself, so Obama ended it for him!
And then Elizabeth Warren and Joe Biden iced the cake.
Geronimoe
(1,539 posts)would back Hillary.
Stand and Fight
(7,480 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I'm not very confident you're aware of the meaning of the words "never", "thought", "elites", or "back."
OwlinAZ
(410 posts)they have always backed clinton
SouthernDemLinda
(182 posts)Common Dreams
Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community
Published on
Saturday, March 05, 2016
by Common Dreams
What Will Many Bernie Sanders Voters Do After July?
by Ralph Nader
The hard-bitten, corporatist Democrats are moving Hillary Clinton through the presidential primaries. They are using Republican-speak to beat down Bernie Sanders as favoring Big Government and more taxes and they may unwittingly be setting the stage for a serious split in the Democratic Party.
What is emerging is the reaction of millions of Sanders supporters who will feel repudiated, not just left behind, as the Clintonites plan to celebrate at the Democratic Convention in July. The political experience gained by the Sanders workers, many of them young, helped Sanders register primary victories over Hillary in Colorado, Oklahoma, Minnesota, Vermont and New Hampshire with their energy and votes. They came close in Nevada and Massachusetts and probably won in Iowa.
Hillarys rhetoric has outraged Sanders supporters. She berates Sanders regularly for not being practical or realistic about his Medicare-for-all, breaking up big banks, a $15 minimum wage, a tax on Wall Street speculation and carbon and getting big money out of politics. Clintons putdowns exemplify why so many people who back Sanders want to defeat her. Clinton is the candidate of the status quo, favored over all other candidates from both parties by the Wall Street crowd and quietly adored by the military-industrial complex who see Generalissima Clinton as a militarist who would maintain the warfare state.
Democrat Robert Reich, former Secretary of Labor under Bill Clinton, derided this We Shouldnt Even Try attitude common among many frightened Democrats. These are, in Reichs words, the establishment Democrats Washington lobbyists, editorial writers, inside-the-Beltway operatives, party leaders and big contributors who have grown comfortable with the way things are. These hereditary Democrat opinion-shapers tell their audiences that Hillary personifies experience and electability. They argue it is either Clinton or Trump or some other crazed Republican.
Here we go again. Every four years, the Democratic leaders define the Democratic candidate by how bad the Republicans are. This is designed to panic and mute their followers. Every four years, both parties become more corporatist. Sanders voters want to define the Democratic Party by how good it can be for the people. And these Sanders voters may not go back into the Democratic Party fold.
Low turnout for the Democratic Partys primaries is being compared to a much higher Republican voter turnout for their candidates. Low turnout in November would dim Hillarys chances in an electoral college, winner-take-all system.
Such Democratic Party misfortune can become more likely should Bernie endorse Hillary at the Democratic Convention without any conditions or her acceptance of his agenda, assuming she is the nominee. Last year he declared that he would endorse the Democratic nominee. Certainly, all the Democratic politicos in the Congress who endorsed Hillary set no conditions. The large labor unions that went with Hillary are known for giving their endorsements without receiving any benefits for workers. So, Hillary would have no mandate should she win the election. And you know that Clintons without mandates tend to bend toward Wall Street and rampant militarism.
It is doubtful whether Hillary will credibly adopt any of Bernies agenda, considering where her campaign money is coming from and how unwilling she is to alienate her circle of advisors.
Where does this leave the Sanders people who see Hillary as experienced in waging wars, qualified as an entrenched pol, and realistic to suit the plutocracys tastes, and not really getting much of anything progressive done (alluding to the ways she has described herself)?
The energetic Sanders supporters, including the Millennials who voted so heavily for Bernie, could form a New Progressive movement to exercise a policy pull on the establishment Democrats before November and to be a growing magnet after November with the objective of taking over the
Democratic Party starting with winning local elections. This will have long-term benefits for our country.
To those who point to history throwing water on such a potential breakout, I tell them to look at the 2016 presidential primaries. All bets are off when political debates become big media business with huge ratings, and when a gambling czar and builder of expensive real estate, Donald Trump (a hybrid Rep/Dem), is overturning all the old homilies about presidential politics, and is in a primary contest with two freshmen Senators whose vacuous ambitions are their only achievements.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)How I LOVE this man and this President.
sofa king
(10,857 posts)It's in the bag. Nothing to worry about; nothing weird is gonna happen in this election, nope. A cake walk.
Not nervous at all, nope.
Cha
(296,868 posts)This is the Perfect Day to do it!
