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Tue Jul 12, 2016, 07:51 PM

George W. Bush dances while mourners grieve Dallas police officers

Source: 9news.com.au

Eyebrows have been raised after former US President George W. Bush swayed and danced a merry jig onstage during a memorial service for five Dallas police officers killed last week.

Bush seemed out of tune with the gathering, smiling broadly and rocking back and forth while a choir sang The Battle Hymn of the Republic, a popular US patriotic anthem.

The former president held hands with wife Barbara and first lady Michelle Obama in a line of otherwise solemn mourners, and both appeared unsettled and uncomfortable by Bush's behaviour.

Predictably, Twitter users were quick to question what Bush was up to, and whether his behaviour was inappropriate.


Read more: http://www.9news.com.au/world/2016/07/13/09/40/george-w-bush-jigs-onstage-while-solemn-mourners-grieve-five-fallen-dallas-cops



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Reply George W. Bush dances while mourners grieve Dallas police officers (Original post)
Tactical Peek Jul 2016 OP
dlwickham Jul 2016 #1
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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 07:55 PM

1. poor George

he's finally lost it

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Response to dlwickham (Reply #1)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 08:07 PM

7. Finally?

This is the man who chose to attack the wrong country!

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Response to IggleDoer (Reply #7)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 08:18 PM

11. I don't think he ever choose which tie to wear

Cheney's hand was up his back the entire 8 years.

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Response to Major Nikon (Reply #11)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 08:59 PM

25. Exactly.

Now poor Laura has to take care of him.

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Response to Chemisse (Reply #25)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 06:47 AM

74. Painting

Maybe those paint fumes in therapy got to him? Laura benefited from all the money he made, let her take care of this clown. Alzheimers, maybe? Maybe pretending, in case the War Crimes Tribunal comes calling?

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Response to dlwickham (Reply #1)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 08:18 PM

12. Finally! Finally?

 

He never had it to lose!

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Response to RoccoR5955 (Reply #12)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 08:24 PM

14. booze and coke take their toll over the years

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Response to dlwickham (Reply #14)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 08:42 PM

20. No doubt he's moved on to some Opiate

It's 2016 for gods sake

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Response to ToxMarz (Reply #20)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 11:29 PM

47. Oxycontin

hillbilly heroin

I'm from WV so I can use that phrase

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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 07:55 PM

2. In the video, behind him, I think that is the police choir. One of them is wiping tears while

 

he clowns around.

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Response to jtuck004 (Reply #2)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 11:49 PM

49. Amazing! If he weren't a former President, he might get the bum's rush. n/t

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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 08:00 PM

3. That was just so weird. He had to be drunk.

I have watched it several times. At first Michelle looks embarrassed and Barack glances at her. Then he starts to sing, probably to "camouflage" bush's inappropriate behavior. He is such a gentleman.

Laura should have stomped on his foot or something. She just looks resigned, like "there he goes again". He is a national embarrassment.

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Response to femmocrat (Reply #3)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 10:58 PM

43. Very bizarre behavior

Earlier while he was seated, he looked very red faced and on the verge of tears. That made his behavior during the song that much more peculiar.

He certainly did look like he'd been drinking. We've seen this kind of odd behavior from George before. Brought back so many memories.

Yes, he is and always will be a national embarrassment.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #43)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 07:36 AM

80. like this classic...

george talks into tie...

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Response to Javaman (Reply #80)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 09:03 AM

89. Or that debate with John Kerry

where he appeared to be listening to someone through an earpiece.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #43)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 01:39 PM

101. agree he looks drunk---maybe stoned too

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Response to wordpix (Reply #101)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 01:44 PM

106. When they were seated

and he looked on the verge of tears, Laura also looked like she was about to cry. Maybe it had to do with her husband, not the fallen police.

Thank you for the link.

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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 08:02 PM

4. Can we even imagine the self righteous indignation of the rw scum...

 

had that been President or Mrs. Obama?

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Response to 63splitwindow (Reply #4)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 08:16 PM

9. ODS

The right got all pissy when Obama wore a tan suit to a press conference.

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Response to Mendocino (Reply #9)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 10:01 PM

35. Let's not forget the Coffee Cup Salute Incident, either... NT

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Response to Mendocino (Reply #9)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 01:40 PM

102. not to mention O got a 2nd term

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Response to 63splitwindow (Reply #4)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 11:50 PM

50. They'd be gibbering about it long after the next election.

Could be some of them would be yammering about it even as they died of old age.

