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Judi Lynn

(160,450 posts)
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 01:47 AM Jul 2016

Noah's ark of biblical proportions ready to open in Kentucky

Source: Associated Press

Noah's ark of biblical proportions ready to open in Kentucky

Dylan Lovan, Associated Press

Updated 11:25 pm, Tuesday, July 5, 2016



WILLIAMSTOWN, Ky. (AP) — A 510-foot-long, $100 million Noah's ark attraction built by Christians who say the biblical story really happened is ready to open in Kentucky this week.

Since its announcement in 2010, the ark project has rankled opponents who say the attraction will be detrimental to science education and shouldn't have won state tax incentives.

"I believe this is going to be one of the greatest Christian outreaches of this era in history," said Ken Ham, president of Answers in Genesis, the ministry that built the ark.

Ham said the massive ark, based on the tale of a man who got an end-of-the-world warning from God about a massive flood, will stand as proof that the stories of the Bible are true. The group invited media and thousands of supporters for a preview Tuesday, the first glimpse inside the giant, mostly wood structure.



Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/us/article/Noah-s-ark-of-biblical-proportions-ready-to-open-8342013.php

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Noah's ark of biblical proportions ready to open in Kentucky (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jul 2016 OP
An ugly shrine to willful ignorance sakabatou Jul 2016 #1
Is there any water near there? Maybe could start an annual Flying Spaghetti Monster jtuck004 Jul 2016 #2
LOLOLOLOL!!!!! Jazzgirl Jul 2016 #7
I wonder what portion of admittance proceeds... 63splitwindow Jul 2016 #3
None of it! Earth_First Jul 2016 #11
They need to make it bigger. davidthegnome Jul 2016 #4
Built with 18 million usd in tax incentives whilst making employees AntiBank Jul 2016 #5
all of that was adjudicated in the courts, wasn't it? maxsolomon Jul 2016 #42
What a joke... TipTok Jul 2016 #6
We have a tragedy in Louisiana. I can't bring myself outrage over this. yeoman6987 Jul 2016 #32
I can walk and chew gum at the same time... TipTok Jul 2016 #43
It would be cool if they got two of every ... Tortmaster Jul 2016 #8
I used to think it was 40 days... TipTok Jul 2016 #44
Awesome, TipTok! Tortmaster Jul 2016 #49
I actually got a lesson on how the dinosaurs survived the flood. dixiegrrrrl Jul 2016 #59
I'm pretty sure you go down the slide and land in a big pile of ignorance... TipTok Jul 2016 #60
LOL!!!! dixiegrrrrl Jul 2016 #64
A shrine to complete idiocy. You have to prove you're an imbecile to get into the museum. n/t Judi Lynn Jul 2016 #62
Since these......er...hmmmm "people" say that humans and dinosaurs walked together, joshdawg Jul 2016 #9
He took Dino eggs ... JoePhilly Jul 2016 #51
I wonder who he got to hatch the damned things. That one is even as stupid as this fundie ark. n/t Judi Lynn Jul 2016 #53
God hatched them. JoePhilly Jul 2016 #54
That's right! He would causeth a great, warm cloud to surround the dino eggs. n/t Judi Lynn Jul 2016 #58
Well, obviously it was Daenerys Targaryen dixiegrrrrl Jul 2016 #65
Absolutely! She could make short work of that. She could have gotten to the ark with a dragon. n/t Judi Lynn Jul 2016 #67
I cannot wait to see the sewage system of the Ark. DetlefK Jul 2016 #10
Shows what you know with your sarcastic wit... Hoppy Jul 2016 #14
Well, you then wind up with a lot of animals Kelvin Mace Jul 2016 #33
Will it float? Historic NY Jul 2016 #12
It can't float FBaggins Jul 2016 #13
Concrete floats, as do really tiny rocks. ChairmanAgnostic Jul 2016 #16
Concrete absolutely can float FBaggins Jul 2016 #20
But with a witch's help . . . ? ChairmanAgnostic Jul 2016 #23
Concrete ships existed as an experiment during WW2. While they floated and sailed, Hoppy Jul 2016 #48
Who is dumber? The dumbasses that thought of this? The ones who paid for it or the ones who will pay Hoppy Jul 2016 #15
That's it? 100 mil for an 'Ark'?! apnu Jul 2016 #17
There's a bit more than that FBaggins Jul 2016 #21
Taxpayer $$$? Scarsdale Jul 2016 #18
Yes and no FBaggins Jul 2016 #22
The argument for tax credits was that it would encourage tourism... brooklynite Jul 2016 #38
True enough FBaggins Jul 2016 #41
I don't understand how it can be legal to provide tax incentives... TipTok Jul 2016 #45
What do they say about Noah's wife, Joan of Ark? struggle4progress Jul 2016 #19
That is the first time I have heard that dixiegrrrrl Jul 2016 #66
I give it two years before it falls over...fundies aren't known for their engineering skills snooper2 Jul 2016 #24
Of course they aren't PJMcK Jul 2016 #26
I give it 5 years, tops before it looks like "Heritage USA." Archae Jul 2016 #27
I'd be willing to wager that it was built to ANSI and ASTM consensus standards mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2016 #30
BUDDHISTS ADMIT THE BUDDHA WAS ACTUALLY THIS BIG! yuiyoshida Jul 2016 #25
Ham? His name is Ham? Like the son of Noah? Maeve Jul 2016 #28
Ham apparently "saw his father's nakedness," whatever that means. yellowcanine Jul 2016 #35
Yeah, so why curse the son? Maeve Jul 2016 #37
Well if Ham boinked Noah's wife it might make sense. yellowcanine Jul 2016 #39
Maybe Noah was still a little hammered when he let loose his curse, Judi Lynn Jul 2016 #57
Oh, geez! I didn't even make the connection until reading your comment! Yikes. Some coinkidink! n/t Judi Lynn Jul 2016 #56
There are no coincidences...everything happens for a reason! Maeve Jul 2016 #61
"A 510-foot-long ... Noah's ark...." Blasphemy! mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2016 #29
Is it built on a flood plain? Kelvin Mace Jul 2016 #31
Looking into my crystal ball packman Jul 2016 #34
Or people would actually use it because of the effects of climate change Yavin4 Jul 2016 #36
all that wood wasted. It could have been used to build houses for the poor. Javaman Jul 2016 #40
isn't this all based on a guy the Adventists excommunicated? this is all the Doobie Brothers' fault MisterP Jul 2016 #46
Mostly wood structure, my ass. Jerry442 Jul 2016 #47
Kicking and rec'ing to remind someone I already posted this story Wednesday morning at 12:47 am. n/t Judi Lynn Jul 2016 #50
They should really be embarassed. Really. Jazzgirl Jul 2016 #52
Don't worry in 5 years it will be a Indian casino....n/t Lance Bass esquire Jul 2016 #55
Seems like a waste of money rockfordfile Jul 2016 #63
 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
2. Is there any water near there? Maybe could start an annual Flying Spaghetti Monster
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 01:53 AM
Jul 2016

