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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 02:31 PM Jun 2016

Trump Blasts Report Of Last-Ditch Effort To Oust Him At RNC: 'Totally Illegal'

Source: Talking Points Memo

Donald Trump on Friday flatly dismissed a report that dozens of GOP delegates are plotting to change the rules for the Republican National Convention in Cleveland in order to prevent him from snagging the nomination.

The Washington Post reported that some delegates to the RNC were lobbying to change its rules to unbind delegates in order to prevent Trump from clinching the nomination. Trump released a statement to The Post, which he barred this week from getting press credentials for his events, calling the reported movement "totally illegal."

“I won almost 14 million votes, which is by far more votes than any candidate in the history of the Republican primaries,” Trump said in the statement. “I have tremendous support and get the biggest crowds by far and any such move would not only be totally illegal but also a rebuke of the millions of people who feel so strongly about what I am saying.”

While the newspaper reported it was delegates agitating for a rules change, Trump took a shot at his primary opponents, appearing to blame them for the campaign. “People that I defeated soundly in the primaries will do anything to get a second shot—but there is no mechanism for it to happen,” Trump said in his statement to the Post.

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-blasts-wapo-rnc

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Trump Blasts Report Of Last-Ditch Effort To Oust Him At RNC: 'Totally Illegal' (Original Post) DonViejo Jun 2016 OP
there is one mechanism donnie swhisper1 Jun 2016 #1
Why would we want that shitstain ousted? Here's hoping tRump remains the Rethuglian nominee. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2016 #26
LOL - obviously not a legal scholar leftynyc Jun 2016 #2
I Was Wondering about the Legality of It, Too Leith Jun 2016 #4
Nothing illegal about it leftynyc Jun 2016 #7
+1 n/t jaysunb Jun 2016 #20
It is illegal so Trump is correct. former9thward Jun 2016 #22
There might be some state laws involved. Jim Lane Jun 2016 #23
This is essentially correct. djg21 Jun 2016 #24
This is not a federal election skepticscott Jun 2016 #15
Change it to bowling balls instead of tomatoes and I'll sign on. n/t reflection Jun 2016 #18
I want to have Hillary go up against Trump. FarPoint Jun 2016 #19
Kucinich? huh? Don't you mean Kasich? 2banon Jun 2016 #27
Yes... Kasich. .. FarPoint Jun 2016 #28
I wonder if the rules state that the nominee is chosen by a majority of ALL delegates or.... George II Jun 2016 #3
Likely the first. With clarification. The majority of those present. LiberalFighter Jun 2016 #5
Theatrics on several levels bucolic_frolic Jun 2016 #6
Problem is jacksonian Jun 2016 #11
LOL bucolic_frolic Jun 2016 #12
Rush Limbaugh: "Republicans Make a Huge Mistake Siding with Obama Against Trump" TomCADem Jun 2016 #8
What do you think a money grubbing slimeball like Trump will do when they offer him world wide wally Jun 2016 #9
So the whole thing bucolic_frolic Jun 2016 #13
just sayin' world wide wally Jun 2016 #14
a civil war in which we would root for both sides to lose nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #10
Well, I know that the republican party would never ever do anything illgeal or underhanded. olddad56 Jun 2016 #16
"Totally Illegal" Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2016 #17
The Trump Reality show should be called flamingdem Jun 2016 #21
He'll quit before they oust him, and/or before he loses the general. This is for show. nt wiggs Jun 2016 #25
 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
2. LOL - obviously not a legal scholar
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 02:35 PM
Jun 2016

It may be unethical but the RNC can make whatever rules they want for their convention. Nothing illegal about it. I'm laughing more about this story:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-tweets-out-thanks-for-new-poll-showing-him-losing-to-hillary/

The poll is from May 10th and even back then, he was losing to Hillary. I'm getting a whiff of desperation in donnie's tweets.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
4. I Was Wondering about the Legality of It, Too
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 02:41 PM
Jun 2016

Isn't the RNC a private corporation? And, as such, the people who run it can run it the way they want? Is there a federal law that The Donald is referring to? Or is it what the RNC says itself what it "can" do?

former9thward

(31,984 posts)
22. It is illegal so Trump is correct.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 07:34 PM
Jun 2016

Most states have laws binding their party primary delegates to the primary winner. The states have taken the position that they are doing the work of the party for free by holding an election for a private party so the state has an interest in seeing that those delegates follow the will the people. That is the legal justification for those laws. These laws have not really been enforced --not that there has been much of a need to in the past. Many think these laws are not enforceable and unconstitutional. But no one has challenged them.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
23. There might be some state laws involved.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 08:22 PM
Jun 2016

Most of those delegates were chosen in primaries or caucuses that were conducted by the state governments at taxpayer expense. The states have a legitimate interest in not going through all that if it's just an advisory vote. I have the impression that some states require that delegates vote as per the results of the state's process, at least on the first ballot, and some may require it for the second or third ballot.

