Vermont Delegation - but Not Sanders Personally - to Nominate Clinton

[onehandle]

Source: NBC News

Sources close to Bernie Sanders say there is no plan for him to personally nominate Hillary Clinton tonight.

The expectation, as it stands now, is that the state of Vermont wishes to go last in the Roll Call of States.

At that point, after all the Clinton and Sanders delegate numbers have been announced, the Vermont delegation would nominate Hillary Clinton by unanimous consent.

In effect, that would washout all of the Sanders delegate numbers (after they were announced) and the full convention would unanimously nominate Hillary Clinton.


Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/2016-conventions

[femmocrat]

1. Oh crap. More drama for the MSM to salivate over.

Of course MSNBC has it as "breaking news."

[RandySF]

6. No kidding

The anchor was begging the guest to comment negatively.

[lewebley3]

17. MSM should asking if Trump is bed with Russia: We need hearings! Putin owes Trump money!

[femmocrat]

20. ITA. This should be the big story.

They take the slackers' way out unfortunately.

Seems like some real journalists are looking into it now: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512303865

[avebury]

2. You might want to fix your title in your OP. nt

[yallerdawg]

3. Fix it?

You mean: Senator Sanders (I)?

[lapucelle]

4. It's all good.

This is a tough, tough night for many, heartbreaking for some. Be kind, be compassionate, know their pain, and let it go.

[rateyes]

5. The Vermont delegation will move to make

it unanimous for Hillary.

[femmocrat]

8. That is a good compromise, if that is what it is.

Seems like cooler heads are prevailing today.

[rateyes]

11. He isn't snubbing anybody. He is allowing his

delegates to represent their voters. He is then asking HIS state delegation to move to make it a unanimous vote for Hillary.

Geez. Please, for the sake of not electing Trump, put aside your hatred of Bernie.

You aren't helping Hillary with posts like this.

[Iggo]

18. Word.

[procon]

22. Earlier today the news was reporting that Sanders was going to nominate her.

Negotiations underway for Sanders to officially nominate Clinton

PHILADELPHIA — Negotiations are underway to have Bernie Sanders officially nominate Hillary Clinton for president at the Democratic National Convention on Tuesday night, a move that would further signal party unity.

According to a source familiar with the talks, the Vermont senator would nominate the presumptive Democratic nominee after the roll call vote that will be held on the convention floor.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/289245-negotiations-underway-for-sanders-to-officially-nominate



I thought that was a class act on Sanders part and it would have gone a long way towards uniting the two sides. He was being just as gracious as Hillary was when she made the nomination for Obama. But then something happened at the last minute and suddenly Sanders has backed out. Maybe be feared getting booed and shouted down by his own delegates, I don't know.

Running off and leaving a delegate do his job makes him look weak and indecisive, and it only encourages his supporters to think that he not really backing Hillary and he wants them to continue disrupting the proceedings.

[rateyes]

25. Can you not understand how raw the emotions are

of Bernie's supporters are? Bernie doesn't want to make them go home without having their vote counted. It's a smart move. Geez. Just say, "thanks, Bernie" and move on.

[procon]

35. No, I don't understand. Its politics, not a marriage!

Who are these naive people! Everyone I can think of seems passionate in their political views, but they are still pragmatic, not wedded to any personality. Seriously, if these angst ridden, overwrought Sanders supporters want an emotional outlet, they should find a lover or get a pet, not a politician.

[rateyes]

38. That you don't understand is not surprising.

[Rex]

45. This might be hard to take, but only some folks are pragmatic.

You don't get it, fine just drop it since it seems you missed the point.

[Cosmocat]

34. its a bad idea, and I didn't like it when it first popped up

his supporters are just way too unpredictable, and if they went all Bernie or bust when he did it, it would become the meme after he did his hypnosis on them last night.

[Rex]

46. You really shouldn't broad bush an entire group of people like that.

Both candidates had some very radical supporters, those folks are now marginalized. So we can move on and defeat Trump.

[kestrel91316]

27. Thank you for saying this.

[rateyes]

28. ...

[pangaia]

12. Oh jesus save us...

[Iggo]

16. Keep fighting that primary!

[procon]

23. That only works if Bernie actually suspends his campaign and releases his delegates.

He's just not there, is he?

[riversedge]

29. This is NOT the primary. Sen. Sanders (or his supporters) keep making news (in the present)

[LanternWaste]

26. It's unsurprising that one would find, then focus only on the most negative interpretation of events

It's unsurprising that one would find, then focus only on the most negative interpretation of events without any objective evidence at all supporting it to that effect... regardless of whether you allege a robbery or not.

[FighttheFuture]

41. You're only conning yourself if you think Bernie's positions are not where the Democratic party

should be going.

