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uhnope

(6,419 posts)
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 01:24 PM Jul 2016

Belgium Arrests Two Men Suspected Of Planning Attack

Source: RFE/RL

Belgian police have arrested two men suspected of plotting a terrorist attack in the country.

Police arrested the two brothers, identified as Noureddine H. and his brother Hamza H., after a raid late on July 29 in Belgium's French-speaking areas of Mons and Liege.

"Both are suspected of planning a terrorist attack somewhere in Belgium," the federal prosecutor's office said in a statement on July 30.

The office said there was no connection between the men and the Brussels bombings on March 22 that left 32 people dead. Those attacks were claimed by the Islamic State extremist group.

Read more: http://www.rferl.org/content/belgium-arrests-two-men-planning-attack/27889923.html

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Belgium Arrests Two Men Suspected Of Planning Attack (Original Post) uhnope Jul 2016 OP
Radio Free Europe? Isn't that a stated funded propaganda source? uawchild Jul 2016 #1
they publish lots of very nice articles uhnope Jul 2016 #2
"But if anyone needed a reminder of the dangers of domestic propaganda efforts..." uawchild Jul 2016 #3
Here it is on CNN. christx30 Jul 2016 #4
Thanks. I am discussing the source not the article. uawchild Jul 2016 #5
My concern is the article. christx30 Jul 2016 #8
I have made the same argument myself about other sources uawchild Jul 2016 #9
So any comment on the fact that 2 more men have christx30 Jul 2016 #10
Please, after you. uawchild Jul 2016 #13
LOL. Thanks for your "concern." PSPS Jul 2016 #6
thanks for posting MariaThinks Jul 2016 #7
Good news. Quantess Jul 2016 #11
Isn't Belguim really white? Jnclr89 Jul 2016 #12

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
3. "But if anyone needed a reminder of the dangers of domestic propaganda efforts..."
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 01:48 PM
Jul 2016

"But if anyone needed a reminder of the dangers of domestic propaganda efforts, the past 12 months provided ample reasons. Last year, two USA Today journalists were ensnared in a propaganda campaign after reporting about millions of dollars in back taxes owed by the Pentagon’s top propaganda contractor in Afghanistan. Eventually, one of the co-owners of the firm confessed to creating phony websites and Twitter accounts to smear the journalists anonymously. Additionally, just this month, The Washington Post exposed a counter propaganda program by the Pentagon that recommended posting comments on a U.S. website run by a Somali expat with readers opposing Al-Shabaab. “Today, the military is more focused on manipulating news and commentary on the Internet, especially social media, by posting material and images without necessarily claiming ownership,” reported The Post."
http://bangordailynews.com/2013/07/15/news/nation/u-s-repeals-propaganda-ban-spreads-government-made-news-to-americans/

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
5. Thanks. I am discussing the source not the article.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 02:15 PM
Jul 2016

State funded propaganda sources often post good and informative articles amongst their more pointed propaganda. RT, Russia Today, does this often too. The point at hand is the nature of the "news" source itself.

Until 2013, Radio Free Europe was banned in the US as being propaganda. People like Middle East expert Juan Cole voiced their concerns about removing this ban way back in 2012:

Congress Wants the Department of Defense to Propagandize Americans

Two congressmen are attempting to insert a provision in the National Defense Authorization act that would allow the Department of Defense to subject the US domestic public to propaganda. The bipartisan amendment was introduced by Rep. Mac Thornberry from Texas and Rep. Adam Smith from Washington State.

Nothing speaks more urgently to the creeping fascism of American politics than the assertion by our representatives, who apparently have never read a book on Germany in the 1930s-1940s or on the Soviet Union in the Stalin period, that forbidding DoD and the State Department from subjecting us to government propaganda “ties the hands of America’s diplomatic officials, military, and others by inhibiting our ability to effectively communicate in a credible way.” And mind you, they want to use our own money to wash our brains!

As Will Rogers observed, “This country has come to feel the same when Congress is in session as when the baby gets hold of a hammer.”

I love our guys and gals in uniform, but they can be extremely obnoxious in any discussion about US government policy that ‘gets off point’ or ‘doesn’t serve the mission.’ At Washington think tank events, I’ve seen them repeatedly close down discussions among e.g. State Department foreign service officers. You don’t want most of the DoD types providing information to us, because it won’t be in any way balanced.

Of course, having a Pentagon propaganda unit at all is highly anti-democratic. The best defense of the truth is a free press. It should also be remembered that nowadays everything in Washington is outsourced, so government propaganda is often being turned over to Booz Allen or the American Enterprise Institute, which have a rightwing bias.
http://www.juancole.com/2012/05/congress-wants-the-department-of-defense-to-propagandize-americans.html

christx30

(6,241 posts)
8. My concern is the article.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 02:45 PM
Jul 2016

Did two men get arrested in Belgium for trying to destroy stuff and murder people? If it actually happened, and multiple sources are reporting it, does it matter who those sources are?

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
9. I have made the same argument myself about other sources
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 02:52 PM
Jul 2016

but apparently sources do matter, regardless of how correct a given article is.

Detailing the true nature of Radio Free Europe as a state funded propaganda source therefore is apropos to its value as a news source.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
10. So any comment on the fact that 2 more men have
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 09:26 PM
Jul 2016

once again planned to murder 10 or more perfect strangers? Especially in the wake of the subway bombings in April? Or other attacks across France and Germany?

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
13. Please, after you.
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 06:32 AM
Jul 2016

Since you have stated you are interested in the article not the source, please take the time to comment on those questions you just asked first, so far you have only discussed me commenting on the source.

So, please, after you. I will gladly comment afterwards.

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