Ark Race. People could build their own arks and float all day, with lots of alchohol (and probably a little weed).

I bet you would compete with them for attendance, at least for a day.

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
11. None of it!
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 06:23 AM
Jul 2016

Instead, it will be used to finance E-class Mercedes Benz vehicles and 5200 Square foot homes of the members of the Board of Directors...

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
4. They need to make it bigger.
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 02:42 AM
Jul 2016

It has to be large enough to hold all of the republicans and religious fundamentalists. Then we need to find a way to convince them that there is a zombie apocalypse and God has demanded that they live at sea from now on - and avoid contact with land, politics, rational human beings and so on - for the rest of their lives.

 

AntiBank

(1,339 posts)
5. Built with 18 million usd in tax incentives whilst making employees
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 03:46 AM
Jul 2016

adhere to religious restrictions.

The owners and and most visitors are the "man lived with dinosaurs " plonkers.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
32. We have a tragedy in Louisiana. I can't bring myself outrage over this.
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 10:23 AM
Jul 2016

Big deal. I am sure they have other places like this in the United States.

Tortmaster

(382 posts)
8. It would be cool if they got two of every ...
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 05:20 AM
Jul 2016

... type of insect in the world and put them in tiny little cages so we could see how they would fit, along with a 40-day food supply. There are about 3,000 kinds of earthworms alone. God wouldn't let all of those earthworms die on sidewalks during the flood, would he? Of course, not! He's not into cruelty to animals. He would save two. In a cage. On the Ark. Somehow. Then, there are 350,000 different species of beetle and another 12,000 species of roundworm. I guess a few thousand of the roundworm species could be infesting, as parasites, all of the animals on board, so that storage problem is solved! Then, there are the flying insects, but as long as they can remain aloft for 40 days, hey, problem solved.

 

TipTok

(2,474 posts)
44. I used to think it was 40 days...
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 01:07 PM
Jul 2016

... but I was informed by Christian wackadoodles that it was actually a year...

Which , of course, in their mind made it all the more impressive a feat.

I did some math based on 8 people feeding these animals once a day. If all 8 worked in perfect synchronization, they could spend something like 36 seconds per animal per day.

Tortmaster

(382 posts)
49. Awesome, TipTok!
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 06:49 PM
Jul 2016

If there isn't, there should be an elective course in every high school honors program called "Flood Math." Cheers!