Thank you Bernie, for all your hard work and sacrifice and tenacity in kicking this Donkey back toward the party of FDR and Jefferson!!!

[geek tragedy]

9. if they go last, Clinton will have already passed the threshold,

so not sure what the point of that would be, other than to feed the angst of those Sanders delegates claiming the system is rigged.

Just have the vote, count them up, and proclaim the winner. The final vote totals are the final vote totals. Indisputable and transparent.

We saw from Nevada how voice votes on motions go.

This seems like a very bad idea.

[bluestateguy]

13. We'll call it the Vermont Compromise

Fine with me.

[George II]

14. Why does Vermont go last? At least the nomination will have already been wrapped up...

...and the celebration will be over and done with.

[onehandle]

15. They asked to go last so that all votes for each candidate would be announced.

I'm sure this was party of deal/strategy with the Sanders Campaign.

[yallerdawg]

19. Vermont could go first.

What Sanders WILL NOT be doing is what Hillary did in 2008:

[riversedge]

31. I get a lump in my throat when I view that video.

[LongtimeAZDem]

32. That would be a real gesture; going last isn't (nt)

[SunSeeker]

36. ^^^THIS^^^

[Cosmocat]

37. I don't know how hard this is to understand

Bernies supporters the convention are flat fucking nuts.

Bernie has worked VERY hard to try to massage them to get them under control.

His speech last night, he literally fought physically as he worked to get them tuned up enough for him to endorse Hillary wo them acting like lunatics.

He HAD to let them vote today, it would be an out and shitfest if he didn't.

And, I thought it was a REALLY bad idea when it floated out that he might be the person who nominated Hillary.

The last moment with him speaking in the convention we have is him SUCCESSULLY endorsing hillary without them acting like idiots.

All his doing the nomination vote today would do is allow a moment for them to act like jackasses in front of the main cameras again, which the media would circle jerk on endlessly moving forward.

[SunSeeker]

42. Sadly, you may have a point about Bernie's convention delegates. nt

[Spitfire of ATJ]

21. There seems to be an effort by the Hillary people to deny Sanders the votes he's earned.

[onehandle]

24. You mean by announcing all of the votes with a full roll call?

Interesting take.

[riversedge]

30. How do you arrive at the conclusion??

[Spitfire of ATJ]

54. Reading comments here, in part....

Also comments of people being interviewed on the TV machine.

A general HORROR that Hillary isn't going to get 100% support. "It could open her up to attacks by Trump about her legitimacy." (As if he wouldn't attack her anyway.)

[christx30]

33. Would the votes he earned

get him the nomination? Would they change anything in the long run? He didn't win the primaries then he needs to step aside and back up Clinton and focus on beating trump.
This coming from a Bernie supporter. I voted for him in the primary. Sent his campaign money.

[SunSeeker]

39. Well said.

Thank you, christx30.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

40. It doesn't hurt Hillary to have Bernies deligate count recorded.

[SunSeeker]

43. It allows the disruptive Bernie delegates a long, drawn out stage for their disrespect and booing.

It delegitimizes Hillary and hurts unity and feeds into Trump's meme about the Dem convention.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

44. You're right, we should storm in on them with clubs....

That'll teach em some unity.

[SunSeeker]

47. No. I see you have nothing constructive to offer. nt

[Spitfire of ATJ]

49. LOL!!! I'm saying everyone should calm down.

[christx30]

50. But would it change the outcome?

Will they find enough votes to unseat Hillary? Will the difference be in historical accounts of the era? "During the 2016 presidential primaries, Vermont Senator got XXXX delegates. Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton got XXXX+72 votes, clinching the nomination. She went onto beat out living troll doll Donald Trump." Or is the difference that won't actually make any difference?
I liked Bernie too. But even he knows when it's time to stop fighting the primaries. Time to rally behind Clinton and crush the troll.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

53. There were Hillary supporters that didn't want his votes recorded.

[JoePhilly]

52. Bwahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!

[democrattotheend]

48. That doesn't make any sense

All of the pledged delegates from Vermont are Bernie delegates. So unless a Hillary superdelegate is going to put her over Vermont can't put her over the top.

The only way I see that working is if Bernie does it himself.

[deathrind]

51. This is a kerfuffel...

Because...?

Sanders is going to let the people he represents vote last and make it a unanimous nomination for HRC for President (as I understand from the news reports) because that is why he is in the job he is in...for the people. If that is not a display of unity than nothing is. It seems like some here will not be satisfied unless Sanders bends a knee and swears fealty to HRC...

[whistler162]

55. Dang a news prophecy that was wrong!

[geardaddy]

56. +1