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Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 09:50 AM Jun 2016

Supreme Court Turns Down Contraceptive Case

Last edited Tue Jun 28, 2016, 01:33 PM - Edit history (2)

Source: MSNBC (cable)

The Supreme Court has declined to rule in the Washington State "religious freedom" contraceptive case. This means that service providers such as pharmacies cannot use the "religious faith" excuse to refuse to provide birth control products to customers.

Will post link when available.

ETA:

The U.S. Supreme Court declined Tuesday to take up a challenge to a Washington state law that makes it illegal for pharmacies to refuse to dispense medications for religious reasons.

The court's action, bypassing an invitation to wade back into the issues of religion and contraception, allows the state to enforce the law.

Chief Justice John Roberts and Justices Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito called the court's refusal to hear the case "an ominous sign."

The case involved a small family-owned business whose owners objected to stocking birth control pills.

The nation's pharmacies are generally allowed to make decisions about which drugs to stock, for business reasons or convenience. When a drug is not in stock, the pharmacies typically refer customers to a competitor nearby who has the medication.



Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/supreme-court-declines-hear-pharmacy-s-religious-objections-case-n600261



More good news for women...the Washington State injunction stands

Three guesses who dissented in the 5-3 decision. The three RW apologists who are left, of course: Roberts, Clarence and Alito.

Is it my imagination, or has the SCOTUS drifted slightly leftward since the ideologue Scalia departed so unexpectedly?

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Supreme Court Turns Down Contraceptive Case (Original Post) Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 OP
They're rolling! merrily Jun 2016 #1
Seems to me the women justices are much more assertive now that Scalia is gone. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #3
There really is a point where bucolic_frolic Jun 2016 #2
The line is being engraved in stone. Enough of imposing your Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #5
be nice if they followed their own leader rurallib Jun 2016 #12
If your religion awoke_in_2003 Jun 2016 #22
Precisely. klook Jun 2016 #26
Exactly, what is more important your religious beliefs or your job? fasttense Jul 2016 #50
Finally women being heard!!! Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #4
Ginsberg, Sotomayor and Kagan are the leaders on this, of course. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #7
Yes! mountain grammy Jun 2016 #11
OK, somebody pinch me. I know what I'm going to be listening to today. TrogL Jun 2016 #6
"One theory is with Scalia gone, Roberts is drifting left." Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #8
Kennedy is the one who keeps siding with the women lately passiveporcupine Jul 2016 #45
Nope, everybody was going on about "Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi" TrogL Jun 2016 #23
A dare we hope that when C.T. Finally retires that... Pluvious Jun 2016 #24
Ginsburg may be the first to retire. passiveporcupine Jul 2016 #46
another bit of good news. the woman-hating gestational slavers must be screaming in niyad Jun 2016 #9
Wow, four good decisions, one weird one. ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2016 #10
RWer Christian taliban vlyons Jun 2016 #13
Here are a couple links, it's across the internets now. Good. uppityperson Jun 2016 #14
Thanks. I was out for some time, so couldn't keep checking. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #16
An interesting note: it takes *4* SCOTUS justices to agree to hear a new case... Princess Turandot Jun 2016 #15
In other words, Repuke inaction on SCOTUS is biting them on the ass...they don't have the certiorari msanthrope Jun 2016 #17
I'm getting the distinct impression, that since the untimely departure of Scalia the Mouth, Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #18
That's sure what it looks like wryter2000 Jun 2016 #29
Read "bullying" him, yeah. That big mouth was daunting for many. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #31
I praise The Mighty Zeus every day for Pluvious Jun 2016 #25
Such great news. Stupendous. Thank you, Surya Gayatri. n/t Judi Lynn Jun 2016 #19
The SCOTUS is finally knocking this religious freedom bullshit down. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #20
K&R smirkymonkey Jun 2016 #21
Clarence Thomas is pissed. He planned on trying out the products in front of his staff. underpants Jun 2016 #27
I'm almost giddy wryter2000 Jun 2016 #28
That monumental conundrum had occurred to me, as well. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #30
It's because their agenda is anti-sex wryter2000 Jun 2016 #32
As someone once said, RWers hate to think of anybody enjoying themselves, Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #33
Actually, they want men to enjoy themselves. They want women.... Moonwalk Jun 2016 #34
Basically, women's original sin is being born female... Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #38
Basically, men have to rely on women if they want sons to carry on their empires... Moonwalk Jun 2016 #43
I don't think they are anit-sex. passiveporcupine Jul 2016 #47
Our Wisconsin legislature has been dealing with these crazy alec bill since walker was midnight Jun 2016 #35
Brilliant! "..bill that would require men watch a graphic video about the side effects of Viagra..." Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #39
I'm glad you appreciated a bit of equity…. midnight Jun 2016 #44
Zippity-doo-dah, 3 women on the Court, my oh my what a wonderful start... Hekate Jun 2016 #36
Three and counting...Hillary will appoint at least one or two more. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #40
If a private pharmacy that carried no Federally scheduled compounds claimed this... Socal31 Jun 2016 #37
Like I heard elsewhere: If you don't want to dispense drugs Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #41
Pharmicies don't push drugs, passiveporcupine Jul 2016 #48
Yeah, it's an "ominous sign", alright. It's a sign that the Court won't legitimize bullshit bigotry catbyte Jun 2016 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author shadowandblossom Jul 2016 #49
Thank you riversedge Jul 2016 #51
REC riversedge Jul 2016 #52
Now they need to revisit Greece vs Galloway Danmel Jul 2016 #53
It's about time this "conscience" baloney is stopped in its tracks bucolic_frolic Jul 2016 #54
 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
3. Seems to me the women justices are much more assertive now that Scalia is gone.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 09:57 AM
Jun 2016