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Response to 63splitwindow (Reply #4)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 01:41 PM

103. it would have been a "high crime" for sure in RW scum world

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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 08:03 PM

5. I get the distinct feeling Dubya has no idea what he's doing or where he is.

He's always seemed to have been that way, and his handlers like "Unca Dick" were the real people behind the throne.

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Response to Archae (Reply #5)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 01:42 PM

104. next will come the "George is on medication for a condition" routine

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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 08:06 PM

6. typical

I about get sick to my stomach anytime I see that criminal.

Peace

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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 08:07 PM

8. Disgusting

t

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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 08:16 PM

10. Just like the birthday cake or him playing guitar

when a tragedy hits

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Response to sakabatou (Reply #10)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 01:43 PM

105. don't forget his look at Katrina devastation from AF1

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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 08:21 PM

13. He was embarrassingly shit-faced at the Olympics a while back, too

 



http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_J4ZdWSdVghE/SM6zTqjUrnI/AAAAAAAAAqk/DEiKMY4W0Lg/s1600/george+bush+drank3.jpg


There used to be more photos of him being escorted out, but they're hard to find now.

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #13)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 08:30 PM

16. ...

 

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Response to 63splitwindow (Reply #16)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 08:45 PM

23. That elbow looks like the result of a drunken fall.

Barbara looks pretty good in that photo. She's aging well.

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Response to truthisfreedom (Reply #23)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 12:23 AM

55. probably because Barbara is his daughter

named after his mother. Laura is his wife.

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Response to barbtries (Reply #55)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 09:55 AM

94. Yeah, She is only 34.

That seems a little young to say that she is aging well at only 34 years old.

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #13)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 11:10 PM

45. Looks like at least 10 people are helping him n/t

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Response to ailsagirl (Reply #45)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 01:47 PM

108. we must pay for Secret Service + salary for this embarrassment of a person

No doubt these several keep Georgie from falling and breaking his bones, and make sure he's on his stomach when vomiting.

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Response to wordpix (Reply #108)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 01:51 PM

110. Speaking of vomiting...

remember when Bush Sr threw up at an official luncheon?? It's not nice of me to bring that up, except this reminded me of it. Talk about embarrassing!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #13)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 01:44 PM

107. he's "on medication." I didn't know about this Olympics embarassment

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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 08:29 PM

15. Much Ado About Nothing

People complaining about President Bush swaying at the memorial service is much ado about nothing. Many people sway when they hold hands and sing that song and other songs. In addition, a number of people do not subscribe to the idea of being overly sad at memorial services, or funerals.

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Response to erpowers (Reply #15)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 08:31 PM

17. And the grinning? nt

 

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Response to Th1onein (Reply #65)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 07:10 AM

77. *<

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Response to erpowers (Reply #15)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 08:34 PM

18. Add to that...

that the writer is a moron who doesn't know who Laura Bush is...

I can see being moved by the police choir to that song. Maybe not Pentecostal "rolling in the aisles" moved, but yeah.

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Response to erpowers (Reply #15)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 08:43 PM

21. I have never seen anybody swaying and grinning during that song. but, nice try.

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Response to erpowers (Reply #15)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 09:17 PM

28. He was wildly inappropriate. No matter

his personal feelings, he was at a public mourning and to try to start a dance line was disgusting...just like he is.

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Response to erpowers (Reply #15)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 09:29 PM

31. I agree

 

Nothing here, except he might be mentally handicapped.

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Response to erpowers (Reply #15)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 12:07 AM

51. I get that but

I'm not convinced he's sober or doing well. That wasn't the only sign.

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Response to erpowers (Reply #15)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 07:43 AM

83. he* is a former president and, call me crazy, should observer a certain level of decorum

that goes with that.

he* has always been a drunken buffoon.

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Response to erpowers (Reply #15)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 01:50 PM

109. many people sway but don't dance a "jovial jig." Going viral now, lol

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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 08:40 PM

19. chimpenfuhrer was probably drunk again

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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 08:43 PM

22. I just walked past the 9/11 memorial.



And all I could think of how that son of a bitch George W. Bush should be in fucking prison for allowing 9/11 to happen and how if he had been doing his fucking job I would have been visiting the observation deck of the original tower tonight.

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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 08:45 PM

24. I have long suspected that he has Alzheimer's Disease.

Even when he was in office. Given how that revelation damaged Reagan's legacy, I can see the Bushes desperately trying to conceal the truth.

The video is sad and disturbing, honestly.

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Response to BlueEye (Reply #24)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 09:04 PM

26. Lifelong drinking can cause dementia too.

I suspect he drowned his guilt and embarrassment in a bottle as soon as he left DC.