Great to see you!!! What a wonderful week this is turning into!!! I'm getting so excited.
Cha
(296,868 posts)I can hardly stand it!
U2!
George II
(67,782 posts)...they're saying that video was made on Tuesday.
Wonderful day for Democrats and for The United States.
Cha
(296,868 posts)"NOT putting their fingers on the scale" which pissed me off.. and Obama just did!
awake
(3,226 posts)..Delegates before endorsing her, no need to throw Obama under the bus.
Cha
(296,868 posts)democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)As a former DC voter, I wish the President had waited 5 more days to give DC voters their due, but he waited until she had a majority of the pledged delegates, so I can't complain too much. Bernie himself said the president was very fair to him.
Native
(5,936 posts)If Bernie got that impression, and Obama turned right around and put all ten fingers on the scale, that tells me either Bernie sees things only in the way he wants to see them or Obama was none too pleased with what Bernie had to say and realized nothing he could say would change Bernie's mind, so he simply didn't press his case, and Bernie just assumed what he wanted to assume. Very smooth!
Cha
(296,868 posts)Thursday so she knew it was coming.
I don't know what he told sanders but it was an odd thing for him to say about the "finger on the scale" if he did know.
And, yes The President took the day with his brilliant endorsement of Hillary!
Hillary's Tweet!
Hillary Clinton
✔ ?@HillaryClinton
Honored to have you with me, @POTUS. I'm fired up and ready to go! -H
7:56 AM - 9 Jun 2016
6,288 6,288 Retweets 13,303 13,303 likes
https://theobamadiary.com/2016/06/09/chat-away-833/#comments
Native
(5,936 posts)the thumb on the scale reference was as to how much he appreciates that Obama and Biden said in the beginning they were going to remain impartial during the process, so it could be interpreted as an "up to this point in time" kind of reference. He then, in this order, talked about the issues he would be taking to the convention, dissed Trump, said he would work to make sure that Trump did not become president, will compete in the D.C. Primary and is in favor of D.C. statehood, is looking forward to a full count of the votes in California and believes the results will show he came in much closer, he spoke with Hillary on Tuesday and congratulated her on a strong campaign, and he will be meeting with her in the future to determine how they can both work together to defeat Trump. That was it in a nutshell.
Cha
(296,868 posts)and they want her.
She has more votes and more delegates and he can't take that away from her.
Native
(5,936 posts)in his speech he very carefully says he will work with (not for) Clinton to make sure Trump does not get elected. He says nothing about making sure that Hillary is elected. I just can't see him ever admitting he really lost when he has been saying the system is rigged since day 1. I hope I'm wrong, but I just don't see him ever coming fully around.
Cha
(296,868 posts)be so nice to him.. and he's not ever going to endorse her.
We'll win without that, of course.. She just got Martin O'Malley's Strong Endorsement.
Native
(5,936 posts)It was cracking me up to see how many Bernie supporters were like, who is O'Malley?
BlueMTexpat
(15,365 posts)thing about this: "... either Bernie sees things only in the way he wants to see them or Obama was none too pleased with what Bernie had to say and realized nothing he could say would change Bernie's mind, so he simply didn't press his case, and Bernie just assumed what he wanted to assume."
From the way that Bernie just went ahead and did what he had likely planned to do all along with his grandstand request to see the Prez, i.e., gave a speech with the WH as a backdrop to get some free publicity for next week's primary in DC, I believe that is pretty much what happened.
Bernie really seems to be tone-deaf with people skills in just about every single way.
I'm happy that he did get his few minutes in front of the WH, but I very much doubt that he swayed even a single DC Dem voter.
classykaren
(769 posts)bklyncowgirl
(7,960 posts)democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)I believe he knew since Sunday, and asked the president to hold off until they met on Thursday.
I am very certain that Obama would have informed him during their meeting if he did not already know.
He may not have known the exact timing, but he knew it was coming.
As Bernie himself said, the president was very fair to him.
47of74
(18,470 posts)sarae
(3,284 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)Politicub
(12,165 posts)And a rock star on the global stage.
The GOP still hasn't let shrub leave the ranch. What a contrast.
still_one
(92,061 posts)BootinUp
(47,085 posts)herding cats
(19,558 posts)Now he can start kicking some Trump butt!
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)lovemydog
(11,833 posts)greatlaurel
(2,004 posts)President Obama was perfect in his endorsement speech.
UtahLib
(3,179 posts)SpankMe
(2,957 posts)Let's get moving. Trump's an asshole for whom assholes will be voting - en masse.