They really ARE on a roll!

bucolic_frolic

(43,141 posts)
2. There really is a point where
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 09:55 AM
Jun 2016

all this faith stuff has got to stop. The faith and conscience people are constantly
moving boundaries and creating new ones, and embodying the products we consume
or the business relationships we have with implicit yet specific supernatural powers
that are an extension of their religious beliefs.

Soon we won't be able to buy or sell anything without approval from some religious
approval board.

Glad to see the Supreme Court draw a line in the sand.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
5. The line is being engraved in stone. Enough of imposing your
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 09:59 AM
Jun 2016

religious faith BS on others in the public sphere.

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
50. Exactly, what is more important your religious beliefs or your job?
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 07:34 AM
Jul 2016

There comes a time when you have to make a decision.

That's why you don't see pacifists in the military.

 

Silver_Witch

(1,820 posts)
4. Finally women being heard!!!
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 09:59 AM
Jun 2016

No one should be refused medicine because some has an imaginary friend they think is say No!

TrogL

(32,822 posts)
6. OK, somebody pinch me. I know what I'm going to be listening to today.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 09:59 AM
Jun 2016

I work as a truck driver. I'm often out of range of terrestrial radio so I listen to the POTUS politics channel on Sirius XM. Of the 3 politics channels available it considers itself "in the middle".

So I turn on the radio yesterday and they're babbling away about the Supreme Court and Texas abortion and I go universe am I in this time? So for the entire day Michael Smerconish, the mid-day show (Briefing room?) and Steele and Unger go on and on with this sort of "what planet am I on?" vibe.

I'm expecting more of the same today.

One theory is with Scalia gone, Roberts is drifting left.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
8. "One theory is with Scalia gone, Roberts is drifting left."
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 10:06 AM
Jun 2016

May this prove to be true. From your keyboard to the "Feminine Energy" of the Universe.

Roberts needs to get more in touch with his feminine side.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
45. Kennedy is the one who keeps siding with the women lately
Sat Jul 2, 2016, 05:01 PM
Jul 2016

Roberts has stuck with Alito and Thomas for the most part.

I hoped Roberts was leaning left a few years back, but then he seems to have swung back to the right lately. Maybe because Scalia is gone and he feels the court needs balance.