Poor Laura. What an albatross around her neck.

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Response to Chemisse (Reply #26)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 09:26 PM

30. Sociopaths do not suffer from guilt or embarrassment

he was probably angry that no one was sad to see him go. No doubt Laura has had to listen to 8 years of drunken ramblings about how he's "gonna show them" and "they'll all be sorry".

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Response to dflprincess (Reply #30)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 09:52 PM

34. I don't think he is a sociopath.

Dick Cheney is, of course.

But Bush is just a kind-of dumb guy who was controlled by people much smarter than him. He was a joke as a president - a buffoon. Him being flown around in a plane after 9/11 while Cheney took charge, was symbolic of his entire presidency.

That is not an excuse for what he did, however. And I am glad that at least he has the punishment of suffering from guilt and embarrassment for the rest of his days.

Now Cheney has no qualms at all. He'd do it all over again, only find a way to make even more money off of it.

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Response to Chemisse (Reply #34)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 10:12 PM

37. Assuming he has a conscience gives him far too much credit

Little Georgie has been indulged all his life, look up "entitled" and you'll see his picture. Not entirely his fault, after all, he was raised by a woman whose "beautiful mind" couldn't be bothered to look at the pictures of caskets coming back from his war.

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Response to Chemisse (Reply #34)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 12:09 AM

53. I absolutely think Dubya is a sociopath

all is emotions seemed fake - except when he was talking about the execution of Karla Faye Tucker - THAT excited him

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Response to Skittles (Reply #53)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 08:03 AM

85. I have read extensively about sociopaths and psychopaths...

just a weird hobby of mine.

sociopaths = nurture

psychopaths = nature.

sociopaths = understand the concept of right and wrong but their concept of such is very screwed up.

psychopaths = depending how high they score on the Hare Psychopathy Checklist-Revised they could have a sense of right and wrong or none at all.

And like spectrum disorders, sociopaths and psychopaths have a scale to which they are measured.

given georges* truly fucked up family, I would say that he is most definitely a sociopath but not scoring very high. He has a history of torturing animals (blowing up frogs), he has a history of very poor decision making skills (multiple failed businesses), he has a history of grandiose proclamations (Iraq had WMDs), he has a history of acting inappropriately (to numerous to list), he has a skewed concept of right and wrong (again the wars and numerous policy decisions), while on the face of it, that doesn't mean he is a sociopath on the scale of a mass murderer, per say. He can be called a low to mid level sociopath. he has others do his dirty work for him.

where as a psychopath, depending where they score on the HPC-R, has no sense of right or wrong, they see things as a mission to be accomplished and view the way they do things as "the end justifies the means". "So a few people were fired and now on the streets begging for money, but the corporation is doing wonderful!" statements such as this might seem extreme but are not complete out of the purview of a psychopath.

But as I wrote earlier, there is a scale to psychopaths. Not knowing dick chaney's upbringing other than his "humble" beginnings in Wyoming, I would say he scores low to mid level on the scale. while he is ruthless in his actions, he does get angry when he doesn't get his way, but will continue to believe he was right in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. And probably go to his grave that way. Again, not knowing a whole lot about him, if he is indeed psychopath, I can say with all certainty that he has a closet, probably several closets full of skeletons. He knows where the bodies are buried because he put them there.

however, all of this could be nothing more than blowing smoke.

it has been rumored in the past that george* was a major coke head. This gives possible evidence that he is a substance abuser. and many people who abuse drugs of one kind or another will give off the appearance of being a sociopath in extreme cases.

If george* is indeed still a substance abuser, I believe his just that, an extreme case.

It seems as if all his public appearances now fall into the the same category: public embarrassment aka inappropriate behavior for situation at hand.

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Response to Javaman (Reply #85)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 02:37 PM

114. good synopsis, thanks

I'm a teacher and see these personality disorders come from a toxic stew of bad parenting, neighborhood environment, genetics and crappy food/water/air----take your pick of combinations. Children need our help while the repuke Congress is having another Hillary-Should-Be-Indicted witch hunt and allowing all kinds of military hardware to be sold in the ME, which will as always get into the wrong hands.

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Response to Skittles (Reply #53)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 10:58 AM

96. Narcissistic Personality Disorder, just like Trump

According to the DSM-5, individuals with NPD have most or all of the following symptoms, typically without commensurate qualities or accomplishments:

* Grandiosity with expectations of superior treatment from others

* Fixated on fantasies of power, success, intelligence, attractiveness, etc.