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
59. I actually got a lesson on how the dinosaurs survived the flood.
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 12:48 AM
Jul 2016

They ate the grain in the Pyramids.

Some woman told me that with a straight face, she was thrilled the Ben Carson had answered the vexing problem of Noah fed all the animals.

Oh..and Noah took only the smaller dinosaurs, but they grew up after the flood.

You think I am kidding?

Some yahoo calling himself Dr. Dino has "bought" a chunk of land about 60 miles north of me, and he is gonna put in a "Creation Museum" and there be actual dinosaur slides, when you enter thru the mouth and swissss down the tail, landing in god knows what on the ground.

Dr. Dino has been in the paper, soliciting funds from the more crazy church people, while at the same time denying the charges that the IRS is bringing against him for not paying taxes in 38 years, cause he is "a sovereign citizen and cannot be taxed."


You see all that crazy wrapped in one person and you have to just stand there till your mind unfreezes a bit.

joshdawg

(2,646 posts)
9. Since these......er...hmmmm "people" say that humans and dinosaurs walked together,
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 05:43 AM
Jul 2016

did Noah find two Brontosaurs to ride in the (had, kof, gag) ark with the rest?

just wondering.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
10. I cannot wait to see the sewage system of the Ark.
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 06:05 AM
Jul 2016

Thousands of animals stored in crammy compartments under decks, on various floors.

Imagine all the drinking-water for them. (Does the Ark have a system to collect rain-water?)
Imagine all the meat, insects and hay it takes to feed all these animals for 40 days. (Storing raw meat for 40 days outside of a fridge?)
Imagine the shit-tons of shit these animals would produce over 40 days.
Imagine how long it would take to clean the cages of thousands of animals from shit.
Imagine how much straw it would take to put in every cage AFTER cleaning it from shit.
Imagine how Noah's family hauled that shit, shovel by shovel, day in, day out, from the lower decks to the upper deck so they can throw it over board... except, wasn't the Ark nailed shut? So they stored all this shit in an extra compartment under deck?




HA!
TRICKED YOU!
ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS HAVE A SIMPLE AND LOGICAL EXPLANATION!!!

You see, not only did Noah have access to sci-fi-technology that allowed him to build such an Ark in record-time.
God also took care of all the problems I brought up.

It's very simple and very logical:
The Ark must have been real because Noah had access to futuristic high-tech and because God prevented the animals from eating and shitting.
How can you still deny that the Ark makes sense?
STOP LAUGHING!!!

 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
14. Shows what you know with your sarcastic wit...
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 07:57 AM
Jul 2016

If you don't feed 'em for 40 days, you don't need to carry the food. Therefore, you also don't need to carry out the shit.

FBaggins

(26,721 posts)
20. Concrete absolutely can float
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 09:34 AM
Jul 2016

See the caissons of the Mulberry harbour (WWII)...

... but not so much when it's a foundation for a building (whether the building is boat-shaped or not).

 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
48. Concrete ships existed as an experiment during WW2. While they floated and sailed,
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 04:39 PM
Jul 2016

they proved impractical.

The hulk of one of them is slowly disappearing off the western point of Cape May, N.J.

 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
15. Who is dumber? The dumbasses that thought of this? The ones who paid for it or the ones who will pay
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 07:58 AM
Jul 2016

to see it?

apnu

(8,749 posts)
17. That's it? 100 mil for an 'Ark'?!
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 08:07 AM
Jul 2016

I thought there was supposed to be a whole theme park, but the blew 100 million on one attraction? Ken Ham is a grifter.

FBaggins

(26,721 posts)
21. There's a bit more than that
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 09:40 AM
Jul 2016

They have a "museum" and a small zoo... as well as a zipline.

Of course... there are extra fees for those.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
18. Taxpayer $$$?
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 09:18 AM
Jul 2016

How many taxpayer $$$ were given to the Australian who tried to build it in Australia, and was refused? Well, Kentucky can afford it, I guess. (yeah, right)

FBaggins

(26,721 posts)
22. Yes and no
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 09:42 AM
Jul 2016

I believe there are tax incentives that are limited to waiving some taxes that wouldn't have been paid if it wasn't built. Not uncommon for new tourist attractions.

The concern is that it's still public money when the owners want to protect their right to discriminate.

brooklynite

(94,358 posts)
38. The argument for tax credits was that it would encourage tourism...
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 11:29 AM
Jul 2016

...and this will certainly attract the suckers from the Bible Belt.

FBaggins

(26,721 posts)
41. True enough
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 12:09 PM
Jul 2016

If lots of people travel in from out of town and stay in hotels (paying taxes), eat at restaurants (paying taxes), and buy things (paying taxes), then the government has a legitimate interest in creating tax incentives to encourage that economic activity (that otherwise would not take place).