Pluvious

(4,310 posts)
24. A dare we hope that when C.T. Finally retires that...
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 10:25 AM
Jun 2016

...Hilary will add one more woman to the bench and get us near parity ?

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
46. Ginsburg may be the first to retire.
Sat Jul 2, 2016, 05:08 PM
Jul 2016

So we really need two more women. There are about .97 males for each female in the US.

The court should be five women to four men, or four of each with a trans woman as the fifth.

Women make better decisions anyway.

Unless they are strongly religious...then they follow the patriarchal rules of their church.

So next we make sure that at least five of the justices are atheists.

niyad

(113,275 posts)
9. another bit of good news. the woman-hating gestational slavers must be screaming in
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 11:11 AM
Jun 2016

frustration about now. GOOD!! may they choke on their hatred and rage.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
13. RWer Christian taliban
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 12:06 PM
Jun 2016

Read your red letter Bible and do what Jesus says, and stop acting like you're a better Christian and more righteous than everyone else. You don't like contraceptives? Don't use them. Stop sticking your long spiteful noses into other people's private lives. Don't you have enough bad karma and sins of your own to rectify? Haven't you wronged enough people and broken enough promises that you need to make right? Clean up your own damn life and purify your own mind and heart, and stop putting yourself forward as the God police.

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
15. An interesting note: it takes *4* SCOTUS justices to agree to hear a new case...
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 01:12 PM
Jun 2016

In this instance, it's clear that three were in favor of taking this one: Alito, who wrote a 14 (!) page dissent, and Thomas and Roberts, who concurred with it.

Justice Kennedy did not vote to take it. Following his deciding vote in support of marriage equality late last term, as well as being the unexpected sixth vote for the ACA at that same time, he was the deciding vote in favor of the U of T in the affirmative action case this month, a completely unexpected result. His deciding vote in favor of the clinics in the abortion case was not a shocker, but it was also not a lock.

Let's hope he's had a permanent epiphany, at least regarding these type of constitutional cases.

BTW perhaps we should give the devil his due - for a millisecond - for calling Antonio home. It made a difference in some of the decided cases, such as the public union dues one that ended 4-4, which left the lower court decision in favor of the union in place. And, Scalia would certainly have voted to take this pharmacy case.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
17. In other words, Repuke inaction on SCOTUS is biting them on the ass...they don't have the certiorari
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 01:35 PM
Jun 2016

votes.....

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
18. I'm getting the distinct impression, that since the untimely departure of Scalia the Mouth,
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 01:42 PM
Jun 2016

the three remaining RW ideologues are having more trouble imposing their POV.

The female cohort is in the ascendancy!

wryter2000

(46,039 posts)
29. That's sure what it looks like
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 11:12 AM
Jun 2016

Remember when it was common knowledge (always questionable) that O'Connor could steer Kennedy? Maybe Scalia was influencing him.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
20. The SCOTUS is finally knocking this religious freedom bullshit down.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 06:27 PM
Jun 2016

Faith is rules YOU follow - Others do not need to comply with your faith's rules. And the legislature has the clear power to regulate commerce, such as pharmacies.

wryter2000

(46,039 posts)
32. It's because their agenda is anti-sex
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 01:16 PM
Jun 2016

It doesn't have anything to do with life. It's about pushing their Victorian sexual "morals" on the rest of us...especially women. I'll bet that pharmacy sells condoms.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
33. As someone once said, RWers hate to think of anybody enjoying themselves,
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 01:20 PM
Jun 2016

especially in their bedrooms.

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
34. Actually, they want men to enjoy themselves. They want women....
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 08:13 PM
Jun 2016

...to be constantly pregnant and taking care of children. That way, the women haven't anytime to work (so the men get all the jobs—and all workplaces go back to being men-only-clubhouses). Nor any time to be in politics (so politics go back to being men-only-clubhouse). In addition, if the women are always pregnant, nursing, or changing diapers and watching after kids, it forces them stay at home (while men can go out), and rely on men to feed, clothe and house them (i.e. forces them to be good, obedient sex slaves).