* Self-perception of being unique, superior and associated with high-status people and institutions

* Needing constant admiration from others

* Sense of entitlement to special treatment and to obedience from others

* Exploitative of others to achieve personal gain

* Unwilling to empathize with others' feelings, wishes, or needs

* Intensely jealous of others and the belief that others are equally jealous of them

* Pompous and arrogant demeanor

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder

The main difference between sociopaths and narcissists is that narcissists have occasional crashes of self-esteem, during which they can experience empathy for others and deep regret for the things they have done. Then, once self-esteem is regained, they go on to believe their own bullshit and invariably refuse further treatment.

That's why Bush had to spend two years of his Presidency on vacation, where "fluffers" rebuilt his dumb ass, time and again.

Being out of the limelight, and more importantly, being told time and again to stay the fuck away because he's such an embarrassment, has surely crushed his self esteem and probably led to years of tortuous regret, every moment of which he deeply deserves.

Trump would be the exact same kind of President. They are virtually the same person, though Trump seems slightly less stupid.

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Response to Chemisse (Reply #26)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 09:51 PM

33. She should have taken the girls and left

Him decades ago. No reason why she can't go now, I bet.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #33)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 08:11 AM

86. it's the bush family...

as long as barb and poppy are still alive, such an action would be hazardous to ones health.

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Response to Chemisse (Reply #26)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 02:24 PM

112. that is true but my mom (RIP) never did anything like that

Mom had Alz. and I was her caregiver/case manager for 6 yrs. When she was in a crowd she was very well behaved until she got to the very late stage. And her face was never bright red like Bushie's. He may be demented but this looks like * was high as a kite.

First thing my neighbor said when she told me about it. She's a recovered alcoholic.

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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 09:08 PM

27. His wife Barbara????

Who wrote this claptrap anyway? Yeah, Dubya is a jackass and always has been, but if the writer can't even get Laura's name right then they've already lost credibility.

Having said that, he looks like a real jackass. That isn't "swaying" that he's doing. His behavior is inappropriate. Period. But then he's noted for his inappropriate behavior.

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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 09:17 PM

29. at one point, it looks like FLOTUS is literally having to keep him from falling over.

and that sick, inappropriate grin.

you know, I truly hope that it is acknowledged that he has dementia or something. at least that would be a non-disgusting reason for his disgusting behaviour.

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Response to niyad (Reply #29)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 02:45 PM

115. this is not dementia, this is drinking with the red face

First, I am an expert in dementia, Alzheimer's variety. I took care of my mom for 6 yrs., had her in programs, in public, living at home with caregivers, living at a care facility. I read about it and consulted experts, etc. Georgie Boy is not acting like someone w/dementia. In general, these people are confused and thus can get angry, wail or yell loudly and so on. If they do this enough to disturb the neighbors, they are medicated with tranquilizers. They are mostly in their later years and when agitated, they don't get up and dance and laugh. They are mostly elderly, sedate, quiet or if agitated, can get angry and loudly confused. Doing a jovial jig in public is not the norm.

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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 09:44 PM

32. Anybody watching the new TV show "Braindead"? It explains everything.

Alien screwworms are eating people's brains.

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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 10:10 PM

36. When following the link...

The video immediately after the one about Bush was just as cringeworthy. Guy kneeling in front of a memorial to the officers killed in Dallas and shouting a "prayer" at the absolute top of his lungs, and just rambling on and on.

From the disjointed nature, I'd kinda wonder about his mental health. And if he's mentally stable (dubious, I know...) maybe someone ought to clue him in on what Christ had to say about praying in the street versus praying in one's closet. The rest of us would appreciate it.

Regarding the one of Bush, at first I was like "He's kinda swaying back and forth a bit..." and I didn't quite see what everyone was getting worked up about. Then for the last few seconds when he seems to march in place, then it made a bit more sense. Maybe my eyes are bad, but I don't see the great big grin some people are referring to. Either way, the marching at the end just made it cringeworthy all on its own.

No wonder he's kept such a low profile. I imagine that's less his decision and more Laura's, if he can be relied upon to behave like that in public, no matter the occasion.

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Response to Sand Rat Expat (Reply #36)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 10:20 PM

39. It's democratic underground. Anything George W. Bush is going to get people breathing fire.

Rationality goes out the window when emotions get charged.

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Response to PoliticalMalcontent (Reply #39)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 01:26 AM

66. Very true.

I've often thought that Christ Himself could come down from the heavens, put His hand on Barack Obama's shoulder, and proclaim in a ringing tone, "This guy is really awesome. Seriously you guys, I'm a fan" and the right wingers would still carry on with their ODS nonsense.