It's all about getting out the vote, now. The actual issues are secondary.
Volaris
(10,266 posts)Ain't this the sad Truth, and what some here have been trying very very hard to tell us needs to change. That having been said,
Game On Trumps about to get his ass handed to him. Go Team! (?)..
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)Thank you, Mr. President!
brooklynite
(94,363 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Walk away
(9,494 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)Great endorsement...glad it came out today. Trump won't know what hit him!
postatomic
(1,771 posts)gademocrat7
(10,645 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)I thought he was a better man than that.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)Who did you think he was going to endorse, the person who lost the nomination???
grasswire
(50,130 posts)I thought he would wait until the voting is finished, at least. Five million votes are yet uncounted in California. D.C. has yet to vote.
It's a matter of propriety and courtesy.
Unseemly for him to look as if he is joining the race to beat the FBI's timing.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)For all intents and purposes, Sanders lost in April after the NY primary when her pledged delegate lead became insurmountable. Even if he had won the last six states, he still wouldn't have been able to surpass Hillary in pledged delegates.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)You are asking me to abandon my core values to support values that are anathema to me as a proud progressive Democrat all my life.
I will not give license to your Third Way. The world is new. And it is not mine, nor yours. It belongs to the millions of young people who see hope, who see a better America in social democracy.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)They are on their own, in the opinion of millions of Democrats who voted for Bernie. We have been continually disrespected, beaten up, despised for our insistence on traditional core Democratic values.
You can't expect us to surrender our core values in order to bail out someone who stands for something totally anathema to us. We are not going to give license to Third Way/DNC politics of the past by bailing her out.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)....for the candidate of their choosing. The candidate who gets the most votes gets to move on. You are basically saying you don't think that should happen, and want to erase what the voters decided.
If you don't like it, you can leave the party and support Stein, or Johnson or whatever other candidate who thinks they're better than us wants to push. I just hope you enjoy their party members better and maybe they'll fall 100% in line with you at all times so you can coexist.
I will vote for whomever the nominee of the Democratic party is.
I respect the will of my fellow Democrats.
Period.
End of story.
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)Even if Bernie were to get every one of the outstanding votes in California and every vote in DC (highly unlikely), I believe she would still be ahead in votes and pledged delegates. Am I wrong about that?
I too wish the president had waited until next Wednesday out of respect for DC voters, but I understand why he is eager to get out on the campaign trail and start helping. He had planned to start in April and held back all this time out of respect to Bernie and to people like us, who supported him in 2008 and now support Bernie.
SouthernDemLinda
(182 posts)Excerpt From:
Aljazeera.com?
Al Jazeera
Marwan Bishara is the senior political analyst at Al Jazeera.
"I rushed to finish Hillary Clinton's book, Hard Choices, this week, expecting her to clinch the Democratic Party nomination for president. She did, but I am evermore ambivalent about her and her chances of winning.
Many factors will prove decisive in the November elections, but Clinton continues to suffer from the same shortcomings that cost her the 2008 Democratic Party primaries.
This is particularly important because in the public mind, the contrast can't be starker between the same packaged Clinton and the unrestrained Republican nominee Donald Trump. She won the Democratic nomination by mastering the rules of the game; he won the Republican nomination by refusing to play by the traditional rules of the game.
But come November, Clinton could still lose the general elections even though shes running against a populist candidate with "no policy knowledge or workable proposals", who managed to alienate so many Latinos, Muslims and African Americans.
Hard Choices is a tough read not because it's a long and exhaustive balance sheet of her tenure as secretary of state, but rather because it is as self-congratulatory as it is self-explanatory.
She boasts of how her diplomatic intervention prevented "explosive confrontation"; how the team Obama-Clinton was seen as a "diplomatic version of the TV thriller, Starsky and Hutch"; and how she succeeded in lobbying for General Electric to gain multibillion-dollar contracts in Algeria. But there's little or no serious admission of fault and failure and of lessons learned, and certainly no bold vision for America in the world.
Since it was written with the intention of running again for president - clearly, not a "hard choice" - it's the kind of book that reveals less than it conceals; peddles instead of explaining. It confirms many of the doubts about Clinton's authenticity.
Like her book, Clinton's campaign also projects an image of a scripted and packaged candidacy that contrasts sharply with her Republican opponent.
Despite his ignorance, Donald Trump has been able to communicate freely, effectively and spontaneously with his base.
