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Judi Lynn

(160,516 posts)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:41 AM Jul 2016

Family fears for autistic man's safety after police shooting

Source: Associated Press

Family fears for autistic man's safety after police shooting

Updated 7:12 pm, Saturday, July 23, 2016

MIAMI (AP) — The autistic man who was the intended target of a police bullet is suffering from emotional distress, not eating and traumatized following the shooting of his caretaker.

Arnaldo Rios' mother, Gladys Soto, said during a Saturday news conference that she is worried about the safety of her son, who wandered back to the site of the Monday shooting a day later, threw himself on the ground and shouted: "I hate the police, I hate the police," The Miami Herald (http://hrld.us/2a6i7OP) reported Saturday.

"It's too emotional to see your baby caught up in something like this," Soto said. Miriam Soto said her brother is suffering from night terrors and is not sleeping or eating.

"He's not the same anymore," Miriam Soto said of her brother.

Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/crime/article/Family-fears-for-autistic-man-s-safety-following-8405245.php

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Family fears for autistic man's safety after police shooting (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jul 2016 OP
Perhaps the wannabe murderous thug cop should be subject to civil asset forfeiture strategery blunder Jul 2016 #1
To be fair the cop might have just shot the guy by accident and yes it's very cstanleytech Jul 2016 #3
Yeah, and then accidentally handcuffed him...and accidentally waited 20 mins... ret5hd Jul 2016 #5
Each if those are separate issues but the shooting itself of the cstanleytech Jul 2016 #9
What would be your first instinct if you accidentally gravely harmed somebody? ret5hd Jul 2016 #10
Of course he is guilty of the shooting because he did do it of that there isnt any debate that cstanleytech Jul 2016 #17
Distraction, etc explains absolutely nothing of his next actions. nt ret5hd Jul 2016 #18
As I said that is a separate issue. cstanleytech Jul 2016 #19
In a situation like that the people involved rarely notice the other things going on around them Dustlawyer Jul 2016 #11
Not true gopiscrap Jul 2016 #14
They need to get him to a psychiatrist Ilsa Jul 2016 #2
He was with a therapist at the shooting. the therapist got shot! marble falls Jul 2016 #4
From what I read, the victim was not a therapist, but an aide that Ilsa Jul 2016 #6
Right now he is in the psychiatric wing of the hospital. LisaL Jul 2016 #7
I edited my post that you replied to for a correction and addition. Ilsa Jul 2016 #8
The man was trying to tell the cops he was a behavioral therapist when they told him to Dustlawyer Jul 2016 #12
Thanks. I had read the initial reports, but not the latest. Ilsa Jul 2016 #13
It was the therapist who was shot, not his patient, thought the cop now says he was trying Dustlawyer Jul 2016 #15
Regardless of his excuse he clearly should not be allowed near a gun ever again imo. nt cstanleytech Jul 2016 #20
Don't read the comments section. Feeling the Bern Jul 2016 #16
Must have been some moderation from the Houston Chronicle cannabis_flower Jul 2016 #21

strategery blunder

(4,225 posts)
1. Perhaps the wannabe murderous thug cop should be subject to civil asset forfeiture
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:48 AM
Jul 2016

What's good for the goose is good for the gander and all that.

Don't make the taxpayers pay, make the criminal cops themselves pay.

Yes indeedy

cstanleytech

(26,281 posts)
3. To be fair the cop might have just shot the guy by accident and yes it's very
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 07:41 AM
Jul 2016

possible to do such a thing.
That aside he still needs to be charged with assault at the very least if not attempted murder and he should be fired with the loss of all benefits.

ret5hd

(20,491 posts)
5. Yeah, and then accidentally handcuffed him...and accidentally waited 20 mins...
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 08:26 AM
Jul 2016

to call an ambulance!