Guess the same principle applies. I thought Bush was an absolute disaster as a President, but I'll confine my criticisms of him to the realm of reason. If he does something I genuinely admire, I'll give him credit for it. It won't expiate his failures and shortcomings, but give credit where it's due.

I've always held to the idea that progressives ought to be rational and, at least as far as is possible, objective. Go where the facts and the logic lead you, regardless of how you feel about the situation in question. Getting all riled up and letting anger, hate, fear, or whatever drive your decision-making ought to be eschewed as the province of the right.

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Response to PoliticalMalcontent (Reply #39)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 06:43 AM

73. I didn't think it was that big of a deal.

I think he was just reacting to the Battle Hymn of the Republic which is a really stirring number. I don't think he was trying to be disrespectful.

It was inappropriate. Kind of like he forgot where he was.

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Response to Sand Rat Expat (Reply #36)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 10:45 PM

41. He grins and he also playfully shoulder bumps both Laura and Michelle.

In fact, he is acting just like the teasing kid who tries to clown around enough to get his brother or sister to giggle in church.

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #41)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 12:08 AM

52. It's a no-brainer. George was three sheets to the wind today.

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #41)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 01:20 AM

64. Again, just saying what I see.

To me, a grin is a large smile that puts a lot of teeth on display. Maybe my eyes aren't as great as some or the video quality isn't as great as it might be, but I'm not seeing what I consider a grin. I'll rewatch the video and focus just on his mouth, and maybe I'll see what you're referring to. But from my memory of my first viewing, just not seeing a grin.

And as I said, up until that little marching-in-place thing at the end, I didn't see anything that struck me as out-and-out awful. To my eyes, he was swaying back and forth as people sometimes do when singing and/or listening to music. But the bit at the end was over the top, and inappropriate given the solemnity of the occasion.

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Response to Sand Rat Expat (Reply #36)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 02:48 PM

116. the phrase "inappropriate to the max" comes to mind

get yer glasses fixed

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Response to wordpix (Reply #116)

Sat Jul 16, 2016, 05:32 AM

129. You'll notice I said the bit at the end was cringeworthy.

The higher quality images posted also make it a lot easier to see. Based on the video, I wasn't seeing a grin, just the peculiar ditty-bop business at the end.

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Response to Sand Rat Expat (Reply #36)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 11:50 PM

122. Here is "the great big grin"some people are referring to:



This is also an unfortunate look:

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #122)

Sat Jul 16, 2016, 05:30 AM

128. Fair enough, that's a grin.

I'm... less than certain what that other expression is, though. Judging by the look of his cheeks and nose, I think we can safely say he's hitting the bottle pretty hard.

What an assclown.

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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 10:18 PM

38. I think it's kinda funny how in the latter part of that video the president looks over toward him

And joins in a little with the swaying and singing... perhaps out of pity?

I don't know what goes through Bush's head. I have a hard time being angry with him this far out of his tenure as president. It doesn't seem like he ever did things maliciously. It seems like he was just a puppet for Rumsfeld and Chaney. Does that absolve him fully? No. But... He's just so aloof as to portray a picture of someone who isn't all their mentally. I'm more upset with the people who manipulated his position, and elected him a second time.

His aloofness could come off as personability at times though. The dude looks like he's enjoying himself, which I'm sure made it easier for people to relate to him and therefore more likely to vote for him. People aren't smart.

For clarification, I was a LOT more pissed years ago, but 8 years of not having his dumb ass in office can heal a lot of bad feelings, even if a lot of the bad that he caused is still felt today (Wars, Patriot act, etc). Realizing Rumsfeld actually pushed Bible scripture into Bush's daily Iraq briefings... that's like some sort of subtle mind control tactics, especially if Bush is an ardent scripture believer... So fuck Rumsfeld. More blame goes to him in my book, even if the buck ultimately stopped with Bush.

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Response to PoliticalMalcontent (Reply #38)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 12:11 AM

54. I will despise that lying, warmongering bastard until the end of my days

he makes me sick, always will

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Response to Skittles (Reply #54)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 12:32 AM

57. I thought I would too.

Too many other things to hate, I suppose. Too many present day problems to deal with.

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Response to PoliticalMalcontent (Reply #57)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 12:36 AM

58. Bush's horrific legacy will last for decades

Thursday in Dallas was probably part of it

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Response to Skittles (Reply #58)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 12:46 AM

62. I don't know. Seems like you're going out on quite the limb there.

Did George Bush ever do anything to promote racism? If anything Bill Clinton's 'getting tough on crime' laws of the 90's which garnered bi-partisan support did more to foster racial profiling than anything Bush did in office.