The contrast in their visions for America could not be any sharper, as this Washington Post graphic shows, but it mirrors America's own down-the-middle societal and political division.
What will tip the balance to either side is the contrast between their characters.
Likeability and trust
The Democratic Party primaries have exposed Clinton's failure to inspire or gain the trust of important segments of the voters, especially the young.
According to The New York Times: "Many in this newest generation of American voters say that they dont trust her, or that she represents a Washington disconnected from their struggles."
In order to overcome this deep-seated suspicion about her character, the Clinton-friendly newspaper recommends that Hillary release transcripts of her Wall Street speeches and acknowledge the State Department inspector's general claim: that using a private email server for official business was not allowed or encouraged, but she did it anyway, in a misguided effort to protect her privacy.
This might help Clinton regain some credibility among her detractors, Democrats and Independents. But it won't suffice to change her image."
Just sit back and relax......
obamanut2012
(26,047 posts)that's something to build upon, and you can see how proud her supporters are of it, no?
We elected him to end the war in Iraq, and got what, a mess there and war in about 6-7 other places?
Just imagine the improvements she can make...
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)if he'd heard of you in the first place.
obamanut2012
(26,047 posts)CreekDog
(46,192 posts)But she's growing on me.
HRC I mean.
stonecutter357
(12,694 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)obamanut2012
(26,047 posts)wildeyed
(11,243 posts)Love it!
onehandle
(51,122 posts)TeddyR
(2,493 posts)Could run for a third term. Better in so many ways.
gordianot
(15,234 posts)On that point alone impressive endorsement.
AntiBank
(1,339 posts)obamanut2012
(26,047 posts)craigmatic
(4,510 posts)sheshe2
(83,655 posts)Last edited Thu Jun 9, 2016, 04:57 PM - Edit history (1)
Hillary Clinton Verified account
?@HillaryClinton
President Obama endorses Hillary: "I dont think theres ever been someone so qualified to hold this office."
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https://twitter.com/PaulBegala
Angel Martin
(942 posts)MrWendel
(1,881 posts)they are both having a joint campaign event in Green Bay.
George II
(67,782 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,967 posts)GoneOffShore
(17,337 posts)I know that the President is always a 'cool' read, but that was exceptionally chill.
Looks like he wanted to do that about as much as he wanted to give her the SoS job.
George II
(67,782 posts)....the Obama/Clinton relationship over the last 8 years.
GoneOffShore
(17,337 posts)rury
(1,021 posts)too, GoneOffShore. Like he was "phoning it in."
Kind of tepid, just like I am toward Hillary. I think the Democratic Party could have done much better and nominated somebody other than a 90s Third Way DLC retread.
🙁😡👎🏾💤🙄 Sums up my attitude toward Hilary.
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)GoneOffShore
(17,337 posts)BlueMTexpat
(15,365 posts)The grapes are very sour for some.
GoneOffShore
(17,337 posts)It's the way I saw it.
He looked like a man that was having a beer with someone he wanted to get away from.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)....investigation by his own Justice Department.
Response to GoneOffShore (Reply #91)
rjsquirrel This message was self-deleted by its author.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Oh, WOW!
George II
(67,782 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)SouthernDemLinda
(182 posts)"I dont think theres ever been someone so qualified to hold this office,"
Yeah sure,
Way more than Presidents Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy. Who created their own money system to run the United States while they were in office.
The Bankers knew that the only thing that is a threat to their power is sovereign governments printing interest-free and debt-free paper money. They knew it would break the power of the international Bankers.
SouthernDemLinda
(182 posts)"I dont think theres ever been someone so qualified to hold this office,"
Yeah sure,
Way more than Presidents Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy.
Both of these former presidents had also created their own money system to run the United States while they were in office.
The Bankers knew that the only thing that is a threat to their power is sovereign governments printing interest-free and debt-free paper money.
They knew it would break the power of the international Bankers.
sheshe2
(83,655 posts)missingthebigdog
(1,233 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)BlueMTexpat
(15,365 posts)Prez O's been champing at the bit to do this for awhile now. Those two will ROCK together in the GE campaign!
GoneOffShore
(17,337 posts)That will definitely be a cause for alarm and a way to lose the GE.
reACTIONary
(5,768 posts)Response to George II (Original post)
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lillypaddle
(9,580 posts)ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)betsuni
(25,380 posts)Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)They are just polite ways of the "adults" to tell the "children" they cannot think on their own.
coco77
(1,327 posts)we all knew where he stood as well as other Dems. Congrats for what?
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)He also admires Reagan.