I really hate it when I do that!

cstanleytech

(26,281 posts)
9. Each if those are separate issues but the shooting itself of the
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:09 AM
Jul 2016

the gun which I am only addressing at this moment could and probably was done without thought and without malice, that doesn't mean the officer should not be punished severely but it's the most likely reason for the shooting.
I say this because the guy shot clearly was no threat and had his hands visible raised up plus there were other officers present as well as civilians filming it so no cop is going to be stupid enough to deliberately shoot and unarmed suspect when they know for a fact that it's being filmed, not given the recent news over other police shootings.

ret5hd

(20,491 posts)
10. What would be your first instinct if you accidentally gravely harmed somebody?
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:20 AM
Jul 2016

In ANY circumstance...shooting, car wreck, construction work, anything?

I know my first instinct would be to tie their hands using anything I had available...rope, zip-ties, heck, handcuffs would be ideal! (That's why I always carry a pair in my first aid kit, and you should too!) To do otherwise would imply guilt, right?

cstanleytech

(26,281 posts)
17. Of course he is guilty of the shooting because he did do it of that there isnt any debate that
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:04 AM
Jul 2016

he was negligent and should held accountable I am merely pointing on that it might not have been a deliberate premeditated act rather he could have simply pulled it because he got distracted and didnt realize it until it was to late.
For example, about 3 years ago when my mother was in the hospital before she died it was a rough time for me and I was going down to the hospital to see her every day atleast for an hour and because of the stress I ran probably atleast 4 stop signs during that period and 2 or 3 red lights and I consider myself a safe drive usually as under normal circumstances I do a complete stop at every sign and I almost never speed unlike many of the idiots in my area who think its ok to 80 in a 55.
So ya, stress can really screw someones head up.

cstanleytech

(26,281 posts)
19. As I said that is a separate issue.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:09 AM
Jul 2016

At a guess though he was trying to buy time to think of an excuse to cover his ass because he knows he is fucked.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
11. In a situation like that the people involved rarely notice the other things going on around them
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:51 AM
Jul 2016

until the crisis is over. This cop has had weapons training over and over. Why was his finger on the trigger unless he intended to shoot?

Why did he tell the victim he didn't know why he shot him and a couple of days later say he was intending to shoot an unthreatening young man? I am sure he could see what was in his hand through his rifle scope. There were several times you could see him hold the truck out to look at it.

gopiscrap

(23,756 posts)
14. Not true
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:04 AM
Jul 2016

most cops feel they can get away with anything. Shoot first and then the city's lawyers and police guild lawyers twist words and images to get you out of it!

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
2. They need to get him to a psychiatrist
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 06:46 AM
Jul 2016

Who will help him with his trauma.

Poor man. And sympathy to his family, too.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
6. From what I read, the victim was not a therapist, but an aide that
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 08:42 AM
Jul 2016

Has special training in ABA to effectively work with autistic people. Besides, even if the shooting victim is a pschiatrist or psychologist, they shouldn't be working on this particular problem with the autistic man. It's not professionally appropriate.

I suspect he needs a psychiatrist who can medically and cognitively guide him through his trauma.

On edit:
The subsequent reports refer to him as a "therapist", which could also mean speech, occupational, or recreational in the setting of a group home. If he had been a psychiatrist, I think the report would have referred to him as "Doctor".

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
7. Right now he is in the psychiatric wing of the hospital.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 08:48 AM
Jul 2016

Presumably psychiatrists are abound there.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
8. I edited my post that you replied to for a correction and addition.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 08:53 AM
Jul 2016

I'm glad the autist is getting treatment. These types of events, especially with the loud noise of a gunshot, can be terrifying as some autistics have difficulty with the cognitive business of sorting through the details and performing tasks which help process.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
12. The man was trying to tell the cops he was a behavioral therapist when they told him to
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:53 AM
Jul 2016

shut up.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
13. Thanks. I had read the initial reports, but not the latest.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:58 AM
Jul 2016

My point was that the shooting victim couldn't be treated by the therapist who was dealing with him at the time of the shooting, and there are limits as to what behavioral therapists can address.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
15. It was the therapist who was shot, not his patient, thought the cop now says he was trying
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:37 AM
Jul 2016

to hit the autistic patient.

cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
21. Must have been some moderation from the Houston Chronicle
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:33 AM
Jul 2016

because there were only 3 comments and they weren't crazy.

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