I don't want to be in a position of defending Bush. I raged when the dude got re-elected. I've just been in a place lately where I've been trying to clear my mind of biases as much as possible. Part of that is getting rid of any inconsistent thinking I find in my processes... and frankly it just seems hard to hate the puppet. Much easier to blame the puppeteer in these situations (to me).

So... How do you feel that Bush had anything to do with what happened in Dallas? Perhaps I can reassess my beliefs with additional information. Or... perhaps you can think it over and realize perhaps you maybe misspoke.

This isn't Rick Perry talking about his family compound. George Bush was pre-Obama when racists were much more closeted. The Obama presidency brought out the worst in people because republicans used fear tactics.

(The only thing I can think of off the top of my head that even remotely smacks of racism regarding George Bush is Karl Rove starting a whisper campaign about John McCain's daughter, but again, that was Karl Rove, and not Bush).

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Response to PoliticalMalcontent (Reply #62)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 04:13 AM

68. ...

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/dallas-micah-johnson-family-military-service-army-afghanistan/

I should not have to explain that Dubya is warmongering chickenhawk and - did you FORGET his pathetic response to Hurricane KATRINA?

over and *OUT*

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Response to Skittles (Reply #68)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 09:26 AM

92. Mic Drop. nt

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Response to PoliticalMalcontent (Reply #57)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 09:01 AM

88. much of which george* made possible.

he* can rot in hell because of that.

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Response to PoliticalMalcontent (Reply #38)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 02:52 PM

117. Bush was a dufus doing Cheney/Rumsfeld's orders but the buck did stop with *

He was the one who signs orders and such. He either didn't care what he was signing b/c he was enjoying the job doing nothing presidential, or he trusted the others and went along. Or both

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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 10:41 PM

40. I think we can figure out why he has kept such a low profile since leaving the WH.

It probably takes a while to dry him out enough, and even then his handlers never know how he will act.

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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 10:51 PM

42. wow he might have Aspbergers

 

He is not aware of what is socially acceptable and what is not.

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Response to youceyec (Reply #42)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 12:21 PM

98. Aspergers does not show up at 70

But you are right that he does not seem to have a clue regarding socially acceptable behavior. Alcohol and drugs can do that to a mind.

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Response to youceyec (Reply #42)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 02:54 PM

118. agree with you adding, "on meds for a condition"

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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 11:09 PM

44. Around 2002, was a psychologist or psychiatrist who noted that Bush's speach pattern was indicitive

 

of the onset of dementia. I recall it as having been posted on this site.

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Response to Hoppy (Reply #44)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 02:56 PM

119. I don't doubt that a regular drinker gets dementia but

he is in his early stage to be able to read that speech. My mother could not have done that six months after her Alzheimer's diagnosis.

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Response to wordpix (Reply #119)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 05:18 PM

121. Understand that there are many reasons for demintia. Alzheimers is only one.

 

Alzheimers is diagnosable only after autopsy. It seems to have a two or three year span before death.

My mother has been in dementia unit of V.A. for 8 years. Baring heart attack or cancer, she likely has another two or three years of life to go.

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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 11:23 PM

46. he did have Lyme disease--if you listen to his early 90s speeches the contrast is incredible

It's not like he was an intellectual or moral giant, but he _could_ actually speak in complete sentences and seemed to know where he was in space and time. I think the Lyme accelerated his decline.

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Response to zazen (Reply #46)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 12:36 AM

59. Interesting.

Thanks for posting.

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Response to zazen (Reply #46)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 07:06 AM

76. I have a friend with Lyme's. He's probably going to only live a few more years.

If Dubya had it, I don't know if he'd still be with us today.

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Response to Bucky (Reply #76)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 09:32 AM

93. W definitely had it--its effects are highly variable, though underestimated by IDSA.

Sorry about your friend. Lyme is a scourge and its treatment has gotten caught up in the worst of ego-driven insider academic medicine politics. That said, it really is difficult to know what is chronic Lyme or what may have been triggered by Lyme (certain lines of thought now are that it messes with the gut micro biome--which is hard to tease out from the antibiotic treatment too--and that this sets of different cascades of side effects depending on one's genome).

Seriously--Google it. Pre and post Lyme Bush are incredible. I've known plenty of addicts and they don't deteriorate mentally that way. I mean, he's an entitled idiot anyway and presumably drinking again, but even Boehner could string together sentences and he was sloshed pretty regularly.