 

TipTok

(2,474 posts)
45. I don't understand how it can be legal to provide tax incentives...
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 01:09 PM
Jul 2016

... to a religious organization who mandates a disavowal of homsexuality and pre marital sex to work there.

Among a dozen other things wrong with this whole concept.

Archae

(46,301 posts)
27. I give it 5 years, tops before it looks like "Heritage USA."
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 10:14 AM
Jul 2016

Jim and Tammy Bakker's theme park that is abandoned and decaying.

http://www.tommyandjames.net/heritageusa.html

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,306 posts)
30. I'd be willing to wager that it was built to ANSI and ASTM consensus standards
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 10:21 AM
Jul 2016

and that it meets the NEC, if the owners want insurance.

yuiyoshida

(41,818 posts)
25. BUDDHISTS ADMIT THE BUDDHA WAS ACTUALLY THIS BIG!
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 10:06 AM
Jul 2016


Buddhists in JAPAN today admitted the Buddha's statue size is totally accurate. The giant man walked the earth, after being born from a gigantic lotus flower, sixteen stories high, found in India. Being so huge, allowed him to freely walk about Asia at his leisure as armies of people brought him tons and tons of vegetables, so he wouldn't be tempted to eat them...

side story: BUDDHA VS GODZILLA!

uh, no.... but the story may as well be real as that thing in Kentucky. Geesh... I could say a few things, but it would probably get my response hidden.

Maeve

(42,271 posts)
28. Ham? His name is Ham? Like the son of Noah?
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 10:15 AM
Jul 2016

The one who offended Noah, but the old man cursed Ham's son for no damn good reason?
God is an iron.

yellowcanine

(35,694 posts)
35. Ham apparently "saw his father's nakedness," whatever that means.
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 11:02 AM
Jul 2016

Genesis 9:20-25 "Noah, a man of the soil, proceeded to plant a vineyard. When he drank some of its wine, he became drunk and lay uncovered inside his tent. Ham, the father of Canaan, saw his father's nakedness and told his two brothers outside. But Shem and Japheth took a garment and laid it across their shoulders; then they walked in backward and covered their father's nakedness. Their faces were turned the other way so that they would not see their father's nakedness. When Noah awoke from his wine and found out what his youngest son had done to him, he said, ‘Cursed be Canaan! The lowest of slaves will he be to his brothers.’"

Seems like harsh treatment for someone who happened to stumble upon drunk old Dad with his willy hanging out so there is speculation about what Ham actually did other than seeing Noah naked - particularly since "uncovering your father's nakedness" can have other meanings involving sexual intercourse with your father's wife, for example.

Judi Lynn

(160,450 posts)
57. Maybe Noah was still a little hammered when he let loose his curse,
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 12:02 AM
Jul 2016

accidently blighting the wrong guy!

Never drink and curse!
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Judi Lynn

(160,450 posts)
56. Oh, geez! I didn't even make the connection until reading your comment! Yikes. Some coinkidink! n/t
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 11:58 PM
Jul 2016

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,306 posts)
29. "A 510-foot-long ... Noah's ark...." Blasphemy!
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 10:19 AM
Jul 2016

Last edited Wed Jul 6, 2016, 12:08 PM - Edit history (1)

IIRC, the "original" was spec'd in cubits.

Feet to cubits

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
31. Is it built on a flood plain?
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 10:22 AM
Jul 2016

Because if it is, they are seriously tempting the gods of irony.

That said, the whole project smacks of idolatry, is a repudiation of actual Christianity, since I am guessing that given $100 million, Jesus wouldn't spend it on a giant middle finger to science, and proves that with that with a huge sum of money, modern days engineers can build a ship that would sink within an hour in a massive flood, using technology and tools not available to a drunken, bronze age farmer and his handful of followers.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
34. Looking into my crystal ball
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 10:33 AM
Jul 2016

I predict that within 5 years it will be either (1) shut down and abandoned or (2) - More likely, burned to the ground.

Javaman

(62,504 posts)
40. all that wood wasted. It could have been used to build houses for the poor.
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 12:04 PM
Jul 2016

but alas, that would be the "christian" thing to do.

I guess it's better to be a huckster and make a profit than be a profit that exposes hucksters.

Jerry442

(1,265 posts)
47. Mostly wood structure, my ass.
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 01:54 PM
Jul 2016

Go look at their video at:

https://answersingenesis.org/blogs/ken-ham/2015/10/15/next-steps-for-ark-construction/

It's transparently obvious that this is a reinforced concrete structure supported by multiple pillars. The wooden part is just a facade (not unlike Ken Ham's faith).

You'd have more luck at sea wearing a flotation device made of cinder blocks.

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