THAT is what these right-wing religious types want. Contraceptives and abortion free women from being enslaved to home, children and husbands. And people of such religious faith don't like that. Besides, the bible says that women have to bear children and suffer in penance for eating the forbidden fruit. So, just following the bible there....

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
43. Basically, men have to rely on women if they want sons to carry on their empires...
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 02:45 PM
Jun 2016

...and that is an inconviencence because women seem to think they should have a say in the matter. Men want women to be like their farm animals, breeding when they want them to breed for their benefit and with no say in the matter.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
47. I don't think they are anit-sex.
Sat Jul 2, 2016, 05:13 PM
Jul 2016

Just unmarried sex. They want women to have lots of babies. It's God's decision whether or not you have a baby.

I've always thought women should go on strike and just say no more sex until they get their way. I've been on strike for about thirty years now and it seems to be working!

midnight

(26,624 posts)
35. Our Wisconsin legislature has been dealing with these crazy alec bill since walker was
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 09:29 PM
Jun 2016

proped up by them to keep women from birth control.

but found this instead…

"Illinois State Rep. Kelly Cassidy (D) proposed an amendment to a state mandatory ultrasound bill that would require men watch a graphic video about the side effects of Viagra before legally being able to receive a prescription for it.

The measure is another move for gender equity to the state’s “Ultrasound Opportunity Act” proposed in the House which would require women in Illinois undergo an ultrasound that could be invasive and is medically unnecessary before having an abortion."



Read more: http://www.care2.com/causes/lawmaker-adds-viagra-amendment-to-illinois-ultrasound-bill.html#ixzz4D1Pn3KaW

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
39. Brilliant! "..bill that would require men watch a graphic video about the side effects of Viagra..."
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 03:47 AM
Jun 2016
 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
40. Three and counting...Hillary will appoint at least one or two more.
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 03:51 AM
Jun 2016

It's a new day, it's a new dawn!!!



Socal31

(2,484 posts)
37. If a private pharmacy that carried no Federally scheduled compounds claimed this...
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 01:19 AM
Jun 2016

I would agree with their right.

However, since no pharmacy can survive without pushing speed (ADD drugs), Heroin (Opiates), and rat poison (benzodiazapines), they have to follow federal law on women's rights.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
41. Like I heard elsewhere: If you don't want to dispense drugs
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 03:54 AM
Jun 2016

as a non-political public service, don't open a pharmacy.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
48. Pharmicies don't push drugs,
Sat Jul 2, 2016, 05:17 PM
Jul 2016

Pharmco's do. Doctor's do. Pharmacies just sell what the doctors are prescribing.

And it still wouldn't make it right. That's like saying a grocery store doesn't have to carry milk or cheese because the owner doesn't like eating dairy.

Sorry...if you are a pharmacy, you should carry the legal medications your town needs and are being prescribed by the doctors.

catbyte

(34,376 posts)
42. Yeah, it's an "ominous sign", alright. It's a sign that the Court won't legitimize bullshit bigotry
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 11:54 AM
Jun 2016

disguised as "religious freedom."

It DOES matter--especially to women and men who care about women--who wins in November. Don't kid yourselves.

Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Danmel

(4,913 posts)
53. Now they need to revisit Greece vs Galloway
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 08:05 AM
Jul 2016

Which allows religious prayers at legislature meetings. Tired of having to hear about Jesus and be one of the only people in the room not crossing themselves when I am at work.

bucolic_frolic

(43,141 posts)
54. It's about time this "conscience" baloney is stopped in its tracks
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 01:18 PM
Jul 2016

before we have conscience about everything

Refusing to serve beef ... refusing to sell bottled water ... refusing to ring up tofu

Refusal to allow a customer to buy non-vegetarian cat food because of the
animal ingredients

WHERE does it end? Everyone will be vivisecting their consciences and American
life will come to a virtual stop

There's a traffic jam brewing in Conscienceville

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