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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 11:30 PM

48. Did he fall off the wagon again?

That behavior reminds me of someone who has had one or two too many.

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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 12:29 AM

56. Truly awkward. He seems to be an overgrown child. n/t

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Response to Judi Lynn (Reply #56)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 12:37 AM

60. he seemed that way when he was "president", too

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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 12:42 AM

61. if the antics of that clown, and the chaos he creatd throughout the world scares you...

just wit and see what happens if this next election was rigged like 2000 and 2004.

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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 12:49 AM

63. Is he back on the sauce?

That's the first thing I thought when I saw the video.

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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 02:52 AM

67. Maybe he did not know why he was there, thought it was a party.

 

I'm being serious.

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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 04:42 AM

69. Anyone remember this?



And fortunately, the writer of the article at the link (an Australian news outlet) corrected the text to indicate his actual wife's name instead of his mother's!

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #69)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 02:20 PM

111. he's done so many creepy things

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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 04:52 AM

70. Drunk. nt

 

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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 06:31 AM

71. Drunk and or an asshole

n/t

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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 06:39 AM

72. Twitter people are lucky they have tiny pics. Bush was flooded with exaggerated euphoria.

I think wife Barbara had to squeeze his hand to wipe the grin off his face and keep his happy-feet on the ground.

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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 07:02 AM

75. "Wife Barbara"?

That should be Laura, right? Dubya does a lot of things wrong, but I'm pretty sure marrying his mom isn't among those sins

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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 07:31 AM

78. Sociopathic Responses from Real Sociopaths

How a Sociopath Responds

Dealing with a Sociopath can be extremely frustrating. Because they lack basic emotional components and are typically quite narcissistic, the responses and reactions they have to everyday events can at times seem very odd and quite inappropriate to the rest of us. If you understand their thought process at its very basic level, you can better understand why they respond the way they do. You’ll never be able to rationalize how they act, but you might at least be able to gain a slight understanding of how a sociopath may respond in the future. As you will see in the following scenarios, a sociopathic response will typically be about them—never the actual situation. Baffling to the rest of us as it is, it is simply the way they are wired. Unfortunately, the following situations are real. They are written exactly as they occurred. *PLEASE NOTE* This article is not intended as a method to diagnose an individual as being sociopathic. It is intended to show some very typical response patterns from real individuals who have been diagnosed as sociopaths. Only a professional can and should actually diagnose a sociopath. Many normal, healthy, mentally sound individuals will have some of these reactions some of the time. This article is part of a larger series on articles detailing common behaviors and reactions of individuals who fit the diagnostic criteria for an individual considered Sociopathic. An individual can also have "sociopathic tendencies", which would inidicate that they exhibit sociopathic traits on a consistent basis, but not enough to be diagnosed as a Sociopath. Those with sociopathic tendencies are not sociopaths in the diagnostic sense, but may have other disorders that should be taken into consideration.

http://hubpages.com/health/True-Sociopath-Responses-Its-All-About-Me


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or he was just drunk as usual.

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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 07:34 AM

79. look at laura...

she seems very uncomfortable as if "george is having one of his poorly timed "feelings" moment.

I honestly believe she suffers from battered wife syndrome.

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Response to Javaman (Reply #79)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 07:37 AM

81. Whether battered or not, she suffers.

I've always felt sorry for her: the good little wife who has to stand by and watch her husband destroy the world.

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Response to Chemisse (Reply #81)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 07:41 AM

82. I feel sorry for her after the fact.

but not because she married him. I think she's just as much an opportunist as george* is.

However, I think it was only after she married him that she understood the full awesome power of the bush family dynamic and how truly fucked up it is. And there was no way in hell they were going to allow her to divorce him* without her suffering from some unfortunate "accident".

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Response to Javaman (Reply #82)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 07:45 AM

84. She comes from an age and culture of 'stand by your man.'

So I don't blame her too much for standing by and watching it all happen without speaking out.

I just hope she has enough money now to hire a staff to watch over Georgie boy - clearly a full-time job.

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Response to Chemisse (Reply #84)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 08:59 AM

87. True, but I think it's more the family dynamic.

I had an Aunt bounce my uncle in 1965. It was very hard for her, while not my mom's sister, my mom always supported her and stayed her friend, in-spite of my dad's continued insistence that she don't.

I think Laura was a social climber and in the beginning enjoyed "the life" of being married to a connected family.

but much like a onion, you only see the skin when you first buy it, you have no idea the amount of layers are in one.

as time wore on, and she had children, she became as much a part of the family as any of the others. I'm sure there was certainly a point in she and georges* relationship that hit that moment of realization of how truly screwed up the family is, but by that point, she was so invested, both emotionally, financially, and socially, that for her to leave would have been "detrimental" to her health. Meaning, poppy and control freak barb wouldn't have liked that very much.