If the Republican Party doesn't want to abide by those restrictions, then it can damn well pick its leaders the way any number of NGOs do, by conducting elections at its own expense.

 

djg21

(1,803 posts)
24. This is essentially correct.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 08:36 PM
Jun 2016

Who gets a party's nomination is an internal party matter, dependent on the party's rules. If the party elects to change its rules and you don't like it, your recourse is to leave the party and join another, or start your own. How did this moron ever amass a fortune? Oh, I forgot. Hedoesn't really have a fortune, and what he does have he was born into.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
15. This is not a federal election
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 04:01 PM
Jun 2016

This is the GOP deciding who their candidate in a federal election will be.

If they want, they can tie the winner of the primaries to a post in the middle of the convention hall and let all the losers throw tomatoes at him...the one with the most hits gets to run. And if that ain't legal, it oughta be!

FarPoint

(12,344 posts)
19. I want to have Hillary go up against Trump.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 05:58 PM
Jun 2016

He is damaged goods now. So, now I'm uneasy about the GOP Convention... could they select a different Candidate like Kucinich?

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
27. Kucinich? huh? Don't you mean Kasich?
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 11:24 PM
Jun 2016

Kucinich is a Democrat. and he would never run as repuke.

George II

(67,782 posts)
3. I wonder if the rules state that the nominee is chosen by a majority of ALL delegates or....
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 02:37 PM
Jun 2016

...a majority of those who vote on the first ballot.

If the first is true, hundreds of delegates can simply abstain from voting on the first ballot, resulting in a nominee not getting that majority.

Then they're all unbound if a second ballot is required.

Quite honestly, though, I'm really looking forward to the general election campaign between Clinton and Trump. She'll skewer him!

bucolic_frolic

(43,134 posts)
6. Theatrics on several levels
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 02:44 PM
Jun 2016

stress-related paranoia and lashing out in anger

I still think this has been the plan

I doubt he will be the nominee because the GOP knows
they stand a better chance of winning and saving their
stranglehold on Congress without him

I think it's been planned this way all along

Replacing him with another candidate will create sympathy for him
as well as the actual nominee and throw a monkey wrench into
whatever plans Democrats have made to defeat Trump

He's just too much liability for the party at this point, at least
in my skewed point of view

jacksonian

(736 posts)
11. Problem is
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 02:57 PM
Jun 2016

they still need a consensus on a body to take Trump's frustrated narcissist abuse for the next decade and still lose bigtime in Nov.

That's the rub.

bucolic_frolic

(43,134 posts)
12. LOL
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:13 PM
Jun 2016

you're right, never thought of that .... it would be a requirement

Plus there could be lawsuits galore

So it's sort of like a gold digger who wants to find a rich old man
with one foot in the grave!

Wonder what November will bring? Sore loser goes gently into the night?

I doubt that's in the cards

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
8. Rush Limbaugh: "Republicans Make a Huge Mistake Siding with Obama Against Trump"
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 02:54 PM
Jun 2016

How can Republican leaders oppose Trump when Trump best represents their hateful, racist base? For example, here is a transcript of Rush Limbaugh cheer leading for Trump:

"Top Republicans joined with President Obama and other Democrats Tuesday in sharply condemning Donald Trump’s reaction to the nightclub massacre in Orlando, decrying his anti-Muslim rhetoric and his questioning of Obama's allegiances as divisive and out of step with America's values." Now, here's the way this is interpreted. The majority part in the House of Representatives in the Senate is the Republican Party, the majority party.

They're theoretically the opposition party, the party that should have been in there each and every day doing what it could do to stop as much of the Obama agenda as possible. We know that there has not been much of that. So what's happened here is Trumps goes out, says what he says, and "top Republicans" -- the majority party in the House and Senate... But, by the way, their positions are the result of people voting for them.

American voters have put them in these leadership positions. And what do they do? They do not side with the lone opposition to this horrible, destructive Regime, which has not protected us. No, they stand up and join it. Republican leaders stand up and join Obama! Now, in my view, there is rarely a reason for Republicans to side with Obama on a matter of policy. But, when you started talking about presidential elections, there is never an occasion where the Republican leadership should in any way stand up and side with a Democrat president.

Never. And yet here they are. This a microcosm, another example of why Trump is where he is. They were not elected to side with Obama, particularly against Republicans, particularly against the presumptive Republican nominee. This does not happen. And yet there it is. "Top Republicans Join Obama in Condemning Trump's Words." It's just stunning.

world wide wally

(21,740 posts)
9. What do you think a money grubbing slimeball like Trump will do when they offer him
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 02:55 PM
Jun 2016

a payment of all his debts from the campaign plus one million dollars in tax free cash or a pair of cement overshoes?
Sounds like an offer he couldn't refuse to me.

bucolic_frolic

(43,134 posts)
13. So the whole thing
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:15 PM
Jun 2016

has been a shakedown in plain sight all along? With nothing explicit?

SMH knowing it is possible

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