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Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 11:09 PM Jun 2016

Venezuela takes first step toward recall referendum of Nicolás Maduro

Source: The Guardian

Elections council will begin validating signatures of citizens seeking a recall referendum of the president, who faces heavy criticism due to a steep recession

Venezuela’s elections council has said it will begin a process of validating signatures of citizens seeking a recall referendum against the president, Nicolás Maduro, a small step in the opposition’s effort to remove a deeply unpopular leader.

Adversaries of the ruling Socialist party say the election authority is seeking to stall the referendum against Maduro, who is facing heavy criticism due to a steep recession, the world’s highest inflation and Soviet-like product shortages.

The elections council next week will allow citizens who wish to withdraw their names from a list of 1.4 million valid signatures to do so, elections chief Tibisay Lucena said in a news conference on Friday.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/10/nicolas-maduro-recall-referendum-venezuela-begins-steps

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nikto

(3,284 posts)
2. We should put in a US puppet, take over the oil, and exploit the hell out of Venezuela
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 05:44 AM
Jun 2016

Oh ...


but I guess that's what's going to happen as a result of all this anyway.
Wait for it.


Maybe we can put in a nice Pinochet-type.


Social-eezum must be stopped!!
Go Venezuela elites!
Go neoliberalism!!

Go USA!!!!

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
4. So we can count you as 1 vote for continuing to destroy the nation. OK.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 08:34 AM
Jun 2016

SEVENTY percent of the citizens want Maduro gone. The country is in a shambles and NONE of it is because of the US.
But you obviously think its just fine down there based on your callous and nonsensical response. Do you really care anything for the people of VZ or is it more important to slam the US? i guess we know the answer

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
5. I take issue with the simplistic neoiberal thinking displayed on this thread
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 09:22 PM
Jun 2016

The rather Trumpian simplicity of the thought-process displayed on this thread
is self-defeating, IMO.
Sadly, it is common in America.
But with corporate news coverage of VZ in America being so monolithic in it's reporting,
how can one be surprised at the public response, of which this thread is garden-variety.


No one could say Maduro has been a capable leader, but the situation there is far more complex
than corporate-owned US Media (with a dog in the fight, for sure), will ever report.

http://www.coha.org/the-other-explanation-for-venezuelas-economic-crisis-2/



If you can cite corporate media, I can cite a leftist source:

http://venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/12014


I do not vouch for either side being entirely in the right.

But, IMO, folks who monochromatically portray VZ's troubles in a simplistic light (that horrible, evil "social-eezum&quot
are misleading others, whether intentionally or not.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
6. Yeah, its the MEDIA causing all the trouble. Good lord.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 11:14 PM
Jun 2016

I suppose all the strife that we see going on is caused by the CIA?
Yes, total Socialism IS bad. Thats the way it is. Thats why places like the Nordic countries everyone points to are both Socialist and Capitalist societies
Seizing corporate assets & tossing out foreigners is never a good idea. Their govt is to blame, not the US or the UK.

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
7. But you can be assured ...
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:03 AM
Jun 2016

The big western banks and corps are waiting in the shadows for the right moment, ready to descend,
and feed.


Old appetites die hard ...







http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-and-venezuela-decades-of-defeats-and-destabilization/5434884

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
8. Everyone can be assured that VZ would be better off if ANYONE else was in charge
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:33 AM
Jun 2016

One of the richest countries on earth in resources, and you cant find paper to wipe your ass.
But its the US thats the bad guy.
Wonder where YOU live?

ButterflyBlood

(12,644 posts)
9. What's your point?
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:12 AM
Jun 2016

Venezuela should continue to be an absolute basket case under Maduro because at least they're not being exploited by big banks and Western corporations?

I'm sure the citizens of Venezuela take solace in that during the organized rolling blackouts that have become necessary to conserve power.

EX500rider

(10,835 posts)
13. And Global Research is a even worse site to quote:
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:42 AM
Jun 2016
”Headline: North Korea, a Land of Human Achievement, Love and Joy"
—Everything you need to know about Globalresearch

Globalresearch is an anti-"Western" website that can't distinguish between serious analysis and discreditable junk -- and so publishes both. It's basically the moonbat equivalent to Infowars or WND.
While some of GlobalResearch's articles discuss legitimate humanitarian concerns, its view of science, economics, and geopolitics is conspiracist -- if something goes wrong, the Jews West didit! The site has long been a crank magnet: If you disagree with "Western" sources on 9/11, or HAARP, or vaccines, or H1N1, or climate change, or anything published by the "mainstream" media, then GlobalResearch is guaranteed to have a page you will love.

Whenever someone makes a remarkable claim and cites GlobalResearch, they are almost certainly wrong.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Globalresearch

EX500rider

(10,835 posts)
12. Venz. Analysis isn't just a "leftist source"-they are a biased source:
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:39 AM
Jun 2016
Venezuelanalysis.com is a left-leaning, pro-Bolivarian Revolution news website. Its founder Gregory Wilpert stated in a 2007 interview that the site had received funding from the Venezuelan government's Ministry of Culture.
Greg Wilpert founded the website in 2003 with Martin Sanchez, one of the founders of Aporrea.org, a pro-Chavez website, who set up the "technical side" of the site. The set up of Venezuelanalysis.com was also aided by the Venezuelan government.
The Global Post described Wilpert as "perhaps the most prominent Chavista". Wilpert's wife Carol Delgado was named Consul General of Venezuela in New York in 2008.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuelanalysis.com

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
10. I guess you know better than the Venezuelan people.
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:27 AM
Jun 2016

Maybe you should go down there and "educate" the poor uninformed masses.

Some liberals can be insufferably arrogant and superior when telling other people in other countries how to vote.

Pathetic.



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nikto

(3,284 posts)
14. Regardless, just watch the western banks/investor groups as VZ likely falls to neoliberals
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:36 PM
Jun 2016

They are likely to feed on VZ thru austerity, probably for decades.
Unless VZ give sup HUGE royalties to foreign interests for their oil
drilling rights.


It's coming.

Looks like VZ's bottom-90% get screwed regardless.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
15. Is there an heir apparent to Maduro within the Socialist party?
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 02:47 PM
Jun 2016

The way Maduro himself was to Chavez? Now would be the time to groom such a figure.

EX500rider

(10,835 posts)
16. I am pretty sure the Venezuelan's aren't going to want more of the same...
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 02:59 PM
Jun 2016

When the current party in control since 1999 can't even keep the lights on or food in the stores and the inflation & murder rate are amoung the highest in the world it's time to try something else.

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