After failing at several businesses but still landing back on his feet via poppy's influence, georges* star began to rise with his construction of the Angels baseball stadium (there was a great article about how he totally screwed over the people who owned the land it was built on (big surprise) in the Austin Chronicle several years ago), then him becoming governor. As the saying goes, if you fail at everything else, run for office. And so he did. Laura, played the dutiful Governors wife. She was pretty much innocuous during his* reign of terror but she did have her pet projects.

However, no one runs for the president of the United States unless they have an equally ambitious spouse to support them.

I think at that point, Laura was in it for the glory. She became, or perhaps always was, a media hound just as much as he* was to get him* into office.

Laura, the former Democrat, saw opportunity and dove right in and ran with it.

And what was that opportunity? To live in the same house as george* without having to deal with him directly anymore.

I think at this point, given georges* rumored history of substance abuse with coke, she had enough and needed a break from his ranting and raving. But sadly that wasn't the case.

It became readily apparent that while "those who fail at everything become politicians' he was also failing at being president as well. And once again, the substance abuse kicked in.

Laura, might be "standing by her man"type, but I think think she was actually biding her time until he was out of office.

His* presidency resulting in the true failure that it was, Laura, thought she could finally have the peace and quiet she probably always wanted, but in reality, that peace and quiet became georges* liability.

The failed president* still has to be propped up and marched out on occasion for appearance purposes.

And the "stand by your man" became Laura's millstone around her neck.

I can't predict what she thinks, but I think she loves her kids but often, during times, of him* making a fool of himself*, she ponders the concept of alternate realities.

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Response to Javaman (Reply #87)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 09:17 AM

90. You may be right.

About her personal ambitions, and about the difficulty of getting out of a marriage within a powerful family.

It may be that now she has little to do with him, other than those embarrassing public appearances.

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Response to Chemisse (Reply #90)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 09:20 AM

91. I look at the bush family like the mafia.

just when you think you are out! they suck you back in. lol

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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 10:02 AM

95. He probably had four or five shots before appearing in public

that'll get those happy feet going every time.

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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 11:03 AM

97. If the black man in the White House were to ever do something like this, people would be yelling for

 

him to be impeached. This is despicable behavior!

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Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Reply #97)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 02:58 PM

120. yes, it's a high crime if it's a Dem, pun intended

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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 12:41 PM

99. I will dance ...

... when GW Bush is in an orange jumpsuit on the incarcerated side of prison bars.

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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 12:53 PM

100. We can always count on him

to embarrass himself.

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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Wed Jul 13, 2016, 02:29 PM

113. I JUST watched the video!

 

OMG. It's like he has dementia. His wife was solo embarrassed. And the quizzically expression half way thru from Michelle Obama was priceless.

lol

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Response to uawchild (Reply #113)

Sat Jul 16, 2016, 06:03 AM

130. yeah, it seems like there's something truly missing there.

The standard line about guys like that is - well, he's not an intellectual, but he's got "emotional intelligence". Not W. He doesn't seem to have a CLUE about people, either.
He's clueless in every sphere.
(Ah, darn- the image of the incident when he tried to massage Angela Merkel's shoulders at an international forum just popped into my head again, and I can't seem to dislodge it from my brain. . . Not a good way to start my day, before I've even had breakfast )

He's just a very, very small and mediocre person.

Even knowing all that, his cheerful swaying during a solemn hymn for a solemn funeral. . really mind-boggling.

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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Thu Jul 14, 2016, 08:42 AM

123. I just had a truly vomit worthy moment reading the support from

DU members in this post. It makes me wonder if an age verification should be implemented as it is obvious some posters could only be 8 years old or less. Although the alien brain worms would explain a lot.

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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Thu Jul 14, 2016, 07:09 PM

124. White privilege

On full display. Disgusting.....

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Response to Tactical Peek (Original post)

Fri Jul 15, 2016, 06:06 PM

125. Why was he there again?

Seems like they have been letting him out in public more recently. I guess they want to remind us all of how incredibly incompetent the GOP is at running government? And GWB was a f'ing genius compared to Trump

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Response to wildeyed (Reply #125)

Fri Jul 15, 2016, 06:31 PM

126. Because it was in Texas? N/t

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Response to TexasBushwhacker (Reply #126)

Fri Jul 15, 2016, 09:08 PM

127. They should have waited until after rehab. n/t

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