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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 08:38 AM Jul 2016

Clinton On Accusations Of Corruption: GOP Has Created ‘Hillary Standard’

Source: Talking Points Memo

By ALLEGRA KIRKLAND Published JULY 25, 2016, 6:41 AM EDT

Hillary Clinton pushed back at the corruption accusations that have clouded her 2016 presidential run in a CBS “60 Minutes” interview on Sunday, saying that she is held to a standard that other politicians are not expected to meet.

“I will take responsibility for any impression or anything I've ever done that people have legitimate questions about,” Clinton said in her first joint interview with running mate Sen. Tim Kaine (D-VA). But Clinton mentioned the “concerted effort” to convince people that her actions were not always above board, saying “I often feel like there's the Hillary standard and then there's the standard for everybody else.”

Asked to elaborate, Clinton said last week’s Republican National Convention saw plenty of the “unfounded, inaccurate, mean-spirited attacks” that she is regularly subjected to.

“I don't want to try to analyze the reasons,” she said. “I see it. I understand it. People are very willing to say things about me, to make accusations about me that are—I don't get upset about them anymore, but they are very regrettable.”

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Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/clinton-corruption-accusations-hillary-standard

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Clinton On Accusations Of Corruption: GOP Has Created ‘Hillary Standard’ (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2016 OP
I'm sure most women understand what standard Hillary is talking about, Tobin S. Jul 2016 #1
This old man understands it madokie Jul 2016 #2
10-4 Tobin S. Jul 2016 #3
The most important madokie Jul 2016 #4
Thanks, madokie, but I'm a guy! :) Tobin S. Jul 2016 #5
if a person is mercuryblues Jul 2016 #6
Right, but they had to give up or look foolish loyalsister Jul 2016 #7
Why is mercuryblues Jul 2016 #9
All Dems should hold themselves to higher standards than republicans are willing to demand loyalsister Jul 2016 #10
they did mercuryblues Jul 2016 #11
I said rules not law loyalsister Jul 2016 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author elleng Jul 2016 #8
The Actual Trump Versus A Caricature of Hillary TomCADem Jul 2016 #13

Tobin S.

(10,418 posts)
1. I'm sure most women understand what standard Hillary is talking about,
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 08:49 AM
Jul 2016

having experienced it themselves. It's time more men understood it, too.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
4. The most important
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 09:10 AM
Jul 2016

people in my life, my world, has always been and always will be Female. From my Mother, my Sisters, my Wife and most of all my Grand daughter. Not to forget my girl Friends in life. You know the kind, Friends. Who will go out of their way to help if need be, who always has a smile when I most need it and who always have and continue to have an ear when I need one of them too.

You want someone of the opposite sex to count thats in your corner, count me. Makes me Proud.

Tobin S.

(10,418 posts)
5. Thanks, madokie, but I'm a guy! :)
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 09:19 AM
Jul 2016

I'm hip to issues that affect women, though, as it sounds like you are as well.

mercuryblues

(14,530 posts)
6. if a person is
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 09:27 AM
Jul 2016

honest with themselves, they will understand it.

I saw the same phenomenon with Obama. Put feet on desk after the inauguration, the RW poutrage. Despite the fact that there is a pic of many presidents doing the same thing. Trip to Africa? Oh no, the "cost" became an issue. Despite his predecessors going on multiple occasions with not a peep. Vacation? an issue. Despite the fact he has taken the least amount of vacations of several Presidents. Play golf? ......You get the drill. It only became an issue when the black man did it.


We will hear about everything that Clinton "should know better" even though the men before her did the same thing.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
7. Right, but they had to give up or look foolish
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 12:17 PM
Jul 2016

because there was never a there there. When important rules (put in place to protect us from the same shit the predecessors did) and designed to ensure our government is transparent were broken and someone is given credit for it- wow! I was critical of secrecy during the Bush admin and I won't accept it without criticism, nor excuses for it from someone I expect to have higher standards without criticism.
She should show integrity admit that people have a valid point and that given her past experience she was trying to be more secretive than a public official should be. THAT would indicate a lesson learned and recognition that we have more of a right to know, than she is entitled to secrecy particularly when working for us. IT's not just that she should know better it's that her values should reflect a higher level of integrity.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
10. All Dems should hold themselves to higher standards than republicans are willing to demand
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 01:16 PM
Jul 2016

from their candidates who show disrespect for us all by trying to hide their interactions.
The rules were put in place because someone else violated our trust in insuring transparency. The rules should especially be followed to the letter when a person disagrees with a republican's choice that skirted the laws on transparency. Not following rules put in place to address the republican disrespect for the public's right to know is holding oneself to a very very low standard. Expecting a pass on it because they did it too is ridiculous.
How far would that argument go if Obama endorsed torture or started wars based on lies? Would any reasonable person give him a break because W did it? I expect better of all Democrats.

mercuryblues

(14,530 posts)
11. they did
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 02:19 PM
Jul 2016

too is not what I said. What others did was not considered illegal, so why is Clinton being held to a higher standard? That includes D's as well.

Just a FYI, the government has retained more emails from Clinton that her 3 predecessors combined. Powell, zilch- he deleted them. Albright and Rice emails are mostly un accessible due to the antiquated system corrupting the files or not being saved properly to begin with.

So why is she being held to a higher standard, when she has produced more emails than anyone?

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
12. I said rules not law
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 02:55 PM
Jul 2016

She broke rules put in place to facilitate a law. It may not be a legal violation but it is a serious ethical issue. That there was a happy accident in her favor does not change the fact that she broke rules and THAT is what matters. She may have produced more than her predecessors, does not mean she did not violate a code of transparency. We have no idea how many she deleted.

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
13. The Actual Trump Versus A Caricature of Hillary
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 02:59 PM
Jul 2016

This is what is amazing. The attacks on Hillary are given far more attention than Hillary's actual words, because Hillary is admittedly very guarded. In contrast, you do not need to even exaggerate Trumps own words.

The false equivalency is astounding.

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