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IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
Sat Jul 2, 2016, 07:00 AM Jul 2016

Serbia cafe killing: Gunman shoots wife and four others, injuring 20

Source: BBC

Five people have been shot dead and at least 20 injured in a cafe in north-eastern Serbia.
Police say the gunman killed his wife and another woman, before randomly shooting at other customers at the cafe.
Three children were among those injured in the attack near the city of Zrenjanin, the interior ministry said.
The gunman was arrested and police are investigating his motive, which is believed to be jealousy.
Witnesses told Serbia's state TV that the attacker came to the Makijato cafe and saw his wife there with a group of friends, the AP news agency reports. He apparently went home and came back with a gun.
"He just pulled out a gun and started shooting, first into the air," one of the witnesses, Svetozar Manojlovic, said.

Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36692786

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IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
4. It probably does
Sat Jul 2, 2016, 08:10 AM
Jul 2016

mass shootings are more frequent than before. The preparation and planning is easier than with other methods. And it also happens impulsively in a fit of rage.

 

Craig234

(335 posts)
5. Competing values
Sat Jul 2, 2016, 08:35 AM
Jul 2016

One reaction to that is, "stop reporting shootings."

But another is to value values like free speech and reporting even with the price.

Unfortunately it's a choice, you can't have both.

What you do get though are people who pick one side, and by emphasizing that side, use it for their own benefit.

Reporting on ISIL also seems to contribute to some people deciding to commit acts and say they're for ISIL. It's a price of freedom.

 

Craig234

(335 posts)
12. It's uncleal whether that would have any effect
Sat Jul 2, 2016, 12:21 PM
Jul 2016

There's an argument that infamy might motivate some, and hiding their identity might reduce the 'reward' - at the price of the 'public's right to know'.

Of course there are all kinds of issues even if you want to do that, from the competition in the media industry where if one can learn the identity - and they likely can, how many people know, they shooter's acquaintances and family.

And also, there's that 'right to know' issue. You realize then that the government could 'disappear' someone on the grounds they're a shooter and hide their identity and never account for their actions. How about a public trial? I doubt it's practical at all.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
15. Your post contained hysteria about disappearances.
Sat Jul 2, 2016, 02:33 PM
Jul 2016

Which had no connection to reality with respect to my posts.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
6. It's rarely a fit of rage.
Sat Jul 2, 2016, 08:36 AM
Jul 2016

Most are planned. What is more likely is the news helps with ideation in people who are troubled, either by circumstances or mental issues. One common theme is people who carry these attacks out feel the world has screwed them, and they seek to screw it back.

IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
8. If the plan is to go home and grab the gun
Sat Jul 2, 2016, 09:28 AM
Jul 2016

then the plan can be fast and impulsively put together in few minutes rather than months or years.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
3. Serbia always ranks towards the top among all countries of the world in terms of gun ownership
Sat Jul 2, 2016, 08:01 AM
Jul 2016

For what that is worth.

Angel Martin

(942 posts)
11. there were millions of AK's in the Balkans
Sat Jul 2, 2016, 10:13 AM
Jul 2016

as a result of the Balkan wars.

That is why the black market price of an AK in europe is only 300 euros.

randr

(12,409 posts)
10. Crazy media coverage of possible terrorist attack once again misses the mark
Sat Jul 2, 2016, 09:56 AM
Jul 2016

Even ISIS claimed responsibility. Terrorism is the new fad sweeping the world. In the mean time the biggest threat to our lives is still crazy people with guns.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
17. Sounds like a case of domestic violence that had gotten out of control.
Sat Jul 2, 2016, 03:12 PM
Jul 2016

Not that any domestic violence case isn't a situation that has gotten out of control, this one was just more public and on a larger scale.

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