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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Sat Jul 16, 2016, 12:38 PM Jul 2016

Clinton campaign: Pence 'most extreme' VP pick in generation

Source: MSN/USA Today

Donald Trump has “doubled down” on “his most disturbing beliefs” by picking Indiana Gov. Mike Pence as his vice presidential running mate, said Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta.In a statement, Podesta called Pence the “most extreme” vice presidential pick in a generation.

According to the statement, Podesta said that Pence: was an early supporter of the Tea Party; “personally spearheaded” a religious liberty bill that “legalized discrimination” against gays and lesbians (which he later revised); and he was a leader in the effort to defund Planned Parenthood as a member of the U.S. House.

Podesta called Pence an “incredibly divisive and unpopular running mate known for supporting discriminatory politics and failed economic policies that favor millionaires and corporations over working families.”

He also cited Pence’s opposition to raising the federal minimum wage and a statistic that incomes in Indiana are stalled at 38th in the nation, calling him “no economic leader or friend to the American worker.”

Read more: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/clinton-campaign-pence-most-extreme-vp-pick-in-generation/ar-BBunelY?li=BBnb7Kz



The question is that do issues really even matter? So, what if Trump/Pence would favor huge tax cuts, appoint right wing judges and deny climate change, and be hostile to women and minorities? Isn't the main issue that affects people's lives whether a sixty plus politician understands proper IT protocols with respect to the handling of e-mails?

Personally, I don't know where everyone else works, but I find the division managers at my warehouse to be the most knowledgeable with respect to the handling of e-mails and proper server maintenance, which is what I look for in a President.
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Clinton campaign: Pence 'most extreme' VP pick in generation (Original Post) TomCADem Jul 2016 OP
IMO Gingrich or Christie would have been even more extreme groundloop Jul 2016 #1
I know. Not sure what Hillary is getting at yeoman6987 Jul 2016 #4
Talk to a staff member about what? Was Trump supposed to be praised for his pick? Kingofalldems Jul 2016 #15
Newt & Christie are now history. Correct to attack Pence. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #18
I get it.. agingdem Jul 2016 #7
yup LiberalLovinLug Jul 2016 #17
Where I work all email belongs to the organization greymattermom Jul 2016 #2
Cough. . .cough. . .Cheney. . .cough, cough. . .but he likes you, HRC Feeling the Bern Jul 2016 #3
While he is extreme, does he beat Sarah Palin or Dick Cheney? karynnj Jul 2016 #5
Palin without the charisma; Cheney without the toothy grin. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #11
Confused Democrat says, "what?" Android3.14 Jul 2016 #6
Liberals from Indiana know that Pence is every bit as bad as Palin and Cheney. Tobin S. Jul 2016 #8
Most extreme in a generation? apcalc Jul 2016 #9
Reagan Would Be Considered a Sell outReaga TomCADem Jul 2016 #10
Pence sold out on immigration. Completely reversed himself to be penetrated by Trump. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #13
Believe him when he says he's Christian 1st, Conserv. 2nd, Republican 3rd. 'American' not on list. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #12
K&R red dog 1 Jul 2016 #14
Republican voters: You will be Conned, Trumped, and Pencetrated. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #16

groundloop

(11,518 posts)
1. IMO Gingrich or Christie would have been even more extreme
Sat Jul 16, 2016, 12:47 PM
Jul 2016

In any case we've got plenty of ammo against tRump and Pence (TP ).
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
4. I know. Not sure what Hillary is getting at
Sat Jul 16, 2016, 01:00 PM
Jul 2016

Newt and Christie would be a help to Trump. Pence is not going to help at all. Hillary HOPEFULLY had a staffer write that up. Hillary will talk to said staffer ASAP.

Kingofalldems

(38,451 posts)
15. Talk to a staff member about what? Was Trump supposed to be praised for his pick?
Sat Jul 16, 2016, 03:01 PM
Jul 2016

Looks like a veiled attack on our nominee from here.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
18. Newt & Christie are now history. Correct to attack Pence.
Sat Jul 16, 2016, 03:21 PM
Jul 2016

Hillary does not need to over-write stuff with inside-baseball wonky punditry.

Trump propped Pence up. Hillary (and her staff) are obviously correct to attack the empty suit Pence.

agingdem

(7,845 posts)
7. I get it..
Sat Jul 16, 2016, 01:21 PM
Jul 2016


Gingrich and Christie are not religious zealots...Pence is. He's the whole scary package.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
17. yup
Sat Jul 16, 2016, 03:14 PM
Jul 2016

A True Believer is always more dangerous than a Con Man. Because a con man, like Newt or Christie, will sometimes at least go off the straight an narrow for political opportunism or money. Like Christie welcoming Obama's help for Sandy, or Newt siding with global warming scientists. They will "evolve" on issues if they think it will get them elected, even if they are considered "liberal" positions.

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
2. Where I work all email belongs to the organization
Sat Jul 16, 2016, 12:47 PM
Jul 2016

so I leave it to them to figure out what they want to do with it. Just don't email me at my work email address. It's not mine to say what anyone does with it.

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
5. While he is extreme, does he beat Sarah Palin or Dick Cheney?
Sat Jul 16, 2016, 01:11 PM
Jul 2016

Remember Cheney as congressman had voted against honoring Nelson Mandela and against the school lunch program.

It is interesting that growing up in Southern Indiana, he started with heroes of JFK and MLK jr. He was born in 1959, but he said he was moved by Ronald Reagan. This means he never voted for the Democrat in a Presidential election - as he was in high school and under 18 in 1976. (The county was consistently Republican going back to 1968 - http://www.homefacts.com/politics/Indiana/Bartholomew-County/Columbus.html. Unfortunately the source goes back only to 1964, which was a landslide - but it was very comfortably Republican long before Reagan. In fact, at least since he was 9 years old (1968).

From his bio, he was born into a family of Irish Catholic Democrats, but his religion is listed as evangelical -- and his policies seem to reflect evangelical values (very conservative) rather than Catholicism - especially Pope Francis Catholicism. (Note obviously, I am not speaking of abortion or gay rights here, but that Catholicism has strong values of social welfare.)

He is as extreme as Palin on climate change.

It likely is true that he is MORE dangerous than Palin as he is not as easily written off as she was -- even though he is very extreme.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
6. Confused Democrat says, "what?"
Sat Jul 16, 2016, 01:11 PM
Jul 2016

Cheney? Palin?
Well, I suppose hyperbole is the language of politics.

Tobin S.

(10,418 posts)
8. Liberals from Indiana know that Pence is every bit as bad as Palin and Cheney.
Sat Jul 16, 2016, 01:23 PM
Jul 2016

He shares their ass backwards views, he's good buddies with the Kochs, and packages it all in a veneer of sanity that Palin clearly couldn't muster and Cheney didn't even try. Trump supporters will buy right into it, "Hey, he's the straight man of the duo."

apcalc

(4,463 posts)
9. Most extreme in a generation?
Sat Jul 16, 2016, 01:38 PM
Jul 2016

Who was ever more extreme?
Reagan? Palin?

I think Pence is the quite extreme.

Who has been more extreme? George Wallace.
Strom Thurmond.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
10. Reagan Would Be Considered a Sell outReaga
Sat Jul 16, 2016, 02:15 PM
Jul 2016

Reagan signed CEQA as a CA governor and he approved some tax increases as President.

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